Every Major Uchiha has been manipulated and mentally abused throughout the series.

[To Whatever]

^Pretty much this.

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Itachi shouldn't be on the list. He knew where he was going to end up and what was going to happen in the end, he even died the way he wanted to. That's not manipulation by far. The Itachi/Shisui joke is old, discredited by what's in the manga and an interview by Kishi. And mental abuse? Itachi chose the right choice and as a result followed his own path. If you choose your own way and it happens to be a little tragic, that's not mental abuse. lol



The bold makes me wonder how low the reading comprehension on NB is. The eye Shisui gave Itachi was on cooldown. It's not possible to KA someone with an MS eye that's charging for 10 years.

Itachi did it because it was the only way. Take him off the list. Itachi was one of the few people Danzo was actually straight up with. Uchiha refused negotiation, Shisui failed to KA Fugaku and that KA one-shot was gone, there was nothing else left.

I will not be taking Itachi off the list, he was manipulated. Danzo prodded at his weakness and loyalty to his village

Off topic:
About KA: How did Shisui's KA fail on Fugaku exactly? I haven't read those chaps in so long that I got inaccuracies in my previous post.

I'm still thinking Shisui and him were lovers. They did say he killed his girlfriend at one point.

P.S. Reading comprehension and straight up forgetting certain occurrences and rectons in the story are two different things.

 

[ministerC4]

Wow ty u just soloed

She's solo Queen
Or is that taken?

 

[BLAZE]

I will not be taking Itachi off the list, he was manipulated. Danzo prodded at his weakness and loyalty to his village

Off topic:
About KA: How did Shisui's KA fail on Fugaku exactly? I haven't read those chaps in so long that I got inaccuracies in my previous post.

I'm still thinking Shisui and him were lovers. They did say he killed his girlfriend at one point.

P.S. Reading comprehension and straight up forgetting certain occurrences and rectons in the story are two different things.

Wasn't Shisui male

 

[DoubleKamui]

LMAO that first pic is epic. They all look like ****ing psychopaths.

 

[To Whatever]

Wasn't Shisui male

I know homosexuals who call their partners their "girlfriend"

 

[Rustled]

Mangafacts hurt.. :vision:

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Generally the whole Uchiha Clan were manipulated because of the fact that Black Zetsu altered the Uchiha Stone Tablet.

Even tho Itachi did things out of his own free will, I still feel he was manipulated to an extent by Danzo. Initially, Hiruzen was against the attack on the Uchihas and had not agreed to attack them yet, however, Danzo came forward with his plans to Itachi, causing Itachi to be backed into a corner.

I believe things may have been different if Itachi had voiced his concerns to Hiruzen and also informed Hiruzen about Shisuis death at the hands of Danzo.

 

[Chie]

I will not be taking Itachi off the list, he was manipulated. Danzo prodded at his weakness and loyalty to his village

Off topic:
About KA: How did Shisui's KA fail on Fugaku exactly? I haven't read those chaps in so long that I got inaccuracies in my previous post.

I'm still thinking Shisui and him were lovers. They did say he killed his girlfriend at one point.

P.S. Reading comprehension and straight up forgetting certain occurrences and rectons in the story are two different things.

Danzo did know that Itachi would accept, however, Itachi agreed that there was nothing else to do and knew the burden he'd be taking on. Hence, not manipulation.

Feel free to think that, but in this context Kishimoto probably just meant that he killed some girl he was supposed to have an arranged marriage with. Not Shisui. xD
Obito also refers to Itachi's kin like this: He smothered his emotions and killed his father, his mother, his cousins, his best friend (Shisui), and his girlfriend." If it were Shisui, Obito wouldn't have mentioned him twice. lol Feel free to believe what you want though.

I'm sorry. I took it a little too far when I mentioned reading comprehension, your's isn't bad at all.

Danzo stole the MS eye Shisui was going to KA the clan with. Then, Shisui had his other MS eye left, but it was on cooldown (so I guess that he used it prior on a mission before). Hence why he didn't attempt the KA on Fugaku again and gave it to Itachi for safe-keeping. It was pretty much useless for 10 years unless Senju DNA was available which cuts down the charge time to a few hours-something Itachi and Shisui didn't have at the time or ever obtain.

Generally the whole Uchiha Clan were manipulated because of the fact that Black Zetsu altered the Uchiha Stone Tablet.

Even tho Itachi did things out of his own free will, I still feel he was manipulated to an extent by Danzo. Initially, Hiruzen was against the attack on the Uchihas and had not agreed to attack them yet, however, Danzo came forward with his plans to Itachi, causing Itachi to be backed into a corner.

I believe things may have been different if Itachi had voiced his concerns to Hiruzen and also informed Hiruzen about Shisuis death at the hands of Danzo.

If you do things of your own free will, that's not manipulation. Because you know what you have to do regardless. A more appropriate word for this situation would be "blackmailed", if even that.

@bold-Hiruzen heard of Danzo's involvement in the massacre and he kept his position many years later regardless. If Itachi told Hiruzen, the Hokage would take Danzo aside and scold him, but it would be revealed that Itachi was the one in possession of the eye and Danzo would go after him. That wouldn't end well and in this circumstance, it was actually better that he didn't tell him. Hiruzen also knows Danzo better than Itachi knows him. They'd been friends for over 50 yrs.

 

[ministerC4]

Generally the whole Uchiha Clan were manipulated because of the fact that Black Zetsu altered the Uchiha Stone Tablet.

Even tho Itachi did things out of his own free will, I still feel he was manipulated to an extent by Danzo. Initially, Hiruzen was against the attack on the Uchihas and had not agreed to attack them yet, however, Danzo came forward with his plans to Itachi, causing Itachi to be backed into a corner.

I believe things may have been different if Itachi had voiced his concerns to Hiruzen and also informed Hiruzen about Shisuis death at the hands of Danzo.

I agree, I have nothing more to say.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

If you do things of your own free will, that's not manipulation. Because you know what you have to do regardless. A more appropriate word for this situation would be "blackmailed", if even that.

It was a form of manipulation albeit 'blackmail'. In all of his theory/plans that Danzo told Itachi, he did it with the warning that if Itachi did not comply then Sasuke would also be slaughtered in the aftermath.

At this point Hiruzen had not agreed to this; so in effect Danzo manipulated Itachi via posing a threat to the thing that was most important to Itachi, which was Sasuke.

I'm not saying that Itachi was not exceptional. Or that he was manipulated in the same degrading way that Obito was manipulated by Madara, or how Madara was manipulated by Black Zetsu.

Itachi made a decision, however the whole scenario had been orchestrated by Danzo; hence why it would be accurate to say that he manipulated this situation in order to advance the attack on the Uchiha Clan using Itachi (one of the most skilled Shinobi in Konoah) to do the deed.

 

[Chie]

It was a form of manipulation albeit 'blackmail'. In all of his theory/plans that Danzo told Itachi, he did it with the warning that if Itachi did not comply then Sasuke would also be slaughtered in the aftermath.

At this point Hiruzen had not agreed to this; so in effect Danzo manipulated Itachi via posing a threat to the thing that was the most important to Itachi, which was Sasuke.

I'm not saying that Itachi was not exceptional. Or that he was manipulated in the same degrading way that Obito was manipulated by Madara, or how Madara was manipulated by Black Zetsu.

Itachi made a decision, however the whole scenario had been orchestrated by Danzo; hence why it would be accurate to say that he manipulated this situation in order to advance the attack on the Uchiha Clan using Itachi (one of the most skilled Shinobi in Konoha) to do the deed.

I can agree with that. Well-said and +rep. U_U

 

[lucario14]

Uchiha are more often than not, more susceptible to emotional trauma because of their curse so it makes sense. However, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Look at sasuke, living and shit.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

I can agree with that. Well-said and +rep. U_U

thanks for that here's a plus rep for you. i'm glad i helped you see things from a different perspective.

 

[King Of Pop]

For sasuke,Look at the end result and the aftermath is all that matters. Oro? Sasuke got power from him and then attacked, defeated and threw him away when he was done with him. Sasuke went to him for his own gain and for a purpose. Oro wanted him as a vessel, did he suceed? No and that was due to sasuke backstabbing him, funny how you left that part out. Obito? Sasuke went to the summit to kill danzo, that was his own goal, he always told obito to his face that they were not comrades and even said he will kill him, sasuke always had his own agenda. He killed danzo, got ems from obito, then turned on him-killing his minion in white zetsu. Obito wanted to sync sasuke with the mazo, that didn't happen so he failed in the end. Itachi is the only one who sucessfully manipulated sasuke although sasuke didn't go the path he wished, the others failed.

 

[Forbidden Twilight]

Who am I to deny Mangafacts

 

[Dãrth1]

^Pretty much this.

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Itachi shouldn't be on the list. He knew where he was going to end up and what was going to happen in the end, he even died the way he wanted to. That's not manipulation by far. The Itachi/Shisui joke is old, discredited by what's in the manga and an interview by Kishi. And mental abuse? Itachi chose the right choice and as a result followed his own path. If you choose your own way and it happens to be a little tragic, that's not mental abuse. lol



The bold makes me wonder how low the reading comprehension on NB is. The eye Shisui gave Itachi was on cooldown. It's not possible to KA someone with an MS eye that's charging for 10 years.

Itachi did it because it was the only way. Take him off the list. Itachi was one of the few people Danzo was actually straight up with. Uchiha refused negotiation, Shisui failed to KA Fugaku and that KA one-shot was gone, there was nothing else left.

Danzo took Shisui's eye that was good before he could use it

 

[Behemoth55]

True. Although I think Itachi killed his girlfriend if I read the manga correctly.......

Or his boyfriend.

The raw doesn't differentiate between male and female in this context.


Hm...in this meaning everyone was a puppet too. Hashirama as well as Madara were a part of Kuro Zetsus plan, but it's up to Naruto and Sasuke to change the destiny of Uchiha and Senju/Uzumaki.

 

[Chie]

Or his boyfriend.

The raw doesn't differentiate between male and female in this context.


Hm...in this meaning everyone was a puppet too. Hashirama as well as Madara were a part of Kuro Zetsus plan, but it's up to Naruto and Sasuke to change the destiny of Uchiha and Senju/Uzumaki.

It's not possible for it to be a guy considering that in this context, it's meant to be someone he was supposed to have an arranged marriage with. So some girl that Fugaku picked out for him.

The Senju just fought with the Uchiha because the Uchiha were the one who felt compelled to fight against them due to following BZ's tablet and thought that there was no hope in the world, bar only 3 we know of-Kagami, Shisui, and Itachi.

 

[Conspirator.]

It's not possible for it to be a guy considering that in this context, it's meant to be someone he was supposed to have an arranged marriage with. So some girl that Fugaku picked out for him.

The Senju just fought with the Uchiha because the Uchiha were the one who felt compelled to fight against them due to following BZ's tablet and thought that there was no hope in the world, bar only 3 we know of-Kagami, Shisui, and Itachi.

@bold
Where was this stated in the manga?

 

[Dãrth1]

@bold
Where was this stated in the manga?

It isn't, but lol? Marry at 13 years?