[Discussion] Existence of a God.

[Brünhild]

@red : No one "needs" to believe in a higher in a higher power Lol No it's not a part of nature it's something that is learned not ingrained to someone's brain.

@bold : Humans choose what morality not s God. People tend to get confused by this.

@green: Care to explain that ?

You didn't get my point. Since ancient times people needed to explain the world, so they created the myths, which are more metaphorical and symbolic than anything, they weren't created to be taken literally, if you study anthropology and the ancient mythology you will get what I'm saying.

Faith, religion and morality walk together. You can take as an example all of religious people. Their mindset is based on the myths they believe.

My conception of God is the nature. The natural force that rules physics is "God" in my opinion, the natural rules are too "perfect" to come out from nowhere, it must have some intelligence behind it. To sum up my conception, I believe that "God" is the force that rules nature

 

[PlatinumTitan]

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

That just goes to say what we all already know,"You can't prove a negative." You can't prove that a god doesn't exist. Just as you can't prove a unicorn doesn't exist.
It's up to those who make these claims to present the evidence.

 

[Mypower]

Some people just have a feeling that there's something greater out there and look for the answer. While others don't feel there's more and look for the answers to prove that wrong.

Those are the steaming points when people think for themselves spiritually(past what family has shown). Then from there people find answers they can believe in.

@blue when have they found this answer ?

That's true but people don't have the right to discriminate against others because you think your belief is "right".

Discrimination will happen no matter what answer the majority comes to.
What we choose to discriminate is a choice society makes.
You don't have to listen to their discrimination if you don't want to.
It is hard to avoid at times, but if you let it bother you, you will end up looking at it and doing the exact same thing with the opposite answer as your doing now.
Is it any more reasonable to discriminate a majority view than it is a minority view?
Unfortunately, I am not a smart enough man to answer that kind of question.

Awesome statement. + rep but doesn't prove that there is a God. It just prove that it's ignorance.

God exists. How else was this world created? People are gullible in my opinion if they believe there was a huge explosion which magically created the whole universe. God created the world in six days and the seventh day he rested.

How do you know @bold.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Atheist here, I just think people should believe what they want instead forcing it down your throats.

 

[Gerkak]

Irrelevant. Prove why then.

How is that irrelevant? Ask yourself this what is the origin of everything?

 

[Luther]

@blue when have they found this answer ?

Awesome statement. + rep but doesn't prove that there is a God. It just prove that it's ignorance.




How do you know @bold.

The proof is in the bible!

 

[PlatinumTitan]

You didn't get my point. Since ancient times people needed to explain the world, so they created the myths, which are more metaphorical and symbolic than anything, they weren't created to be taken literally, if you study anthropology and the ancient mythology you will get what I'm saying.

Faith, religion and morality walk together. You can take as an example all of religious people. Their mindset is based on the myths they believe.

My conception of God is the nature. The natural force that rules physics is "God" in my opinion, the natural rules are too "perfect" to come out from nowhere, it must have some intelligence behind it. To sum up my conception, I believe that "God" is the force that rules nature

I understand what you're trying to say. You feel that because everything is so complicated...there must be something intelligence that is a part of it all right?

But a God capable of creating or even ruling over all of these complexities must be equally as complex...so what created him?

 

[Madara no Rikudou]

Humans are by nature curious similar to why your asking this question.

Questions like:
Why are we here?
What does it all mean?
Why me?


Thus faith
Faith is believing in something you can't prove.

 

[SuperJak777]

There is no divine purpose why we're here. The purpose of life is to find your own purpose. For me it's to enlighten people and look at things objectively and subjectively.

I myself couldn't personally say I would live for any purpose that involved "enlightening people" when you make it sound like "I'm right and your wrong." The very way of looking at the world that you seem to hate.

 

[Mypower]

How is that irrelevant? Ask yourself this what is the origin of everything?

I don't know no one knows.

 

[PlatinumTitan]

@blue when have they found this answer ?




The proof is in the bible!

THE BIBLE IS NOT THE EVIDENCE OF GOD. THE BIBLE IS THE CLAIM OF ONE.

 

[Gerkak]

I understand what you're trying to say. You feel that because everything is so complicated...there must be something intelligence that is a part of it all right?

But a God capable of creating or even ruling over all of these complexities must be equally as complex...so what created him?

Then what created, what created that god? You will just keep going backwards. Eventually you will have to acknowledge that there is a singular being that is the origin of everything.

 

[Mypower]

@blue when have they found this answer ?




The proof is in the bible!

The bible ? How do you know it's true ?

 

[Brünhild]

I understand what you're trying to say. You feel that because everything is so complicated...there must be something intelligence that is a part of it all right?

But a God capable of creating or even ruling over all of these complexities must be equally as complex...so what created him?

Nothing created "God". He is just the "intelligence" behind natural phenomena as I said.

 

[PlatinumTitan]

Then what created, what created that god? You will just keep going backwards. Eventually you will have to acknowledge that there is a singular being that is the origin of everything.

That's circular reasoning friend. Something must have created this singular being. Nothing can just always be. It's illogical.

 

[Mypower]

You didn't get my point. Since ancient times people needed to explain the world, so they created the myths, which are more metaphorical and symbolic than anything, they weren't created to be taken literally, if you study anthropology and the ancient mythology you will get what I'm saying.

Faith, religion and morality walk together. You can take as an example all of religious people. Their mindset is based on the myths they believe.

My conception of God is the nature. The natural force that rules physics is "God" in my opinion, the natural rules are too "perfect" to come out from nowhere, it must have some intelligence behind it. To sum up my conception, I believe that "God" is the force that rules nature

@bold that's why I said it's primitive superstition in my OP. No claims about God haven't been proven.

@green: doesn't mean you BELIEVE is true.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Atheist here, I just think people should believe what they want instead forcing it down your throats.

Like what OP is doing?

 

[Gerkak]

I don't know no one knows.

No one knows? This is the problem with today's world. Science, philosophy and logic must go hand in hand. The question I asked is logical, yet some people refuse to ponder on it for fear of the ultimate conclusion.

The universe isn't eternal, it must have had a begining, such a complex system could not have emerged by chance. It is only logical to believe a being that is superior is responsible

 

[Mypower]

I got a question for you. If I create a box. Does that mean that box has a creator? If I create the light bulb does that mean the light bulb has a creator? Then I ask you, WHO created the humans? How did humans come into existence? How did life come into existence? We just magically appeared? on a planet that was coming to the PERFECT temperature, with the PERFECT distance away from the sun, with the PERFECT atmosphere, with the PERFECT oxygen levels? Everything went PERFECTLY fine. Everything went PERFECTLY safe? Everything went PERFECTLY in sequence? with the PERFECT sync? with the PERFECT gravity of the planet? I doubt that there is anything on the physical universe that can create such existence. My question is why is it so hard to not believe in god? Look around you. Everything just miraculously came to be. Our universe, wait why talk about the universe when I can talk about the planet. Oh wait why talk about the planet when I can talk about the human body. Oh why talk about a human body when I can talk about a SINGLE CELL. ANYTHING that HUMANS have made is nothing as close to being as complex as the cell. What is science? Is it a explanations of everything based on what we can see? What we can touch? What we can Hear? What we can smell? What the 5 humans senses sense? That is what science defines. Explaining phenomenon's through the 5 human senses. But most of the stuff we have theories about are not adhering to the 5 human senses.

Heres something for people like you. God tested Humanity. How you say? In the Quran, he says Dont even try to make a human, try to REPLICATE a SINGLE CELL. We have the knowledge, but yet we cant even replicate it? We cant even create something so simple? A single cell that is the is reason why we exist. A cell that contains DNA that is more complex then anything that a human has made. That scientist did a 10 year study on it and when they thought they knew everything about the DNA, they were once again mind blown. To this day they dont know everything about the DNA. So my question to YOU is that PLEASE try to disprove the QURAN by GODS test to humans. Please try to replicate/create a single CELL.

Nice wall of text please don't write too much. I've read all of that and to answer your question it all happened on chance not because it was meant to happen. What you're saying doesn't prove a God exists.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

@blue when have they found this answer.

That's not my point, re read the post. People are looking for answers they can believe in, doesn't mean any of it is right or wrong.