[Debate] Every year we are told about the end of the world!

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Let's just hope that the world will not going to end until GoT season 8.

 

[Lightbringer]

No, i did not say to deny all science. Thanks for twisting my statement. If it's substantial information that can be seen with the naked eye, then sure, i take it into consideration...i acknowledge the truth.

But someone shows you a bunch of photoshopped pictures and make a bunch of statements, then you suddenly "up" and take what they say with a grain of salt?You really sit there and believe that EVERYTHING they say is with integrity? Remember, there's desperate people that will do anything to prove that there's extraterrestrial life out there, even willing to sugar coat and gussy up a story or image.It's plain manipulation.

You're comparing "self-explanatory", with "self-imagined". Let's not compare the two.

Never said anything about extra-terrestrial life nor did the scientists. I just said that there were planets already discovered that had similar density and atmosphere to Earth.

I'm not gonna get into the semantics here. I'll just ask you straight up; are you denying the existence of these already discovered planets?

 

[Leonard Uchiha]

Just cause someone shows you a couple of pictures, doesn't mean it's proven or a fact...can't trust everything someone says.How do you know those pictures are real?

I wouldn't take NASA with a grain of salt.Tons of self-imagined "geniuses", that expect people to believe everything they say because of everyone's preconceived idea of them.

don't fall for people's psychology. Sure, big organization, big name, lots of equipment...all the better to manipulate and try to convince you.

Bunch of sugar coated lies and photoshopped pictures just to convince you. Imagined.

Could just be a bunch propaganda.

Exactly my sentiments.

 

[Lightbringer]

Exactly my sentiments.

Weird how you were adamantly defending the bible though, but science could just be a bunch of propaganda....

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Never said anything about extra-terrestrial life nor did the scientists. I just said that there were planets already discovered that had similar density and atmosphere to Earth.

I'm not gonna get into the semantics here. I'll just ask you straight up; are you denying the existence of these already discovered planets?

No, I'm not DENYING anything. I'm just saying don't take everything they say with a grain of salt, especially with photoshopped pictures that they're trying to make look as if they can support life.

Sheesh, you sure can distort someone's words.

Also, I haven't seen any of these planets myself. So...i simply don't deny it, nor agree with it. It's of no concern.

 

[Lightbringer]

No, I'm not DENYING anything. I'm just saying don't take everything they say with a grain of salt, especially with photoshopped pictures that they're trying to make look as if they can support life.

Sheesh, you sure can distort someone's words.

How am I distorting your words? You came at me by saying that this could just be a bunch of propaganda because these are photo-shopped pictures.

I just asked you a question.

Be more clear with what you say next time if you feel as though I'm misinterpreting your words.

 

[ReBoot]

Because there's nothing on the moon.

We've managed to sent probes to Venus, a rotor to Mars, and we're planning to send the first people to colonize Mars in a few years.

Yet you're telling me we couldn't land on the moon?

Honestly, just take the time to think of how ridiculous you sound.

Is there nothing on the moon? It's strange why cosmonauts are launched into space on Russian missiles, I think you will be prompted by what NASA scientist

 

[Leonard Uchiha]

But it's not just the U.S.

U.S. is not the only country with scientists, astrologists, biologists, psychologists, etc.

Also, are you saying that it is smarter to deny science with all of its readily available data than to believe in it?

They might be in on the lie then.

Japan/China was confirmed to have contributed to some of the Space projects, and got a lot of money out of it.

If they could make some animation on low cost for a huge amount of money, then why not.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

How am I distorting your words? You came at me by saying that this could just be a bunch of propaganda because these are photo-shopped pictures.

I just asked you a question.

Be more clear with what you say next time if you feel as though I'm misinterpreting your words.

Nope, my words a clear and exact. You just ADDED things to it.

 

[Lightbringer]

They might be in on the lie then.

Japan/China was confirmed to have contributed to some of the Space projects, and got a lot of money out of it.

If they could make some animation on low cost for a huge amount of money, then why not.

These planets are light years away. We'll never be able to reach them, ever. Why would they make this up? What sort of profit could be accumulated by this?

Are you saying that science is motivated by nothing but profit?

 

[Leonard Uchiha]

Because there's nothing on the moon.

We've managed to sent probes to Venus, a rotor to Mars, and we're planning to send the first people to colonize Mars in a few years.

Yet you're telling me we couldn't land on the moon?

Honestly, just take the time to think of how ridiculous you sound.

That's where the problem is.

It starts with the pronoun you use when you talk about them.

It's not ''we'' at all when you're not virtually a part of their projects.

It could all be true, but at the same time it could not. It could be anything, but as far as their evidence goes, it holds no weight.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

These planets are light years away. We'll never be able to reach them, ever. Why would they make this up? What sort of profit could be accumulated by this?

Are you saying that science is motivated by nothing but profit?

Wow...talk about jumping to conclusions.

 

[Lightbringer]

Nope, my words a clear and exact. You just ADDED things to it.

Just cause someone shows you a couple of pictures, doesn't mean it's proven or a fact...can't trust everything someone says.How do you know those pictures are real?

I wouldn't take NASA with a grain of salt.Tons of self-imagined "geniuses", that expect people to believe everything they say because of everyone's preconceived idea of them.

don't fall for people's psychology. Sure, big organization, big name, lots of equipment...all the better to manipulate and try to convince you.

Bunch of sugar coated lies and photoshopped pictures just to convince you. Imagined.

Could just be a bunch propaganda.

But it's not just the U.S.

U.S. is not the only country with scientists, astrologists, biologists, psychologists, etc.

Also, are you saying that it is smarter to deny science with all of its readily available data than to believe in it?

How did I add to your words? I asked a question that used your logic...

 

[Lightbringer]

That's where the problem is.

It starts with the pronoun you use when you talk about them.

It's not ''we'' at all when you're not virtually a part of their projects.

It could all be true, but at the same time it could not. It could be anything, but as far as their evidence goes, it holds no weight.

You're focusing on the wrong aspect of my comment. My pronouns are irrelevant to the discussion.

You didn't even look at the evidence.... You just outright denied them.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

How did I add to your words? I asked a question that used your logic...

Just a simple FACT, for you to consider.

And yes, those are photoshopped pictures, and yes people manipulate information. Not saying that there aren't any earth like planets, though...

 

[ReBoot]

When was the last time the US sent a man into space on his own rocket and with his own engine, did I forget something?

 

[Lightbringer]

Just a simple FACT, for you to consider.

And yes, those are photoshopped pictures, and yes people manipulate information. Not saying that there aren't any earth like planets, though...

No shit, those pictures were never claimed to be real.....

Did you read the article?


A picture of Earth and artist's interpretations of several exoplanets that could be like our own. From left: artist's impressions of Kepler-22b, Kepler-69c, Kepler-452b, Kepler-62f and Kepler-186f. A picture of Earth is at far right.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

No shit, those pictures were never claimed to be real.....

So then what the f*ck are they?

A bunch of useless pics and statements.

 

[Lightbringer]

When was the last time the US sent a man into space on his own rocket and with his own engine, did I forget something?

Um, all of the time. We have an international space station....

There are currently people in space as we speak....

Are you being serious right now?

 

[Leonard Uchiha]

These planets are light years away. We'll never be able to reach them, ever. Why would they make this up? What sort of profit could be accumulated by this?

Are you saying that science is motivated by nothing but profit?

Because they told you these planets are ''light years away'' and yet want you to believe they discovered them at all.
Just think about that for a second.

It's light years away, and yet they were able to perceive it in some way.

Where's the scientific method they used, and what scientific method could detect or enable one to perceive something so distant? It's not here yet, and I don't think it's even virtually close in our time.