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[Koha]

Yeah, it sucks that almost in every Naruto vs Sasuke battle, kishi has to nerf the more stronger character.

Naruto would have beaten Sasuke those last 3-4 times if kishi hadn't nerfed him.

Nerf??? When was Naruto actually stronger? Lmaoo as I remembered 1-Tailed = CM. Learning Rasengan alone against someone with Lee's speed at the time? Who didn't stand a chance at ALL until Kurama took control....


Alrighty then.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Nerf??? When was Naruto actually stronger? Lmaoo as I remembered 1-Tailed = CM. Learning Rasengan alone against someone with Lee's speed at the time? Who didn't stand a chance at ALL until Kurama took control....


Alrighty then.

VoTe Battle : Naruto could have summoned bunta to solo sasuke neg diff or go 4 tails mode and wreck him, plot prevented it.
Part 2 beginning shippuden fight : Naruto wasn't even trying to fight back
Kage summit battle : Naruto could have entered Sage mode and wrecked sasuke, plot prevented.
Current Battle : Naruto is holding back, even with Sasuke's new susano'o i don't think he needs to get serious.
Even with Lee's speed, Sasuke still had to enter CM to fight against Naruto, in the VoTe battle, Sasuke entered CM before naruto entered 1 tail.
Plus, Naruto defeated Neji whom was said to be stronger than lee.

Naruto simply lacks the intelligence to use his powers as proficiently as Sasuke does.

He can't help that he's a retard. :/

More like Kishi doesn't allow him to solo sauce because he likes to fap to sauce aswell. Kinda sad that he made Naruto the main antagonist and yet he made Naruto lose to someone who he could've killed neg diff.

 

[Gagster]

Naruto simply lacks the intelligence to use his powers as proficiently as Sasuke does.

He can't help that he's a retard. :/


Newsflash, retard: Naruto's main source of power is the biju, unlike Hashirama; always has been, always will be. Yet, when Sasuke uses the biju's power, you all get salty and try to call him weak.

Typical, broken, Narutard logic, I suppose... calling their own fav a fodder, by virtue. l0l

Lel, you better take it easy before you prostate explodes again.

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[Vapid]

Lel, you better take it easy before you prostate explodes again.

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That cool and all, but you still indirectly called Naruto a fodder (which is true, so props to you).

More like Kishi doesn't allow him to solo sauce because he likes to fap to sauce aswell. Kinda sad that he made Naruto the main antagonist and yet he made Naruto lose to someone who he could've killed neg diff.

No, Naruto simply isn't on Sasuke's level.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Lel, you better take it easy before you prostate explodes again.

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Lmfaaoooo, i...cant...even....+rep

No, Naruto simply isn't on Sasuke's level.

Sad truth is, he is above Sasuke's level.

 

[Koha]

VoTe Battle : Naruto could have summoned bunta to solo sasuke neg diff or go 4 tails mode and wreck him, plot prevented it.
Part 2 beginning shippuden fight : Naruto wasn't even trying to fight back
Kage summit battle : Naruto could have entered Sage mode and wrecked sasuke, plot prevented.
Current Battle : Naruto is holding back, even with Sasuke's new susano'o i don't think he needs to get serious.
Even with Lee's speed, Sasuke still had to enter CM to fight against Naruto, in the VoTe battle, Sasuke entered CM before naruto entered 1 tail.
Plus, Naruto defeated Neji whom was said to be stronger than lee.



More like Kishi doesn't allow him to solo sauce because he likes to fap to sauce aswell. Kinda sad that he made Naruto the main antagonist and yet he made Naruto lose to someone who he could've killed neg diff.

So, for one in a battle of fate between two best friends, you honestly think Naruto would even THINK to summon Gamabunta? Or that Bunta would even comply with Naruto at that point to attack another kid? ... Good luck on that fanfic.

That battle, Sasuke GREW leagues above Naruto at that point, & I'll give it to Naruto, he was too shellshocked to even react. His infatuation literally would've gotten him killed. That's no one's fault but his own, Orochimaru allowed that story to continue otherwise, yeah, Team 7 would've gotten hit by Kirin.

Sooooo, you're crediting Sasuke a lot here.. It takes SM Naruto to defeat a blind Sasuke?

Sasuke entered CM mode to show Naruto that he was serious about his quest for power, Sasuke throughout the entire first half of that battle literally destroyed Naruto, if Sasuke stayed on his resolve to kill him like he could've with that Chidori before Kurama's Chakra took over, he'd already be dead.

In most scenarios, before Naruto uses these God level techniques, he already should be dead beforehand.


Edit: Currently, Naruto and Sasuke both aren't pushing their limits.... Naruto's being forced to accumulate more Nature Energy than normal, & Sasuke's siphoning the Bijuu's power... Pretty even turnout at this moment.

 

[Vapid]

Sad truth is, he is above Sasuke's level.

Sorry to break it to you, but he never has been and never will be on Sasuke's level.

 

[UzumakiWade]

So, for one in a battle of fate between two best friends, you honestly think Naruto would even THINK to summon Gamabunta? Or that Bunta would even comply with Naruto at that point to attack another kid? ... Good luck on that fanfic.

I don't see why not? Summonings help their summoners during battles, you fail to give me an actual logical counter.

That battle, Sasuke GREW leagues above Naruto at that point, & I'll give it to Naruto, he was too shellshocked to even react. His infatuation literally would've gotten him killed. That's no one's fault but his own, Orochimaru allowed that story to continue otherwise, yeah, Team 7 would've gotten hit by Kirin.

Sasuke wasnt leagues above, we never knew if they were on par or not because Naruto never tries when fighting sasuke. Kirin requires prep time and it has to be raining so that options out. If Naruto was actually trying, Sasuke would have been back in konoha by now.

Sooooo, you're crediting Sasuke a lot here.. It takes SM Naruto to defeat a blind Sasuke?

Sasuke entered CM mode to show Naruto that he was serious about his quest for power, Sasuke throughout the entire first half of that battle literally destroyed Naruto, if Sasuke stayed on his resolve to kill him like he could've with that Chidori before Kurama's Chakra took over, he'd already be dead.

In most scenarios, before Naruto uses these God level techniques, he already should be dead beforehand.

And if Naruto was actually trying, Sasuke would be bloodied and bruised and brought back to konoha ever since part 1, plus MS Sasuke wasn't blind, he was just starting to loose his eyesight because of his overuse of MS. A Perfectly fine MS Sasuke vs an SM Naruto would still end with Naruto on top.

You overrate Sasuke, almost every person he faced could have killed him, including naruto. Especially Naruto as a matter of fact.

Sorry to break it to you, but he never has been and never will be on Sasuke's level.

And im sorry to break this to you too but, he was on Sasuke's level ever since he learned Rasengan.

 

[Vapid]

And im sorry to break this to you too but, he was on Sasuke's level ever since he learned Rasengan.

You mean Naruto and his biju buddy Kurama together were on Sasuke's level.

Naruto alone has and will never be on Sasuke's level.

 

[UzumakiWade]

You mean Naruto and his biju buddy Kurama together were on Sasuke's level.

Naruto alone has and will never be on Sasuke's level.

and Sasuke alone without cm, itachis eyes or rikkudou power would never be on Naruto without bijuu level.

 

[Sharingan King]

Nardo fappers always say that Nardo could have summon Gamabunta at the VOTE.

Well, Sasuke could have chidori'd Naruto through the head/heart instead of punching him up at the beginning of the fight. He had many opportunities to kill Naruto, he just didn't take it.

Nardo fappers should thank Godsuke for sparring the life of Fodderuto.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Nardo fappers always say that Nardo could have summon Gamabunta at the VOTE.

Well, Sasuke could have chidori'd Naruto through the head/heart instead of punching him up at the beginning of the fight. He had many opportunities to kill Naruto, he just didn't take it.

Nardo fappers should thank Godsuke for sparring the life of Fodderuto.

and saucegay fappers should thank Lawd Naruto for sparring Fodderuke's life by not going into 3-4 tails and wrecking the shit outta him.

 

[Koha]

I don't see why not? Summonings help their summoners during battles, you fail to give me an actual logical counter.



Sasuke wasnt leagues above, we never knew if they were on par or not because Naruto never tries when fighting sasuke. Kirin requires prep time and it has to be raining so that options out. If Naruto was actually trying, Sasuke would have been back in konoha by now.



And if Naruto was actually trying, Sasuke would be bloodied and bruised and brought back to konoha ever since part 1, plus MS Sasuke wasn't blind, he was just starting to loose his eyesight because of his overuse of MS. A Perfectly fine MS Sasuke vs an SM Naruto would still end with Naruto on top.

You overrate Sasuke, almost every person he faced could have killed him, including naruto. Especially Naruto as a matter of fact.



And im sorry to break this to you too but, he was on Sasuke's level ever since he learned Rasengan.

Bunta was a special case, he only helped Naruto when HE deemed it to be important enough to him, Naruto is his servant.. not the other way around. Naruto's qualms with Sasuke honestly would be a joke, plus, even if he did help, it'd result in death, most likely which is failure.

Well, to you this is purely speculation. The proof of the matter says that Sasuke would've killed Team 7 if Orochimaru didn't intervene.. And before the story progressed to the point where Sasuke needed prep in the beginning of Shippuden was nonexistent.... If Sasuke was going for a lower level technique, Orochimaru most likely would've allowed for him to continue. The only Jutsu he's ever used which he raised his hand up & went for higher ground was obviously Kirin.

Sasuke was already blind.. His irises faded, & he depended upon his senses for a moment rather than his sight, which is why Sakura STILL tried to get the upper hand & attack from behind. And as the story goes, MS Sasuke = SM Naruto. Each of them perfectly viable counters to each other.


And also, every person Naruto would've faced should've ended with his death.. Matter of fact, Naruto should've died the first moment he saw combat... Which Sasuke still saved him, so I don't know where you're going with that statement.... They're Shinobi, they're supposed to be able to be killed... One-sided battles are extremely rare, unless they were training sessions.

 

[Koha]

and saucegay fappers should thank Lawd Naruto for sparring Fodderuke's life by not going into 3-4 tails and wrecking the shit outta him.

Naruto didn't have that ability until after he grew a bit older.... 4-Tailed Naruto isn't even Naruto at this point, his consciousness long gone. it's just
Kurama's direct influence at this point, which is a loss, because it'd progress until Minato reseals him at 8-Tails... Which would ultimately be his downfall against Pain....


See how the story goes if you change one little instance.

 

[Vapid]

and Sasuke alone without cm, itachis eyes or rikkudou power would never be on Naruto without bijuu level.

Those are simply buffs. Naruto literally has another person helping him in every fight; he can't do anything alone.

Sasuke is at least independent and uses what's given to him on his own. Naruto always needs assistance in fights.

Like I said, Sasuke >>> Naruto.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Bunta was a special case, he only helped Naruto when HE deemed it to be important enough to him, Naruto is his servant.. not the other way around. Naruto's qualms with Sasuke honestly would be a joke, plus, even if he did help, it'd result in death, most likely which is failure.

Kishi only implemented that part where Bunta refused to help him back in part 1 for character development and comic relief probably, plus this is wasn't just some battle between kids, Naruto could have been killed there so it was pretty serious, plus how could gamabunta die against someone as weak as part 1 Sasuke? he'd chop that fodder up into slices.

Well, to you this is purely speculation. The proof of the matter says that Sasuke would've killed Team 7 if Orochimaru didn't intervene.. And before the story progressed to the point where Sasuke needed prep in the beginning of Shippuden was nonexistent.... If Sasuke was going for a lower level technique, Orochimaru most likely would've allowed for him to continue. The only Jutsu he's ever used which he raised his hand up & went for higher ground was obviously Kirin.

Still it was stated that Kirin needed prep time and it needed to be weather, i don't care if he changed his mind it is now officially manga facts since its in the manga. Plus sometimes Sasuke raises his hand when he makes a Chidori.

Sasuke was already blind.. His irises faded, & he depended upon his senses for a moment rather than his sight, which is why Sakura STILL tried to get the upper hand & attack from behind. And as the story goes, MS Sasuke = SM Naruto. Each of them perfectly viable counters to each other.

Your following too closely to the plot featwise, SM Naruto could beat MS Sasuke. Zetsu himself told Sasuke and Obito that Naruto might have even been stronger than Sasuke after he defeated pain(will show you the scan if needed).

And also, every person Naruto would've faced should've ended with his death.. Matter of fact, Naruto should've died the first moment he saw combat... Which Sasuke still saved him, so I don't know where you're going with that statement.... They're Shinobi, they're supposed to be able to be killed... One-sided battles are extremely rare, unless they were training sessions.

Same can be said for Sasuke, without Naruto, Sasuke would have died ever since the beginning. So technically Naruto also has been saving sasuke's ass ever since the manga started.

Those are simply buffs. Naruto literally has another person helping him in every fight; he can't do anything alone.

Sasuke is at least independent and uses what's given to him on his own. Naruto always needs assistance in fights.

Like I said, Sasuke >>> Naruto.

Buffs? More like free power-ups that Sasuke would have died if he didn't have them, Sasuke is as dependent on others are Naruto.

And like i said, Naruto >>>> Sasuke.

Naruto didn't have that ability until after he grew a bit older.... 4-Tailed Naruto isn't even Naruto at this point, his consciousness long gone. it's just Kurama's direct influence at this point, which is a loss, because it'd progress until Minato reseals him at 8-Tails... Which would ultimately be his downfall against Pain.... See how the story goes if you change one little instance.

No, when he was training with jiraiya he went 4 tails mode, either way i also said even 3 tails naruto could have won that fight.

 

[Koha]

Kishi only implemented that part where Bunta refused to help him back in part 1 for character development and comic relief probably, plus this is wasn't just some battle between kids, Naruto could have been killed there so it was pretty serious, plus how could gamabunta die against someone as weak as part 1 Sasuke? he'd chop that fodder up into slices.



Still it was stated that Kirin needed prep time and it needed to be weather, i don't care if he changed his mind it is now officially manga facts since its in the manga. Plus sometimes Sasuke raises his hand when he makes a Chidori.



Your following too closely to the plot featwise, SM Naruto could beat MS Sasuke. Zetsu himself told Sasuke and Obito that Naruto might have even been stronger than Sasuke after he defeated pain(will show you the scan if needed).




Same can be said for Sasuke, without Naruto, Sasuke would have died ever since the beginning. So technically Naruto also has been saving sasuke's ass ever since the manga started.



Buffs? More like free power-ups that Sasuke would have died if he didn't have them, Sasuke is as dependent on others are Naruto.

And like i said, Naruto >>>> Sasuke.



No, when he was training with jiraiya he went 4 tails mode, either way i also said even 3 tails naruto could have won that fight.

It was still canonical, Bunta is defiant to Naruto & helps when the moment fits... It's still two 13 year old kids fighting to kill each other, which Bunta would've most likely not intervened, if it took an entire Konoha destruction for him to be totally willing to help. And I was speaking of Sasuke getting killed, not Gamabunta bro.

It wasn't manga fact in the beginning.. Sasuke still had full intent to use it, and Orochimaru stopped him. "No need to use THAT Jutsu." remember those words from him... Chidori wasn't a factor at that moment. He had full on intent to destroying Team 7 along with that area. There wouldn't be any need for him to move to higher ground if he was just using a Chidori.

I'm supposed to follow the plot, that's the entire story after all. No matter what power differences each other had, it would've been able to be totally rectified as such where both characters wouldn't have an advantage, Zetsu said Naruto was possibly stronger, & Naruto himself has also said he couldn't defeat Sasuke at that moment.

Hmm.. I'd say Sasuke throughout Pt 1 saved Naruto a lot more, whereas Naruto saving Sasuke didn't happen until late in the Chunin exams against Orochimaru of all people. Sasuke would've died saving Naruto against Haku, Sasuke would've died protecting both Naruto and Sakura against the Mist brothers, Orochimaru obviously didn't have any killing intent throughout the Forest of Death or Team 7 would've BEEN dead.

 

[UzumakiWade]

It was still canonical, Bunta is defiant to Naruto & helps when the moment fits... It's still two 13 year old kids fighting to kill each other, which Bunta would've most likely not intervened, if it took an entire Konoha destruction for him to be totally willing to help. And I was speaking of Sasuke getting killed, not Gamabunta bro.

Right but this is all speculation, we can't be sure if he will help or not because naruto has only summoned him twice so we'll just agree that it is unknown or just agree to disagree. But im just saying that if Gamabunta was helping Naruto, Sasuke would be back in Konoha by now. Gamabunta wouldn't need to kill him necessarily.

It wasn't manga fact in the beginning.. Sasuke still had full intent to use it, and Orochimaru stopped him. "No need to use THAT Jutsu." remember those words from him... Chidori wasn't a factor at that moment. He had full on intent to destroying Team 7 along with that area. There wouldn't be any need for him to move to higher ground if he was just using a Chidori.

Orochimaru also said that that jutsu wouldn't work or something like that i can't remember, but either way its a manga fact now so therefore the part before is just considered as a plot hole. Either way the kirin wouldn't have worked because it requires prep time and the moment they saw Sasuke preparing something they obviously would have dodged.

I'm supposed to follow the plot, that's the entire story after all. No matter what power differences each other had, it would've been able to be totally rectified as such where both characters wouldn't have an advantage, Zetsu said Naruto was possibly stronger, & Naruto himself has also said he couldn't defeat Sasuke at that moment.

But Naruto didn't see Sasuke's full ability as in his ms techniques. Zetsu watched both Sasuke in MS and Naruto in SM and still said Naruto was possibly stronger.

Hmm.. I'd say Sasuke throughout Pt 1 saved Naruto a lot more, whereas Naruto saving Sasuke didn't happen until late in the Chunin exams against Orochimaru of all people. Sasuke would've died saving Naruto against Haku, Sasuke would've died protecting both Naruto and Sakura against the Mist brothers, Orochimaru obviously didn't have any killing intent throughout the Forest of Death or Team 7 would've BEEN dead.

Nope, its obvious Naruto saved Sasuke way more times, he protected Sasuke from that snake, he even defended Sasuke when he was knocked out by going into 1 tails mode and kicking the sh*t out of haku. Also, i don't think Naruto would have died against the mist bros because Kakashi was there too. There was also the fact that Sasuke would have died against the raging gaara if Naruto hadn't intervened. Overall Naruto has saved Sasuke a couple more times than Sasuke saved him.

 

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Visual prowess > Tailed beasts

Body of the sage = Visual prowess of the sage .​

 

[Xāvî1]

Is that why Sasuke and Madara all relied on Biju to try and defeat Naruto/Hashirama?

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