Evening Elephant Databook entry ("Unstoppable Speed")

[KingHashirama]

You're an idiot and a half. Bee stayed out of the fight? Who was it that saved Ay from Minato then? He went after Bee because he was saving Ay's ass and was a bigger threat. He didnt do it to make "Ay surrender" like your retarded brain tells you.

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Because Bee naturally has tentacles right?

You clearly like reading it selectively.. and don't bother which situation is being discussed.

The situation you posted was a fight between Minato's troops and Ay's troops:

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The situation i'm referring to was the 1 vs 1 , that Ay triggered:

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In the first one it was a face off between kumo and konoha, and then Minato tried to one-man it by throwing the Kunais, and then Ay retailiated and so on.

In the second one, Minato was about to leave, Ay wanted revenge for his "loss" in the clash.


"He didn't do it to make Ay surrender".. my ass he didn't rofl. He was about to leave, Ay attack, he goes to attack killer b and says " I won't fail".. sure.

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[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Yeah, and the manga says that he stopped. That's why Lee said it's supposed to be a continuous attack.

Don't debate this fag

 

[TrollingSage]

You clearly like reading it selectively.. and don't bother which situation is being discussed.

The situation you posted was a fight between Minato's troops and Ay's troops:

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The situation i'm referring to was the 1 vs 1 , that Ay triggered:

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In the first one it was a face off between kumo and konoha, and then Minato tried to one-man it by throwing the Kunais, and then Ay retailiated and so on.

In the second one, Minato was about to leave, Ay wanted revenge for his "loss" in the clash.


"He didn't do it to make Ay surrender".. my ass he didn't rofl. He was about to leave, Ay attack, he goes to attack killer b and says " I won't fail".. sure.

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Lol this guy . The scan I posted happened after Ay went one on one with Minato .Bee used his octo tentacles too save Ay. Minato then went after Bee after that

 

[A v i]

Lol

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"He stopped it Midway?" Notice how he says this when Gai isn't moving but rather striking

Notice how Gai refers to it being continuos next time with openings despite not moving.


Notice something again here:

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We see the 4 EE legs..Why? Because Gai strikes faster than the previous ones. If not, they won't be catching up to each other as you can see the distance they cover is really close.


Again this thread further confirms it since it says "Hitting Speed" The same as "Striking speed" ......Thank You very much

Oh please.

He stopped moving as well as striking when Lee made that statement, How can you be so sure about it?

No need to mention gosoka which is supposed to be the top speed of EE depends mostly on moving speed as you can see

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Moving speed plays a major role in top attack of EE yet you are telling me that he was talking about hitting speed but not moving speed? any one with 2 good eyes can clearly see the difference in his moving speed and the attack/striking pattern was same in all stages from stage one to stage 4. Only thing that got huge boost is his moving speed and there are no changes in attack type or speed from stage

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. I don't get from where you pulled that striking speed argument.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Oh please.

He stopped moving as well as striking when Lee made that statement, How can you be so sure about it?

No need to mention gosoka which is supposed to be the top speed of EE depends mostly on moving speed as you can see

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Moving speed plays a major role in top attack of EE yet you are telling me that he was talking about hitting speed but not moving speed? any one with 2 good eyes can clearly see the difference in his moving speed and the attack/striking pattern was same in all stages from stage one to stage 4. Only thing that got huge boost is his moving speed and there are no changes in attack type or speed from stage

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. I don't get from where you pulled that striking speed argument.

Thank you very much. Although the obvious is quite oblivious around here.

 

[KidGamer65]

Unless anyone is retarded enough to believe that Gaara's Sand moves anywhere near the speed of Eighth Gate Gai, and that Lee can throw projectiles faster than he can move, its pretty damn clear that he wasn't moving at top speed.

 

[Haizaki]

Oh please.

He stopped moving as well as striking when Lee made that statement, How can you be so sure about it?

No need to mention gosoka which is supposed to be the top speed of EE depends mostly on moving speed as you can see

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Moving speed plays a major role in top attack of EE yet you are telling me that he was talking about hitting speed but not moving speed? any one with 2 good eyes can clearly see the difference in his moving speed and the attack/striking pattern was same in all stages from stage one to stage 4. Only thing that got huge boost is his moving speed and there are no changes in attack type or speed from stage

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. I don't get from where you pulled that striking speed argument.

Lol what is this? Why don't you read the Manga and the arguments again before pulling this out? I'm sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over again when I've dealt with this already. Not going to bother especially with a hard banging headache atm.

Unless anyone is retarded enough to believe that Gaara's Sand moves anywhere near the speed of Eighth Gate Gai, and that Lee can throw projectiles faster than he can move, its pretty damn clear that he wasn't moving at top speed.

Lol bro it's extremely ridiculous. Gold Lightning doesn't know how silly he looks trying to ride on others that just support Minato even though I and some others trashed their arguments which doesn't make sense. Lol "Thank You very much" Despite that being dealt with over and over again.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

So a reliable source kindly translated this for me:



For those who said Guy slowed down on the last hit -_-

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Haters will ignore this though. Anything to bring Minato down to their fave's level.

 

[KidGamer65]

bro it's extremely ridiculous. Gold Lightning doesn't know how silly he looks trying to ride on others that just support Minato even though I and some others trashed their arguments which doesn't make sense. "Thank You very much" Despite that being dealt with over and over again.

These guys always wanna put logic aside in favor of their fav, only to have to nerve to say that they are the ones going by manga fact. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. I'm just going to wait for someone to logically explain why they think Minato evaded Gai's top speed, even though that'd mean saying that Lee can throw things faster than Gai can move, and that Gaara's Sand is as fast as Gai, even though it couldn't even catch Edo Madara or Joki Boy.

 

[lanakui8]

What does ʻunstoppable speedʻ even mean?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Unless anyone is retarded enough to believe that Gaara's Sand moves anywhere near the speed of Eighth Gate Gai, and that Lee can throw projectiles faster than he can move, its pretty damn clear that he wasn't moving at top speed.

Garra's sand was off-screen. That's not a legitimate counter argument, because for all we know, he was close to there to begin with. Even pretending this argument has any validity, the only possible pause could have only come in an instant, when Madara formed his shield, in which case, Guy continued his speed, and Minato's reaction feat is still legitimate.

 

[V h o]

Something about this seems sketchy and not convincing. Zzz

 

[Sennin of Logic]

These guys always wanna put logic aside in favor of their fav, only to have to nerve to say that they are the ones going by manga fact. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. I'm just going to wait for someone to logically explain why they think Minato evaded Gai's top speed, even though that'd mean saying that Lee can throw things faster than Gai can move, and that Gaara's Sand is as fast as Gai, even though it couldn't even catch Edo Madara or Joki Boy.

There's no law that Minato can't teleport away from someone moving. All teleportation requires is a jutsu activation. That alone means the idea that Minato can teleport before Guy can reach somewhere is quite logical. Of course Lee can throw kunai at incredible speeds. Humans throw projectiles at speeds that make our movement speeds seem pathetic. This is hardly an illogical concept. Refer to my previous post about Garra's sand.

 

[KidGamer65]

Garra's sand was off-screen. That's not a legitimate counter argument, because for all we know, he was close to there to begin with. Even pretending this argument has any validity, the only possible pause could have only come in an instant, when Madara formed his shield, in which case, Guy continued his speed, and Minato's reaction feat is still legitimate.

Gaara's sand is nowhere near Gai.

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Gaara lifts his hand, and all of a sudden, its right there, ahead of Gai no less.

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Off screen isn't an excuse. Nor is the rest of your post, as Gai pausing for an instant doesn't even begin to explain how Gaara's Sand outsped him, nor does the manga show any pause anyway.

When you or anyone can give me a logical explanation, then I'll concede, but based on your post, I'm pretty sure there will be no counter, no valid one anyway.

There's no law that Minato can't teleport away from someone moving.

Never said that there was.

All teleportation requires is a jutsu activation.

Your point.

That alone means the idea that Minato can teleport before Guy can reach somewhere is quite logical

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You obviously have to be able to react first. So no, if you only take that into account, then its far from logical.

Of course Lee can throw kunai at incredible speeds. Humans throw projectiles at speeds that make our movement speeds seem pathetic. This is hardly an illogical concept. Refer to my previous post about Garra's sand.

But as I expected, I've seen nothing that proves he can throw kunai faster than Gai can move. All ninja>All humans in physical abilities. I guess Konohamaru can throw Kunai faster than Juubito can move, according to your logic. Lmao. Quit now. Just quit.

 

[Haizaki]

These guys always wanna put logic aside in favor of their fav, only to have to nerve to say that they are the ones going by manga fact. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. I'm just going to wait for someone to logically explain why they think Minato evaded Gai's top speed, even though that'd mean saying that Lee can throw things faster than Gai can move, and that Gaara's Sand is as fast as Gai, even though it couldn't even catch Edo Madara or Joki Boy.

Exactly bro. Not one single soul can give a logical explanation to it..It just doesn't make any sense. Just to favor their favorite like you said, how's Gaara's sand catching up? How's Lee throwing a Kunai before Gai could move an inch? Yet not one Minato fan can explain it and this is because they aren't good or rather don't have an explanation to it. They talk about raising the gear which I already addressed with no one being able to give a decent reply, Talked about movement and striking speed which I already dealt with. Only thing left is too say "You guys deny Manga facts" in order to make use look like we're in denial when they just look extremely stupid.

 

[Haizaki]

Keep repeating the same thing over and over again after I've dealt with this. If Gaara's sand was already there, why would he be controlling it after we saw Gai move?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Gaara's sand is nowhere near Gai.

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Gaara lifts his hand, and all of a sudden, its right there, ahead of Gai no less.

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Off screen isn't an excuse. Nor is the rest of your post, as Gai pausing for an instant doesn't even begin to explain how Gaara's Sand outsped him, nor does the manga show any pause anyway.

When you or anyone can give me a logical explanation, then I'll concede, but based on your post, I'm pretty sure there will be no counter, no valid one anyway.

First off, look at the sand's position.

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It's to the top-right of Guy's perspective and the top-left of Madara's perspective is blocked off.

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The angle that the sand is relative to Madara is not visible. So no, your post about it not "being close to Guy" is irrelevant.



No, Garra did not "lift" his hand. Take a closer look without the preconceived notion that he started to move his sand after Guy moved.

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Notice how Garra's hand has no motion lines around it whatsoever. It was not moving, which is a sign that his sand was already moving.


Yes, it's the valid line of thinking. Far more valid than thinking Guy just completely blew off Minato's order to not slow down.

 

[KidGamer65]

Exactly bro. Not one single soul can give a logical explanation to it..It just doesn't make any sense. Just to favor their favorite like you said, how's Gaara's sand catching up? How's Lee throwing a Kunai before Gai could move an inch? Yet not one Minato fan can explain it and this is because they aren't good or rather don't have an explanation to it. They talk about raising the gear which I already addressed with no one being able to give a decent reply, Talked about movement and striking speed which I already dealt with. Only thing left is too say "You guys deny Manga facts" in order to make use look like we're in denial when they just look extremely stupid.

Lol, I can't even take some of these guys seriously anymore.

 

[lanakui8]

kidgamer, why did kishi have rock lee use the 6th gate?

 

[KidGamer65]

First off, look at the sand's position.

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It's to the top-right of Guy's perspective and the top-left of Madara's perspective is blocked off.

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Lol.....what?

The Sand is to the right of Gai.

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Look to the right of Gai, tell me. Do you see any trace of Sand being anywhere near him? No, you don't. Yet not long after that, Gaara's Sand is in front of Gai.

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Do the math. Gaara's Sand would have to be faster to get ahead of a top speed Gai. It not being visible from Madara's perspective is completely irrelevant and thus worthless to your argument when a few seconds earlier we see NOTHING by Gai. No sand at all.

No, Garra did not "lift" his hand. Take a closer look without the preconceived notion that he started to move his sand after Guy moved.

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Notice how Garra's hand has no motion lines around it whatsoever. It was not moving, which is a sign that his sand was already moving.

I could use this same exact logic and say that Kakashi was already using Kamui, even though its as clear as day that he wasn't doing anything until that panel. Same goes for Gaara. He wasn't doing anything until that panel of him was shown. No motion lines only means that the panel doesn't show his hand being moved, but is that relevant towards his control? No.

Nor does Gaara already controlling his sand or not even matter, because it doesn't change the fact that in one moment, there was no sand near him, and that in the next moment, there was sand in front of him.

Yes, it's the valid line of thinking. Far more valid than thinking Guy just completely blew off Minato's order to not slow down.

So, Gai making a brief pause explains how Gaara's Sand got in front of him, even though:

1. No pause was shown.

2. A pause goes against Minato's order.

3. A brief pause wouldn't let Gaara's Sand outspeed Gai.

4. Thus, a pause doesn't even begin to explain anything, thus is not a valid line of thinking.

Minato told him to hit him no matter what. Doesn't even begin to translate to "Move at your full speed at all times, don't slow down"

kidgamer, why did kishi have rock lee use the 6th gate?

To increase his speed and strength to better support Gai.