Explain to me why Hawkeyes is better then Kuma
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I actually don't believe it has ever been stated when it was that the "Shanks vs Mihawk" rivalry started thus your assumption is wrong and out of place.
Nevertheless, I will agree kuma is other-worldly powerful however we have no equal grounds to discuss both characters. I do believe Mihawk may be a more cunning individual, given that he's quite the observant opponent and able to make deductions out of plain and dull reactions. Until we have not seen more of Mihawk ( which we shall see, considering he's possibly one of the strongest characters introduced ), we cannot have a defined winner but I will tell you this; Mihawk went ahead and entered an island knowing a Yonkou and his crew were there, ready to fight him if he made one small offense yet the guy stood there completely and utterly fearlessly and full of confidence. There has to be a reason for that.
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aashish1996
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let's just get to the point guys!!!
Boa, Are you a girl or a boy cause you also have the same person in OPB and it's driving me nuts?!!!
Boa, Are you a girl or a boy cause you also have the same person in OPB and it's driving me nuts?!!!
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There's a reason why Kuma is no longer in existence (PX-0 =\= Kuma) while Mihawk was chosen to train Zoro during the time skip. As of now Mihawk is Zoro's bar just as Shanks is Luffy's. Zoro's goal is to one day be that strong.
It's a given that the longer a story goes on the stronger characters become. Kuma is gone, his level of power was already reached in the story, and now it's been surpassed. Hawkeyes is still an integral part of the story who's major battle is yet to have happened. So based on this and the reputations of each character it's implied that Mihawk is stronger than Kuma.
It's a given that the longer a story goes on the stronger characters become. Kuma is gone, his level of power was already reached in the story, and now it's been surpassed. Hawkeyes is still an integral part of the story who's major battle is yet to have happened. So based on this and the reputations of each character it's implied that Mihawk is stronger than Kuma.
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lets settle this, ITS OBVIOUS SHANKS IS STRONGER than KUMA, and Hawkeye fought evenly with Shanks in his youth, ON TOP of that, whenever he does something, NEARLY EVERYONE looks at him which means they acknowledge his strength. And what was posted by others
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I defend Mihawk since general opinion dictates, even IN-VERSE manga information dictates that he's at least on Shanks' general level.
I don't recall that statement, but if that's true, then it's just FEARSOME. Not STRONGER.
Using the anime is faulty since if that's the case then every attack is slower than heck, why? They freakin' call out their attacks! According to your logic, Naruto should be slower than Luffy since Luffy says "Gomu Gomu no Jet Gatling" while Naruto only says "Rasenshuriken." Bad logic.
You don't think Mihawk can match Kuma's speed. I've provided different reasons, but you wave them away like smoke.
Injured Zoro landed Shishi Sonson on Kuma. Kuma has shown no durability stronger than an ordinary Pacifista. Mihawk is stronger than Post-Skip Zoro by a margin. What does that tell you? Healthy Mihawk should land an attack on a fresh Kuma with BRAINS, and with that casual slash that split a frozen tsunami it's clear who wins the fight.
I've given solid proof so many times. This guy's just got a head as hard as coconut. In fantasy matches EVERYTHING is speculation. Lurk more on battle forums before diving in something like this.
Keep guessing.
this, and even if you think that these are speculations , you still haven't given us any of those speculations that prove us wrong...i think you are trolling...I defend Mihawk since general opinion dictates, even IN-VERSE manga information dictates that he's at least on Shanks' general level.
I don't recall that statement, but if that's true, then it's just FEARSOME. Not STRONGER.
Using the anime is faulty since if that's the case then every attack is slower than heck, why? They freakin' call out their attacks! According to your logic, Naruto should be slower than Luffy since Luffy says "Gomu Gomu no Jet Gatling" while Naruto only says "Rasenshuriken." Bad logic.
You don't think Mihawk can match Kuma's speed. I've provided different reasons, but you wave them away like smoke.
Injured Zoro landed Shishi Sonson on Kuma. Kuma has shown no durability stronger than an ordinary Pacifista. Mihawk is stronger than Post-Skip Zoro by a margin. What does that tell you? Healthy Mihawk should land an attack on a fresh Kuma with BRAINS, and with that casual slash that split a frozen tsunami it's clear who wins the fight.
I've given solid proof so many times. This guy's just got a head as hard as coconut. In fantasy matches EVERYTHING is speculation. Lurk more on battle forums before diving in something like this.
Keep guessing.
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Im trolling but im still defending him. U FAIL!. I will no longer be replying to you
back to Boa. You said i weave your things aside. Well. Explain to me how/when Zoro was fast. And i understand Zoro landed a slash On Kuma. That dosent make Hawkeyes able to do more. maybe the same. Just Cause Sanji is stronger then usopp dont mean he will get more hits on Luffy then usopp. Also i got by the anime because its in motion. nobody knows how fast somebody is in a anime since its one drawing after another. U_U
back to Boa. You said i weave your things aside. Well. Explain to me how/when Zoro was fast. And i understand Zoro landed a slash On Kuma. That dosent make Hawkeyes able to do more. maybe the same. Just Cause Sanji is stronger then usopp dont mean he will get more hits on Luffy then usopp. Also i got by the anime because its in motion. nobody knows how fast somebody is in a anime since its one drawing after another. U_U
That's the point Boa is trying to make. If an injured Zoro could land such a big cut, explain to me how you can say Kuma is fast whatsoever ? We're talking about a completely and utterly exhausted individual who had just faced another warlord and was now pushing his body just to move. YET he still managed to hurt Kuma. That being said, kuma was not fast enough to defend from Zoro's weak move, thus he wouldn't be able to defend from a healthy Zoro's attack hence why Mihawk would prove to be the winner since he is even stronger than Zoro.
I don't think Mihawk is faster than Kuma. If I am not mistaken, Kuma uses his paw paw fruit on himself to wrap from place to place. And another point (again if I am not mistaken), Zoro hitting Kuma was when Kuma destroyed everything and about to take Luffy so his guard was down.
No one can say with absolute certainty that Mihawk is stronger than Kuma.
No one can say with absolute certainty that Mihawk is stronger than Kuma.
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i didnt see that part until i rewatched it
and i meant to say. can some1 explain to me When Hawkeyes was fast
i didnt see that part until i rewatched it
and i meant to say. can some1 explain to me When Hawkeyes was fast
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and buggy too..U_U
this all trouble is here just because of these:
1)kuma ability to repell anything,which creates confusion/doubts that maybe he can repell mihawks slash too..
2)instant teleportion technique which creates doubts who is faster,thus stronger
3)no haki feats from mihawk yet...
judging that mihawk is swordsmen,IMO he should have great CoO and CoA haki... Otherwise he wouldn't have "the world's strongest swordsman" title...
On other side kuma was known as most cruel pirate in hi prime and have one of the strongest hax df..
In my opinion, they are close , but mihawk has little edge over him...
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LMAO!!
honestly
that looked like a bunch of BS!
but i could be wrong.
That looked a little bit too exagerated
That was my 1st time watchn that whole episode. And I myself must say Zoro Is BA. But from the looks of it. Hawkeyes can not be Kuma. Im Glad they changed the voice actors and put more details into Hawkeyes.
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Fine I agree but what I bolded. I would seriously appreciate it if u stopped with the smart insults.I defend Mihawk since general opinion dictates, even IN-VERSE manga information dictates that he's at least on Shanks' general level.
I don't recall that statement, but if that's true, then it's just FEARSOME. Not STRONGER.
Using the anime is faulty since if that's the case then every attack is slower than heck, why? They freakin' call out their attacks! According to your logic, Naruto should be slower than Luffy since Luffy says "Gomu Gomu no Jet Gatling" while Naruto only says "Rasenshuriken." Bad logic.
You don't think Mihawk can match Kuma's speed. I've provided different reasons, but you wave them away like smoke.
Injured Zoro landed Shishi Sonson on Kuma. Kuma has shown no durability stronger than an ordinary Pacifista. Mihawk is stronger than Post-Skip Zoro by a margin. What does that tell you? Healthy Mihawk should land an attack on a fresh Kuma with BRAINS, and with that casual slash that split a frozen tsunami it's clear who wins the fight.
I've given solid proof so many times. This guy's just got a head as hard as coconut. In fantasy matches EVERYTHING is speculation. Lurk more on battle forums before diving in something like this.
Keep guessing.