[Discussion] Existence of a God.

[Multiply]

....

Ok.

If you think that evolution states that humans come from chimpanzee's you don't understand evolution. Sorry bud.

You must be registered for see images

 

[Dannie]

No, thank you, I will just remain here in cave and pray in expectation of a better life, and of course, thank God for providing me with a free wi-fe connection and bless my ever-lasting laptop battery. We'll ignore the fact that I go to University everyday, speak 4 languages, am socially, romantically, sexually an what have you-ly active, have a moderate knowledge in IT, and practice a sport, but these things are all overshadowed by the fact that I believe in God. This opinion, of course, coming from someone who amassed 12 000 posts in roughly one year of activity. But what do I know about it, I'm a retard believing in fairy tales. It's not wrong to draw spiritual power and encouragement from a "fairy tale", which actually helps in achieving a lot of things, and this is coming from a former anti-social fat turd, which I used to be, when I was an atheist. There is a direct correspondence between the time I found my belief and the time I started changing myself, so is it wrong to assume that I owe this to God ? Maybe I'm wrong, what's it to you and the rest of the butthurt atheists commenting on religion and it's drawbacks ? The point is, whether God really exists or I am simply delusional, the mere idea of God and the expectation of divine help have had a most possitive effect on my psyche, and helped me see things differently, which ultimately, led to who I am, and I am proud of who I am. Of course, I didn't blindly rely on God everytime, I am always open to idleness, and I know I have to play my part. So wether it's a lie that I keep telling myself, or it is true, it still helped, and neither you nor your army of non believers can convince me otherwise. I can't speak for the rest of the religious people, but don't go making claims about how we have no lives, because obviously, your singular image of religiousness is drawn from all those stereotypes that the media keeps feeding you.

Most of this shit wasn't even needed, but this is mainly one of the reasons why I wrote what I did.
And your screwed imagination on believing in something to make you feel better is naive and a joke.

Your feelings look to be hurt. Too bad I'm too much of an ass to not give a damn about you or your irrational way of living.

I am not very pious, I am by every standard a heavy sinner, but that doesn't mean I'm not religious. And I don't beleive in God because I'm a halfwit lacking knowledge or reason, I believe because that's what I think is right, and you should resoect that. I am merely trying to show you that religion does not necessairly hold people back, that it can have a possitive effect, and that the difference rests solely with the people, and not with what they believe. I am not trying to convince you God is real, so do no mistake this post for propaganda.

Sounds like someone got asshurt from my post.

Why should I respect someone that is speaking to me like this?

You can tell me that religion doesn't hold people back. Good job at trying to feed me a useless opinion.

Religion as a whole has caused too many turmoil and conflicts, but yes, do continue to act as if religion isn't the bad guy.

Notice that in my post I never claimed God is real, I just said that that's what I believe. So for decency's sake, it would be nice of you to stop trying to pass your conviction off as if it were a general truth. I, as Christian didn't try to instill my beliefs in you, so have some respect for people with different views.

So... you believe in something but you don't even have the knowledge to claim if it is real?

That's where you fall, and exactly my point. Trying to believe in something because it makes you feel good, when in fact you have no clue about it's existence is the same as imagining myself with a girlfriend when in fact she is not there.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

I don't know what you're trying to get at. You and I both know I did not imply that believing in a God stops a persons functionality completely. I mean it in the terms of people that sit on their asses all day and then have the nerve to pray to God for their lives to get better. Go out and make your life better. Don't wait for your God to make it good for you. Earn your keep in this world.

But that's exactly what they do.
They go out ,find what's better for them and find it to be the answers to their problems.

Not everyone thinks that way of expecting things to be given to them freely by asking God to solve a problem.
People that I know understands that we make our own choice in life which would either affect us or everyone around us.
We're not just puppets or pets depending on the someone in another dimension to just give us the bone.

 

[Dannie]

We're not just puppets

Then why do you pray to him on occasion? Why do you waste time and energy of trying to glorify him?

If you're not a puppet then why don't you go against his will? Oh, that's right. It would be a sin and therefore not in the sight of God to do that, right? He is "all fearing" afterall.

 

[ministerC4]

Then why do you pray to him on occasion? Why do you waste time and energy of trying to glorify him?

If you're not a puppet then why don't you go against his will? Oh, that's right. It would be a sin and therefore not in the sight of God to do that, right? He is "all fearing" afterall.

No, he's "all caring" you've got the wrong guy man.
God loves all his children regardless of their actions, he's the most caring being in existence.

 

[Flaw]

Most of this shit wasn't even needed, but this is mainly one of the reasons why I wrote what I did.
And your screwed imagination on believing in something to make you feel better is naive and a joke.

Your feelings look to be hurt. Too bad I'm too much of an ass to not give a damn about you or your irrational way of living.



Sounds like someone got asshurt from my post.

Why should I respect someone that is speaking to me like this?

You can tell me that religion doesn't hold people back. Good job at trying to feed me a useless opinion.

Religion as a whole has caused too many turmoil and conflicts, but yes, do continue to act as if religion isn't the bad guy.


So... you believe in something but you don't even have the knowledge to claim if it is real?

That's where you fall, and exactly my point. Trying to believe in something because it makes you feel good, when in fact you have no clue about it's existence is the same as imagining myself with a girlfriend when in fact she is not there.

If you still think religion "caused" conflicts and turmoil, rather than the people who failed to interpret it correctly and abused it for selfish reasons, then, brother, you might just be as feeble-minded as you consider us. You cannot blame a concept or an idea for causing war, especially not one that dictates a peaceful life style. Religion or not, people would still find a reason to be douchebags. Especially if, like you, they are angry teenagers with loads of time on their hands and not really anything constructive to say. It's retarded, but very fitting in your case. Why should you respect me, for speaking to you like what ? I could go on about how much of a cretin you are for literally overshadowing that wall of text I wrote with a shit argument which only says it was not needed "for reasons". It was needed because according to you, I am not "doing anything with my life". Why should you respect me ? Because I delivered a fair argument, not trying to alter your belief, but simply defending the many people that you insult with your half-assed stereotype, and because I respect(ed) you before you delivered the final proof of what an inbred, simple-minded pre-pubescent imbecile you are, and how little tolerance and understanding you are capable of. I believe in something that can never be 100% proved to be real. And so do you. Judging by how maturely you approached my post, I estimate that I could probably bring more anti-God arguments than you, even being a Christian. You simply base your lack of faith of your premature opinion that Heaven and Hell sound like a fantasy, without actually touching the true depth of spiritualism, actual philosphy or science. You think exactly like I did when I was 13. You can do no thinking of your own, yet you come and tell me that I am irrational. You're in no position to schold any one about their way of living. You need to finish at least 8 grades for me to begin to consider your advice.

 

[Red Flag X Drake]

The reason why people still believe in God is because their parents did. Simple as that

 

[Dannie]

If you still think religion "caused" conflicts and turmoil, rather than the people who failed to interpret it correctly and abused it for selfish reasons, then, brother, you might just be as feeble-minded as you consider us. You cannot blame a concept or an idea for causing war, especially not one that dictates a peaceful life style. Religion or not, people would still find a reason to be douchebags. Especially if, like you, they are angry teenagers with loads of time on their hands and not really anything constructive to say. It's retarded, but very fitting in your case. Why should you respect me, for speaking to you like what ? I could go on about how much of a cretin you are for literally overshadowing that wall of text I wrote with a shit argument which only says it was not needed "for reasons". It was needed because according to you, I am not "doing anything with my life". Why should you respect me ? Because I delivered a fair argument, not trying to alter your belief, but simply defending the many people that you insult with your half-assed stereotype, and because I respect(ed) you before you delivered the final proof of what an inbred, simple-minded pre-pubescent imbecile you are, and how little tolerance and understanding you are capable of. I believe in something that can never be 100% proved to be real. And so do you. Judging by how maturely you approached my post, I estimate that I could probably bring more anti-God arguments than you, even being a Christian. You simply base your lack of faith of your premature opinion that Heaven and Hell sound like a fantasy, without actually touching the true depth of spiritualism, actual philosphy or science. You think exactly like I did when I was 13. You can do no thinking of your own, yet you come and tell me that I am irrational. You're in no position to schold any one about their way of living. You need to finish at least 8 grades for me to begin to consider your advice.

And they say religious people are supposed to be calm and respectful beings?

lol, all I read was "how I'm asshurt at someones post so I need to rage to make them see it my way"

Go on pal. Keep it up.

 

[ministerC4]

If you still think religion "caused" conflicts and turmoil, rather than the people who failed to interpret it correctly and abused it for selfish reasons, then, brother, you might just be as feeble-minded as you consider us. You cannot blame a concept or an idea for causing war, especially not one that dictates a peaceful life style..

And there is where we stop, buddy.
Religions are constantly shown throughout history to have a tendency of trying to spread.
You claim a concept or idea can't be the cause of war, you claim that the life style is "peaceful."

Throughout various religious books it's often mentioned to spread the religion, some with force, some without.
Religions themselves pretty much don't want anything to do with the next, there's plenty of religion that take offense
in denial of their God and find it punishable.

Whatever I think you already know that.
But how come I can't blame a concept or idea for war?
An "idea" is any thought from "let's save that family" to "let's burn that family."
A concept is nothing but a bundle of ideas, I don't see how they cannot be blamed.

And how come you can claim a correct way of interpreting the book, yet the other is wrong?
Is it because said person simply holds a different opinion than you?

If I can recall correctly theists do commonly say we cannot comprehend good from bad and need God(s)
to guide us, so who's to say they're comprehending their religion wrongly based off of their "bad" actions?

 

[Dannie]

^Don't bother. I stopped caring about what that dude said the moment he claimed that religion isn't at fault.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

Then why do you pray to him on occasion? Why do you waste time and energy of trying to glorify him?

If you're not a puppet then why don't you go against his will? Oh, that's right. It would be a sin and therefore not in the sight of God to do that, right? He is "all fearing" afterall.

Funny that you assume I pray.
Though if I do pray,rarely, I just say what I'm thankful for not what I want .It only takes but a minute.

Why are you wasting time and energy on writing a post to state your opinion on where you stand?
Seem like a pointless question for you to say.

I did go against him as child.
Once I start looking into it,my own thoughts of the being developed.

Not a sin,and it's your choice.
Not all fearing.

 

[Dannie]

Funny that you assume I pray.
Though if I do pray,rarely, I just say what I'm thankful for not what I want .It only takes but a minute.

And why do you say what you are thankful for? Who are you saying it to? Yourself? Your God? Tell me.

Why are you wasting time and energy on writing a post to state your opinion on where you stand?
Seem like a pointless question for you to say.

>I am writing a post to state my opinion, and when I write my post, something actually gets across, and I know what I am doing when I write my post.

>You are praising something that you have no idea of it's existence and you might just be wasting your time on something that probably isn't even real.

My words that I type are real.
Your conviction to something you can't even see is imaginary.

That's the difference.

I did go against him as child.
Once I start looking into it,my own thoughts of the being developed.

Ok.

Not a sin,and it's your choice.
Not all fearing.

If it's your choice and it goes against the word of God then it is a sin.

 

[YowYan]

No, he's "all caring" you've got the wrong guy man.
God loves all his children regardless of their actions, he's the most caring being in existence.

So, that's why he ordered this biblical figure to set up an altar to sacrifice his son for god? As a test of obedience? Haha pft. Where do religious sheeple get the nerve to tell others what god wants, does and thinks as if they are "his" spokesmen.