even if Jiraiya knew about the secret of pain would he still be able to defeat him??

[minamoto]

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even if Jiraiya knew about the secret of pain(Nagato) would he still be able to defeat him??

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[Aominecchi]

I don't think so...except talk no jutsu

 

[minamoto]

I don't think so...except talk no jutsu

i never seen jiraiya use tnj

 

[~Ethereal~]

Not really.

 

[Dantee]

Not a chance.

 

[minamoto]

Not a chance.

at least jiraiya died like a hero... not like sasuke who died like a fodder by the hands of madara...

 

[Dantee]

at least jiraiya died like a hero... not like sasuke who died like a fodder by the hands of madara...

At least Sasuke didnt die a virgin like your hero and I'm sure you will follow in his foot steps.

 

[cabby007]

Yes, pein even said that if jiraiya knew the secret he would most likely have won lol

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Jiryia had more women than Pein. Of course he beats him. =D

 

[minamoto]

At least Sasuke didnt die a virgin like your hero and I'm sure you will follow in his foot steps.

madara didnt die virgin becuz he already >ed sasku hahahaha

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

madara didnt die virgin becuz he already >ed sasku hahahaha

Madara died a virgin.

 

[Ambivalence]

Sure he can - just restrict Deva completely, make Jiraiya bring the whole toad army like Naruto did, restrict most of Asura's arsenal, and he'd probably pull it off.

In a word: nope.

 

[minamoto]

Yes, pein even said that if jiraiya knew the secret he would most likely have won lol

but the problem is dat even after naruto (who surpassed jiraiya ) knew about the secret of pain, he could barely defeat him( thx to minato and the villagers help)

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nope. I don't see how the outcome would have been any different.

 

[Troyg39]

Maybe. Had he known he likely would've saved Frog Song until he could get them all in range. The biggest factor in his loss was not knowing how many of them there actually were. He'd still have to actually trap them and take them all out though. At the very least he would've had a better chance of escaping himself with the intel

 

[Dantee]

madara didnt die virgin becuz he already >ed sasku hahahaha

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If Madaras not a virgin its only because he died from taking it from the back too many times.

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[Nick01]

His chances would increase.

 

[dark legion]

I think he actually defeated Pain. his victory goal was to find identity and secrets of Pain, and he was ready to pay with his life.

 

[Rohan]

Yes, he will defeat him.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Madara died a virgin.

Didn't Zetsu and Obito penetrate him?