Explanation: Sasuke had an easy life and he took way too many shortcuts!

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All his huge power ups where handed too him by other people, he didn't really have to work hard to obtain them.
For example:

-Orochimaru gave him curse mark, without it he would be too weak to compete against Naruto in the valley of the end.

-Itachi sacrificed his life so that Sasuke could unlock his Mangyeko Sharingan. Itachi tried to play the villain just to give his brother the gift of power. Itachi also removed the curse mark for him so that Orochimaru won't be able to take over his body.

-Tobi implanted Itachi's eyes to Sasuke so that he won't turn blind and unlock a new powerup--EMS. All Sasuke did was lay in the operating table, while receiving this huge-ass powerup.

Unlike Naruto who has to go thru life threatening training like loosing his hands when he was learning Rasenshuriken, Sage mode with the risk of him turning to a stone statue, and taming Kurama with the risk of loosing his mind to the tailed beast, Sasuke had it pretty easy in life.
Yeah. Sasuke is a spoiled brat.

Sasuke had an easy life...

Me: hmmm...*re-checks manga* ah yes...whole clan genocides before his eyes.... By his brother... Genjutsud to remember parent's deaths...kill brother... Find out he's forced to do it by some other guy....



Yes, his life was so easy.



My bad humor aside, Sasuke didn't have it easy. He trained hard, but gained skills more quickly than others. His curse mark and sharingan give/gave him an extreme edge; however, if he makes the talent to act upon it....this is useless.


To get the MS he had to face his brother...who wasn't a pushover, and was still trying to a degree even if the kill wasn't his goal.

To get EMS he had to lose his vision storming the Kage Summit..... A dumb plan, but hey Sasuke has feelings.


Sure his eye advancement feels cheap, but it isn't like he did nothing hard before upgrading.
you should recheck the manga even more..

Naruto never knew his parents, nor his clan, became a Jinchuriki, shunned by the whole village, and is constantly ignored by the girl he likes.

Sasuke at least had his parents before they died, he never experienced what it feels like having a Bijuu inside of him, he was a popular brat in the village, liked by almost all the girls at his age..
 
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(Facepalms),Sasuke had his entire family killed by his own brother and was forced to relive it twice and you say he had a easy life?Then he finds out his brother was ordered to kill his clan by the village he used to live in and you still think he had it easy?
 

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Sasuke had his whole family killed.

Everything he got was a trade-off.

Trained for Chidori and it's variants
Training is cited as his HOBBY.
Trained to master the Taijutsu and speed he copied from Lee
Trained to control his CM, which would have killed him if not for his willpower.
Had to go through the suffering of losing his family and living in loneliness as well as torture from Itachi to get MS.
EMS is free, I'll give you that.

Now go back to Hollywood ***** Tobirama.
Yes he trained after he was given those powers. He didn't train to obtain them......
Also his sharingan mostly gave the shortcut as to how he can perfectly copy a certain technique like chidori, Lion barrage, elemental manipulations, etc...
 

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Yes he trained after he was given those powers. He didn't train to obtain them......
Also his sharingan mostly gave the shortcut as to how he can perfectly copy a certain technique like chidori, Lion barrage, elemental manipulations, etc...
You can say the same thing for Naruto,without his massive chakra reserves he could'nt have learned Sage Mode,without the Kyuubi's help he would be way weaker than he is now.Point is Naruto had some boosties that helped him just as much as Sasuke.
 

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You can say the same thing for Naruto,without his massive chakra reserves he could'nt have learned Sage Mode,without the Kyuubi's help he would be way weaker than he is now.Point is Naruto had some boosties that helped him just as much as Sasuke.
Kyubi and Uzumaki chakra was given to him right after birth, just like the Sharingan to the Uchiha eyes. Since these are something both Naruto and Sasuke didn't ask for, they were pretty much born with it.
Anything that comes after that was all Naruto training.

While the things on this list was handed to Sasuke while he's already a grown man, he should have been the one to snatch these powers by his own two hands.
 

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Yes he trained after he was given those powers. He didn't train to obtain them......
Also his sharingan mostly gave the shortcut as to how he can perfectly copy a certain technique like chidori, Lion barrage, elemental manipulations, etc...
By that stupid logic, Naruto also took a shortcut. Because he can use his massive amounts of chakra to shorten training time by using clones.
Also, you do realize Sasuke trained for a month to get his speed up to levels where he could use the Chidori. Even then he just knows of small bit of Lee's taijutsu. He is also shown to slowly learn Susanno. He slowly learned how to manipulate the black flames first he extinguished them and then used them as shield. He was handed the capability to use those. He mastered them on his own.
 

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By that stupid logic, Naruto also took a shortcut. Because he can use his massive amounts of chakra to shorten training time by using clones.
Also, you do realize Sasuke trained for a month to get his speed up to levels where he could use the Chidori. Even then he just knows of small bit of Lee's taijutsu. He is also shown to slowly learn Susanno. He slowly learned how to manipulate the black flames first he extinguished them and then used them as shield. He was handed the capability to use those. He mastered them on his own.
Even then Naruto obtained everything on his own powers, endurance, might, etc.
Sasuke needed an outside party to give him powerup first.
I'm pretty sure the rest of the training for Sasuke would be pretty straightforward henceforth.
 

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Kyubi and Uzumaki chakra was given to him right after birth, just like the Sharingan to the Uchiha eyes. Since these are something both Naruto and Sasuke didn't ask for, they were pretty much born with it.
Anything that comes after that was all Naruto training.

While the things on this list was handed to Sasuke while he's already a grown man, he should have been the one to snatch these powers by his own two hands.
Here's a list of techniques Sasuke learned by himself:Enton Kagusutchi,Chidori Senbon,Chidori Sharp Spear,Chidori Stream,and Kirin.Sasuke created all these by training and fighting in real life battles.
 
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Yeah. Sasuke is a spoiled brat.



you should recheck the manga even more..

Naruto never knew his parents, nor his clan, became a Jinchuriki, shunned by the whole village, and is constantly ignored by the girl he likes.

Sasuke at least had his parents before they died, he never experienced what it feels like having a Bijuu inside of him, he was a popular brat in the village, liked by almost all the girls at his age..
Actually Tsunade, Naruto himself said he only knew Sasuke's suffering after Jiriaya died. He suffered like Sasuke because he had those bonds. Naruto suffered but not as much as Sasuke in his childhood because he lacked bonds. Naruto said that himself.
You do realize why Sasuke became a loner right? First, after having lost so many bonds, he didn't want to have them again for fear of losing the bonds. Second, Itachi told him to kill his best friend. Grief-stricken Sasuke refused to do this by not allowing himself to have a best friend. That's why he refused to acknowledge his popularity. edit: thus bringing up his popularity is a mute point because he was alone like Naruto. The difference is he choose that path, while Naruto had it forced upon him.
 
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Yeah. Sasuke is a spoiled brat.



you should recheck the manga even more..

Naruto never knew his parents, nor his clan, became a Jinchuriki, shunned by the whole village, and is constantly ignored by the girl he likes.

Sasuke at least had his parents before they died, he never experienced what it feels like having a Bijuu inside of him, he was a popular brat in the village, liked by almost all the girls at his age..
My apologies I was searching Sasuke Only ;)!


Or you could even think of Hinata and Gaara who HAD parents (at least father), but the people who were there and should love them treated them like expendable trash who's lives did not matter (at least during Part I).
 

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Even then Naruto obtained everything on his own powers, endurance, might, etc.
Sasuke needed an outside party to give him powerup first.
I'm pretty sure the rest of the training for Sasuke would be pretty straightforward henceforth.
Sure, he was given EMS and CM--he later trained to master them
Naruto trained to get SM and KM and BM--all of these are from outside sources since he wasn't born with them,
both were given powers that they were worked to master.
 

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Sure, he was given EMS and CM--he later trained to master them
Naruto trained to get SM and KM and BM--all of these are from outside sources since he wasn't born with them,
both were given powers that they were worked to master.
Agreed.Both Sasuke and Naruto had shortcuts but they each worked for what they had.
 

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Even then Naruto obtained everything on his own powers, endurance, might, etc.
Sasuke needed an outside party to give him powerup first.
I'm pretty sure the rest of the training for Sasuke would be pretty straightforward henceforth.
kurama is an outside party, without his chakra naruto would be dead
minato is an outside party without his chakra naruto would be dead
kushina is an outside party without her chakra naruto would be dead
 

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You can say the same thing for Naruto,without his massive chakra reserves he could'nt have learned Sage Mode,without the Kyuubi's help he would be way weaker than he is now.Point is Naruto had some boosties that helped him just as much as Sasuke.
wrong without the kyuubis yan chakra ****ing with narutos, he would of been able to master all ninjutsu easily. don't forget hes from the strongest of all clans.

everything said in this thread is true. he did train with orochimaru for 2 and a half years and he was off screen a lot so i couldn't see kishi making sasuke this powerful any other way.
 

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Lmao next thread you make is gonna be about a kid witha bad kidney & how his kidney transplant is cheap and handed to him

So Ig sasuke should be blind!
Ig even tho the data books clearly states training is his hobby & he is off screen alot that means nothing according to u he's sitting round doing nothing (next u gonna say he's starving because he is never seen eating)
Ig when he told taka he wanted to test something out he wasn't referring to sasunoo
Ig real life or death fights are a bad place to use things you've used in other fights

Dumb lame thread
 

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Don't be mad, you know my arguments are always true, hence irrefutable! :cool: :whip:
oh its not like naruto had the strongest jubbi ever besides 10 tails the kurama or anything. its not like he basically had immense chakra reserves and a backup plan anytimes a threat faces him or anything. I would go as far to say that Naruto wouldn't handle neji without the kyubbi from the start even if he got sage mode.
 

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My apologies I was searching Sasuke Only ;)!


Or you could even think of Hinata and Gaara who HAD parents (at least father), but the people who were there and should love them treated them like expendable trash who's lives did not matter (at least during Part I).
you don't have to apologize ;) yeah Hinata's and Gaara's lives are also hard.

Actually Tsunade, Naruto himself said he only knew Sasuke's suffering after Jiriaya died. He suffered like Sasuke because he had those bonds. Naruto suffered but not as much as Sasuke in his childhood because he lacked bonds. Naruto said that himself.
You do realize why Sasuke became a loner right? First, after having lost so many bonds, he didn't want to have them again for fear of losing the bonds. Second, Itachi told him to kill his best friend. Grief-stricken Sasuke refused to do this by not allowing himself to have a best friend. That's why he refused to acknowledge his popularity. edit: thus bringing up his popularity is a mute point because he was alone like Naruto. The difference is he choose that path, while Naruto had it forced upon him.
that makes Naruto's life harder, maybe Naruto had suffered as much as Sasuke but Sasuke never felt how it was to be hated by the whole village. What I'm saying is that Sasuke at least had what he had, Naruto never had anything that Sasuke had, and Sasuke was acknowledged by the village, while Naruto was hated by everyone. Sasuke has the chance to choose his path but as you said, Naruto had it forced upon him
 
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