[Discussion] Evangelical Christian Hypocrisy

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As a Christian I hate to see this stuff. Its like a big sign is held over our head whenever we do something slightly wrong and it buzzes, goes off and the world points their fingers and forgets we are human. People in general are hypocrites and things are over exaggerated. For instance I don't believe in gay marriage. All of a sudden I am a people hater and right winged Christian? Whoa whoa....I don't agree with what Jack n the box puts in their tacos but does that mean I want to burn it down? Like. W0t calm down I aint done anything. I mean you are welcomed to believe whatever cliché nonsense you get from media or just your imagination but it seems okay to generalize and antagonize Christians but does anyone care? I saw a chrisitian called dumb on live live t.v but let anyone call a homosexual dumb and twitter will be busy that day. So yeah that's totally cool.

LOL, I curse.. I need to get better but when I do I feel like Bill Maher going to hop at the trash can and be like AH HA! Like w0t???!!! LOL, people always want to bash religion as a preemptive strike or self defense from an imaginary warfare on nothing. LOL, People will slap me in the face and when I get my back hand ready they show me a bible like they warning me. "Oooohh you a Christian you cant do that." They literally cite things out of context but cite them nonetheless and Im like you know a lot about a religion you don't believe in homeboy. >_>.

*sigh* but seriously. I can understand. Some people give us a bad rep. We are supposed to be loving but many people who aren't Christians don't really understand the context of that love. Maybe you met someone who was all fire and brimstone but I feel like people just love to catch us in anything and be like "HYPOCRITE" Im sorry...I wasn't born in a manger. I am not the second coming of Christ. You might not know this but I am not perfect. *GASP* What a surprise. Can we stop making up stuff. LOL
 
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Gilgameshkunism is the only acceptable religion...besides Buddhism U_U Worship me mongrels


OT: Thought it was known Christians are forever talking out their ass?
 

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What I would like to know is why he bashes Muslims for their actions but tries to justify Christians.

Title can answer this well.

OT: Most "hardcore" believers are the ones who have certain agendas and use a certain tool to fill that agenda. Being earthly and greedy is frowned upon in many religions but people are so afraid to be misunderstood by the all knowing God so they go these extreme ways.

We just need basic values that people practice regardless of belief (or lack of it). Be a decent human and let people do what they want as long as they are harmless.
 

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As a Christian I hate to see this stuff. Its like a big sign is held over our head whenever we do something slightly wrong and it buzzes, goes off and the world points their fingers and forgets we are human. People in general are hypocrites and things are over exaggerated. For instance I don't believe in gay marriage. All of a sudden I am a people hater and right winged Christian? Whoa whoa....I don't agree with what Jack n the box puts in their tacos but does that mean I want to burn it down? Like. W0t calm down I aint done anything. I mean you are welcomed to believe whatever cliché nonsense you get from media or just your imagination but it seems okay to generalize and antagonize Christians but does anyone care? I saw a chrisitian called dumb on live live t.v but let anyone call a homosexual dumb and twitter will be busy that day. So yeah that's totally cool.

LOL, I curse.. I need to get better but when I do I feel like Bill Maher going to hop at the trash can and be like AH HA! Like w0t???!!! LOL, people always want to bash religion as a preemptive strike or self defense from an imaginary warfare on nothing. LOL, People will slap me in the face and when I get my back hand ready they show me a bible like they warning me. "Oooohh you a Christian you cant do that." They literally cite things out of context but cite them nonetheless and Im like you know a lot about a religion you don't believe in homeboy. >_>.

*sigh* but seriously. I can understand. Some people give us a bad rep. We are supposed to be loving but many people who aren't Christians don't really understand the context of that love. Maybe you met someone who was all fire and brimstone but I feel like people just love to catch us in anything and be like "HYPOCRITE" Im sorry...I wasn't born in a manger. I am not the second coming of Christ. You might not know this but I am not perfect. *GASP* What a surprise. Can we stop making up stuff. LOL
I don't really think you understood the point of this thread.
 

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Bill Maher and those fake Christians he's speaking of are both arrogant hypocrites.
 

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As a Christian I hate to see this stuff. Its like a big sign is held over our head whenever we do something slightly wrong and it buzzes, goes off and the world points their fingers and forgets we are human. People in general are hypocrites and things are over exaggerated. For instance I don't believe in gay marriage. All of a sudden I am a people hater and right winged Christian? Whoa whoa....I don't agree with what Jack n the box puts in their tacos but does that mean I want to burn it down? Like. W0t calm down I aint done anything. I mean you are welcomed to believe whatever cliché nonsense you get from media or just your imagination but it seems okay to generalize and antagonize Christians but does anyone care? I saw a chrisitian called dumb on live live t.v but let anyone call a homosexual dumb and twitter will be busy that day. So yeah that's totally cool.

LOL, I curse.. I need to get better but when I do I feel like Bill Maher going to hop at the trash can and be like AH HA! Like w0t???!!! LOL, people always want to bash religion as a preemptive strike or self defense from an imaginary warfare on nothing. LOL, People will slap me in the face and when I get my back hand ready they show me a bible like they warning me. "Oooohh you a Christian you cant do that." They literally cite things out of context but cite them nonetheless and Im like you know a lot about a religion you don't believe in homeboy. >_>.

*sigh* but seriously. I can understand. Some people give us a bad rep. We are supposed to be loving but many people who aren't Christians don't really understand the context of that love. Maybe you met someone who was all fire and brimstone but I feel like people just love to catch us in anything and be like "HYPOCRITE" Im sorry...I wasn't born in a manger. I am not the second coming of Christ. You might not know this but I am not perfect. *GASP* What a surprise. Can we stop making up stuff. LOL

If you don't like gay marrige because of Christianity don't get gay married. Why would your own beliefs determine other people's lifestyle?

Hypocracy comes into play when people use their religion for their own intolerant agenda while ignoring the parts which suggest to be peaceful and respectful. Going "this shit does not get along with my beliefs " over other religions and lifestyles then resorting into "hey i am not perfect" when someone points out your own religion lectures being respectful is hypocracy, inconsistency, halfassing w/e you wanna say when you want to implement your own beliefs to others who simply do not have to live that way. If you wanna say "i am a Christian and that's the way it should be" don't be surprised if someone says "well you are a Christian and this is the way it is".

It is like forcing people to eat your own cake by saying "bro i believe in this cake, i put my best in it but it is not baked and i did not put sugar in it cuz i am not perfect still it is the right cake and you gotta eat it." Are people at fault to simply say "this cake actually suppose to have sugar in it and gotta be baked" or "i don't want to eat your cake"?

PS i don't meant you as "you" (it is more like general term) and i don't care in what percentage someone believes in their own religion. Point is one need to keep their own religion to themselves and when they don't they better be ready for some reaction and refutation. This includes discriminating opinions and acts which meddle with harmless people.
 

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If you don't like gay marrige because of Christianity don't get gay married. Why would your own beliefs determine other people's lifestyle?

Hypocracy comes into play when people use their religion for their own intolerant agenda while ignoring the parts which suggest to be peaceful and respectful. Going "this shit does not get along with my beliefs " over other religions and lifestyles then resorting into "hey i am not perfect" when someone points out your own religion lectures being respectful is hypocracy, inconsistency, halfassing w/e you wanna say when you want to implement your own beliefs to others who simply do not have to live that way. If you wanna say "i am a Christian and that's the way it should be" don't be surprised if someone says "well you are a Christian and this is the way it is".

It is like forcing people to eat your own cake by saying "bro i believe in this cake, i put my best in it but it is not baked and i did not put sugar in it cuz i am not perfect still it is the right cake and you gotta eat it." Are people at fault to simply say "this cake actually suppose to have sugar in it and gotta be baked" or "i don't want to eat your cake"?

PS i don't meant you as "you" (it is more like general term) and i don't care in what percentage someone believes in their own religion. Point is one need to keep their own religion to themselves and when they don't they better be ready for some reaction and refutation. This includes discriminating opinions and acts which meddle with harmless people.
Again not believing in something and forcing them to do something are completely different things. Apparently what I get from this tone is that you believe I want to force gay people not to get married? Or are you generalizing me into a population? Idk which parts were about me or about us as a whole. LOL, but sure its okay for people to say you cant pray in school. Why would your beliefs on prayer effect someone elses lifestyle right? Yep, that is not infringing upon my beliefs whatsoever. If you don't believe in prayer then don't pray right? Can you see the hypocrisy in that?????

KEEP RELIGION TO THEMSELVES. LOL, if only this were possible but so many times I am chillin...eating cereal...and then out of nowhere....I hear... "10 Facts that prove Jesus is not real" >_>, "Christians are ignorant"<_<, "Religious people are hypocrites", "BOOM TAKE THAT RELIGION" @_@, Leave me alone. >_>. Like people go out of there way to talk about religion unprovoked for whatever reason. Maybe it makes them feel more comfortable about their beliefs. Maybe they had a bad experience maybe they had a stomach virus idk, but just because you aren't a Christian doesn't mean you get to leave your own respectfulness at the door. EVERYONE should be respectful regardless. We only bring up "I'm not perfect" because they expect me to be able to heal the sick and fly like mary poppins and that is an unrealistic view of anyone. A Christian should be a pretty good person but people go overboard when trying to prove a point looking for any faults no matter how small.

I'll just tackle your example about the cake. I get your point but it is off. Im not going to force feed my religion to you but I'll say ACCORDING TO OUR RELIGION, (not saying you believe it.) God's WORD is perfect. WE ARENT PERFECT, but his laws are there. If I tell you to believe in a religion its not like baking a cake without sugar because I'm not telling you to believe in me. LOL, I have nothing to do with your relationship with god i'm just a person. I didn't MAKE this religion Jesus did so I am telling you to believe in something already there.

I know people who evangelize and its never like. YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS WORD LISTEN OR YOU ARE HELL BOUND! I think its perfectly acceptable to ask someone if they would like to learn about Christianity and if not that's them. Its not even just homosexuals but that seems to be spotlighted. I don't believe in sleeping around with every person at the club but again I'm not cutting off everyone's penis when they do it. Like this is crazy. LOL
 

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Again not believing in something and forcing them to do something are completely different things. Apparently what I get from this tone is that you believe I want to force gay people not to get married? Or are you generalizing me into a population? Idk which parts were about me or about us as a whole. LOL, but sure its okay for people to say you cant pray in school. Why would your beliefs on prayer effect someone elses lifestyle right? Yep, that is not infringing upon my beliefs whatsoever. If you don't believe in prayer then don't pray right? Can you see the hypocrisy in that?????

KEEP RELIGION TO THEMSELVES. LOL, if only this were possible but so many times I am chillin...eating cereal...and then out of nowhere....I hear... "10 Facts that prove Jesus is not real" >_>, "Christians are ignorant"<_<, "Religious people are hypocrites", "BOOM TAKE THAT RELIGION" @_@, Leave me alone. >_>. Like people go out of there way to talk about religion unprovoked for whatever reason. Maybe it makes them feel more comfortable about their beliefs. Maybe they had a bad experience maybe they had a stomach virus idk, but just because you aren't a Christian doesn't mean you get to leave your own respectfulness at the door. EVERYONE should be respectful regardless. We only bring up "I'm not perfect" because they expect me to be able to heal the sick and fly like mary poppins and that is an unrealistic view of anyone. A Christian should be a pretty good person but people go overboard when trying to prove a point looking for any faults no matter how small.

I'll just tackle your example about the cake. I get your point but it is off. Im not going to force feed my religion to you but I'll say ACCORDING TO OUR RELIGION, (not saying you believe it.) God's WORD is perfect. WE ARENT PERFECT, but his laws are there. If I tell you to believe in a religion its not like baking a cake without sugar because I'm not telling you to believe in me. LOL, I have nothing to do with your relationship with god i'm just a person. I didn't MAKE this religion Jesus did so I am telling you to believe in something already there.

I know people who evangelize and its never like. YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS WORD LISTEN OR YOU ARE HELL BOUND! I think its perfectly acceptable to ask someone if they would like to learn about Christianity and if not that's them. Its not even just homosexuals but that seems to be spotlighted. I don't believe in sleeping around with every person at the club but again I'm not cutting off everyone's penis when they do it. Like this is crazy. LOL

The reason people speak on it is because it's slowly starting to hold the government back on certain subjects in the US. Like, abortion or gay marriage. Religious people will sit there and say my bible specifically says this is not allowed, but when they are asked other things they should be doing as per their bible, they say things like you. "Jesus died for my sins". "I'm not perfect." It's all they can say because they don't want to believe themselves to be hypocrites about their own religion.

That's why we have separation of church and state. So things like that won't happen. Our presidential candidates should not have to speak on their personal beliefs like gay marriage or abortion. However it makes for two of the most important talking points to some citizens. In the bible belt, religious people will likely not vote for Hillary because she is a pro-gay and pro-choice. However they will vote for someone like Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney... These days our politicians have to speak on their religious beliefs otherwise they wouldn't even be thought of.

He rants in a condescending manner about people that are condescending towards others.

When has he done that? Lol.
 

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The reason people speak on it is because it's slowly starting to hold the government back on certain subjects in the US. Like, abortion or gay marriage. Religious people will sit there and say my bible specifically says this is not allowed, but when they are asked other things they should be doing as per their bible, they say things like you. "Jesus died for my sins". "I'm not perfect." It's all they can say because they don't want to believe themselves to be hypocrites about their own religion.

It's actually been the insanity of the left that has provoked most of it.

Track back the personal connections of the people involved even in the abortion bombings. John Burt is a common name that crops up - a former Marine and a prior member of the KKK. These are people with a history of radical agendas and affiliation with very liberal organizations (the KKK is politically liberal contrary to popular belief - the only "right" concept they have is Nationalism - which they subscribe to the concept of a Nation of Men; which means that nations are ethnic in nature and that the laws of a nation should serve the interests of the race who comprises it).

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Anyway - after creating much of the abortion issue years ago and it having been solved, it has now been stirred up again by using the government to fund abortion clinics. Like most things funded by the government - these people will abort goats if the government will pay them (just like clinics that accept medicare will dialyze a jar of peanut butter if the government will accept the paperwork and pay them). Because of this - you get scenarios where Planned Parenthood enables child *** slavery by performing abortions for the slaves and not reporting the incident to the police even when the situation is made blatantly clear to them.

Which, obviously, is going to piss any sensible human being off.

The healthcare requirements that mandate coverage for abortions (even for 50 year old women and 20 year old men) are also irritating from a number of standpoints. This compounds with the charge to try and make abortion a legally guaranteed right simply provokes a response from Christians.

That's why we have separation of church and state. So things like that won't happen. Our presidential candidates should not have to speak on their personal beliefs like gay marriage or abortion. However it makes for two of the most important talking points to some citizens. In the bible belt, religious people will likely not vote for Hillary because she is a pro-gay and pro-choice. However they will vote for someone like Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney... These days our politicians have to speak on their religious beliefs otherwise they wouldn't even be thought of.

Hillary is just a vile human being. She's flip-flopped on her abortion and gay rights stance so many times that no one really takes her seriously. She's hateful and condescending toward her staff as well as reporters. She's guilty of perjury in the least and should be serving a life sentence behind bars for her actions while in the State Department. Quite literally no one wants to talk to her on the campaign trail. The 'impromptu meetings' she had were scheduled events staged by democratic party staff (most of whom didn't know what their meeting was about until moments before - THAT is how toxic the woman is).

Of course - she isn't spending time behind bars - because the Democrats are actually running candidates like Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney. Most of the GOP is actually the Democrat party, and the voting public has caught on.

The problem with "separation of Church and State" is that no one really understands what it means, anymore. The idea that it was meant to somehow keep any kind of religious sentiment out of law is just not what was actually going on:



"The phrase “separation of church and state” was initially coined by Baptists striving for religious toleration in Virginia, whose official state religion was then Anglican (Episcopalian). Baptists thought government limitations against religion illegitimate. James Madison and Thomas Jefferson championed their cause.

The preamble in Act Establishing Religious Freedom in Virginia (1786), affirms that “the Author of our Religion gave us our ‘free will.’” And that He “chose not to propagate it by coercions.” This legislation certainly did not diminish religious influence on government for it also provided stiff penalties for conducting business on the Sabbath.

Nor did the Constitution inhibit public displays of faith. At ratification, a majority of the thirteen several and sovereign states maintained official religions. The early Republic welcomed public worship. Church services were held in the U.S. Capitol and Treasury buildings every Sunday. The imagery in many federal buildings remains unmistakably biblical.

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The phrase “separation between church and state” was reintroduced by former Klansman Hugo Black, historically one of our most liberal Supreme Court judges. In the 1947 Everson v. Board of Education, Justice Black invoked Thomas Jefferson stating, “The First Amendment has erected ‘a wall of separation between church and state.’ . . . that wall must be kept high and impregnable.”

Thomas Jefferson thought differently. The Danbury Baptists wrote to him congratulating his election and objecting to the First Amendment. They thought it implied government dispensed what was not government’s to give. Jefferson agreed.

His reply clearly applied “Separation of Church and State” to the establishment and not to the free exercise of religion. As he expressed, what communities did and how they worshipped were not federal affairs. Jefferson later said the central government was “interdicted from intermeddling with religious institutions.” Such were state matters.

Freedom of religion was partly moral – protecting our most cherished liberty – and partly pragmatic. Religious animosity tears society asunder, particularly when church is affixed to government. With freedom of conscience assured, conflict becomes less likely. The First Amendment was an insightful compromise between church and state, federal and local authorities. The framers desired to avoid the controversies which engulfed Europe.

As James Madison warned in Federalist 10, “The latent causes of faction are thus sown in the nature of man; . . . A zeal for different opinions concerning religion, concerning government, and many other points, . . . ambitiously contending for pre-eminence and power . . . divided mankind into parties, inflamed them with mutual animosity, and rendered them much more disposed to vex and oppress each other than to cooperate for their common good.”

Thus the Constitution decreed that Washington had no occasion or authority to interject itself into matters as obviously local as doctrines of faith. Congress was not empowered to establish a church because the framers feared that concentrated power, whether favored religions, standing armies, banking monopolies, or an overarching federal government, invited tyranny. "


Separation of Church and State was not to prevent laws from being written that have a basis in religious morality. It was to prevent the establishment of favored religions and tyrannical systems of central control.

All of the problems we see running rampant in our society, now, are a direct result of our nation not abiding by the Constitution. We followed the liberal interpretation into nations of men and now we are poised to kill each other into our separate sections of the continent - just like Europe.

European politics begets European outcomes.

When has he done that? Lol.

Maher is a sort of box of chocolates - you truly never know what you're going to get.

Maher is an intellectual person and does what intellectuals most often do - comment on the errors of others. Sometimes, Maher is dead on the money. Other times, he's in the ball park. And, sometimes, he's lecturing a mirror.

What makes Maher tolerable is the fact that he will actually consider data if it is presented to him and/or review his stance if reality seems to be contradicting his expectations.
 
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