Establishing Why Tobirama > EMS Madara

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WolfHaley

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Yes, It's a basic concept. Large volumes of water are needed to put out massive fires. You're the only person here who puts on a forest fire with a bucket. Tobirama aint got the suiton feats and kage bushin have already been claimed to be fodder by madara

Why would I care about the forrest fire if I'm not burnt?
 

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That little thin water gun doesn't cannot extinguish even one percent of Extermination or Destruction. Tobirama is roasted.

In part one, Tobirama could use water wall. Due to power scaling, water wall would be bigger. Water wall will block the portion of fire coming in Tobirama's immediate area. He doesn't need to put out the whole forest fire, but just the fire at the tree he wants to sit by if that makes sense.
 

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In part one, Tobirama could use water wall. Due to power scaling, water wall would be bigger. Water wall will block the portion of fire coming in Tobirama's immediate area. He doesn't need to put out the whole forest fire, but just the fire at the tree he wants to sit by if that makes sense.

The flames are in large waves. They would literally evaporate the water and burn Tobirama.
 

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I think Tobirama can fight in the same league as Madara. I dunno if he can pull out a victory.

@ lol at a Katon killing Tobirama
 

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Even if they did counter each other's justu, unless they both backed off they'd get burned by the steam right?
 

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The flames are in large waves. They would literally evaporate the water and burn Tobirama.

Yes, and Tobirama keeps the water wall up by continuously providing water form his mouth. A katon is not ending this fight.
 

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^ I highly doubt it as every technique has it limit.
 

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Yes, and Tobirama keeps the water wall up by continuously providing water form his mouth. A katon is not ending this fight.

The only person I think who'd be safe from the extreme heat from the steam would be madara...

He'd be better of FTG'ing away from the katon.

I'm not arguing whether he could match Katon with Suiton, but whether he's actually going to waste chakra to do it.

Tobirama is smarter than that
 

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Dafuq am i reading? :|. I can counter if i want to, but i just finished my long ass homework in the library. And lol, people actually think Tobirama's suiton is enough to counter Madara's.

EMS Madara > Tobirama mid diff.
 

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^ I highly doubt it as every technique has it limit.



He keeps the suiton going until the katon is done.
 

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What about the heat of the steam?

Obviously doesn't effect him since it didn't effect the fodder alliance members who put out Madara's katon. It won't be lethal anyways.
 

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lmao im sorry but what? tobirama taking ems madara with kyuubi? dat wank is so strong, lucky i have to finish my medical and english essay right now or else i'd R.I.P this thread, lmao I just cant with nb anymore. lmaooo
 

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Obviously doesn't effect him since it didn't effect the fodder alliance members who put out Madara's katon. It won't be lethal anyways.

when did the fodder alliance match madara's katon?

nvm, I see it.

If he's at a distance then I can see the steam not affecting him, but if he does that suiton on that scale then Tobirama is better off FTG'in away
 

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He keeps the suiton going until the katon is done.

That is a measly little Katon attack compared to this:

- - Look at the long line of people using Suiton to extinguish it.

and this:

- That's V3 Susano'o on the hill, by the way. How does he even hope to save him with what you posted? Come on! Be reasonable.
 

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Thank you for the read. Tobirama deserves the praise.
 

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That is a measly little Katon attack compared to this:

- - Look at the long line of people using Suiton to extinguish it.

and this:

- That's V3 Susano'o on the hill, by the way. How does he even hope to save him with what you posted? Come on! Be reasonable.

The suiton would be bigger, way bigger. If all Tobirama had was that suiton with that size, he would be toast. Use power scaling. The Tobirama that used that jutsu was barely even powered. It would be way bigger if he was alive.
 

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Hashirama never had killing intent towards Madara from my understanding though. But to each his own. I don't think Tobirama beats EMS Madara + Kyuubi, but pushes him to high diff due to portrayal. I think Tobirama beats EMS Madara without Kyuubi though.

Well, it's like comparing base minato to Orange mask Obito.

It requires more chakra to control the beast with eye power alone, so you limit your techniques.

Madara has more Justus in his disposal, but he wasn't battling to kill Hashirama either...Remember?

Also on a side note, Tobirama said that this time he will defeat Madara <----Meaning he never got a chance to match him.

Dan said only Hashirama can beat Madara (not Tobirama)...

Etc
 
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