even if Jiraiya knew about the secret of pain would he still be able to defeat him??

shelke

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Just one offensive path ****ed him up the second he showed up. He was on ropes the whole time against two defensive paths and one offensive path that couldn't do anything in tight corridors.

Yeah ... sure, he totally does it.
 

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If he knew the true number of Pains and successfully uses frog song with all 6 present, then yes of course he wins. It would be a matter of whether or not he's killed by Deva path before that.

With deva restricted and full knowledge, Jiraiya can definitely win. With Deva at full power, it would require Jiraiya to hide out while the toads channel the song. If the song succeeds on all 6, Jiraiya obviously wins.

However, even with full knowledge and killing all 6, Jiraiya would not reliably be able to pinpoint Pain's real body. At which point, the battle would reset when pain gets new bodies.
 

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If he knew the true number of Pains and successfully uses frog song with all 6 present, then yes of course he wins. It would be a matter of whether or not he's killed by Deva path before that.

With deva restricted and full knowledge, Jiraiya can definitely win. With Deva at full power, it would require Jiraiya to hide out while the toads channel the song. If the song succeeds on all 6, Jiraiya obviously wins.

However, even with full knowledge and killing all 6, Jiraiya would not reliably be able to pinpoint Pain's real body. At which point, the battle would reset when pain gets new bodies.

BS answer : naruto knew about the secret of pain, yet he could barely defeat him ...
 
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