Establishing why Jiraiya is top 10

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Guess you forgot that Toad Swamp solos Itachi in 2 seconds flat

So you are saying that jman can do hand seals then execute a jutsu faster than itachi can activate tsukuyomi just by mere eye contact? Lol ok
 

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You're kidding right? Animal Path is second only to Deva. Preta Path isn't strong offensively but is really OP on the defensive. Human Path? One touch and it's over.

animal path is the weakest path not even close to deva summons in naruto get rekt unless their bijuu or woodgod. preta path isn't strong and cant absorb too much of his senjutsu. human path doesn't have much combat prowess.
 

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Wtf he beat 3 pains they revived and caught him off guard obito before nagatos death couldn't beat 6 paths of pain

ms obito would own pain. as I said he only beat the three weakest ones that's not much of a feat even konohamaru could take out a weak one.
 

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Lol amateratsu and tsukuyomi is all itachi would need. I doubt that he would even go susanoo

Sasuke broke tsukuyomi neg diff lol sm will make jiraiya more than fast enough to dodge amaretsu he even knew Itachi was going to use it when he couldn't see him their first encounter and that was base jiraiya susanoo is weak in itachis form underground attacks destroy Itachi and we have seen even PS breaks pretty easily Itachi is skilled but jiraiya stomps him he can also summon many toads to fight susanoo and hit Itachi from all angles
 

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Your logic is flawed

You think that a dust cloud would stop itachi? All he was to do is activate susanoo and wave his arm and the cloud is gone
 

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So you are saying that jman can do hand seals then execute a jutsu faster than itachi can activate tsukuyomi just by mere eye contact? Lol ok

Dude he's a sannin genjutsu won't work on him and yes jiraiya can do hand signals fast enough but he also has plenty of ways to distract Itachi who has probably the lowest chakra pool in NV
 

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Dude he's a sannin genjutsu won't work on him and yes jiraiya can do hand signals fast enough but he also has plenty of ways to distract Itachi who has probably the lowest chakra pool in NV

Yes, Jiraiya's a Sannin, I seem to remember Genjutsu working swimmingly on Orochimaru, who is also a Sannin.
 
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Sasuke broke tsukuyomi neg diff lol sm will make jiraiya more than fast enough to dodge amaretsu he even knew Itachi was going to use it when he couldn't see him their first encounter and that was base jiraiya susanoo is weak in itachis form underground attacks destroy Itachi and we have seen even PS breaks pretty easily Itachi is skilled but jiraiya stomps him he can also summon many toads to fight susanoo and hit Itachi from all angles

1. That was like a half powered tsukuyomi

2.sage mode takes how long for jman to activate?

3.what underground techs doe jman know? LOL

4.Amateratsu> Pains dogs > toads
 

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Dude he's a sannin genjutsu won't work on him and yes jiraiya can do hand signals fast enough but he also has plenty of ways to distract Itachi who has probably the lowest chakra pool in NV
Do you not know that 3T Sasuke reversed orochimatus genjutsu in his own dimension? Who is also a. Sannin. If that's what 3T does ms would rape jman. I'm sorry
 

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Your logic is flawed

You think that a dust cloud would stop itachi? All he was to do is activate susanoo and wave his arm and the cloud is gone

Honey, you should take a look at your own logic
 

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ms obito would own pain. as I said he only beat the three weakest ones that's not much of a feat even konohamaru could take out a weak one.

Plz enlighten me on how obito beats pain lmao and if pain is alive it's just Ms obito with the paths being visually linked obito can't surprise them kamui can be defeated by continuous attacks meanwhile obito can't counter because he isn't solid and all his jutsu is absorbed to obito stands no chance even he said he couldn't control two rinnegans lol nagato stomps him also kabuto in sm was scared to fight someone with one rinnegan nagato outclassed them both
 

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Yes, Jiraiya's a Sannin, I seem to remember Genjutsu working swimmingly on Orochimaru, who is also a Sannin.

Oro was weak an needed a body he wasn't at full strength even Naruto when he was weak broke itachis genjutsu it's not hard at all
 

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Honey, you should take a look at your own logic


So youres saying. If you had a pile of smoke in front of you. You couldn't fan it away with you're hand? Ok. Not to mention that susanoo has a big ass shield so yeah that's a good substitute for a fan
 
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1. That was like a half powered tsukuyomi

2.sage mode takes how long for jman to activate?

3.what underground techs doe jman know? LOL

4.Amateratsu> Pains dogs > toads

Itachi wanted to test sasuke to see if he was strong enough it wasn't half power
Jiraiya can distract Itachi with his summons and his arsenal of toad jutsus fire jutsu earth and maybe more
Jiraiyas toads can go underground and he has earth jutsus to attack from the ground
Amaretsu is only effective if it hits Itachi doesn't have blaze release like sasuke and he hurts himself and it drains him making jiraiyas job easier
 

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He is equal to Itachi who is not top 10...so no :/

Arguably true.

However, it is also arguably true that Jiraiya could beat Nagato. So if Nagato's top 10, does that make Jiraiya top 10?

I feel that Jiraiya (and Itachi) are close to top 10, but that still makes them top 20 however it's sliced.

Jiraiya is an immensely powerful shinobi, even if he only had one true battle was to hype another immensely powerful shinobi.

He's equal stats wise. But we all know that itachi beats him

Itachi says you're wrong.
 
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