[Theory] Enton: Kagutsuchi

[SkyGodHorus]

Lied? seriously? -_-
Didn't you see Sasuke use Katon: Gōryūka no Jutsu, which is shape manipulation of fire to form a dragon made up of fire as a pre-requisite for using Kirin? You're talking as if Kishi himself stated that lightning is a part of Enton. -_-

No, as you remember, I said it seemed the more logical choice. I didn't say it was fact. If it were fact, would not be having this discussion. You found one possible point with the Katon, but right after that, he created a far more powerful Chidori dragon that he manipulated the direction of rather than spitting like Katon. And I still don't see how the same chakra nature can be two.

I will still stick with my point. Amaterasu=black flames and I don't see how lightning can enhance black flames.

They are both composed of plasma. Lightning itself is super heated electrostatic discharges.

 

[Behemoth55]

You found one possible point with the Katon, but right after that, he created a far more powerful Chidori dragon that he manipulated the direction of rather than spitting like Katon.

Kirin is Keitaihenka too. Sasuke changes the form of a flash(Keitaihenka) and directs that huge amount of Raiton-energy with his own Raiton-Chakra. He doesn't manipulate its form with Chidori.

 

[SoundBar]

Itachi* :bouncy:

Darn spell check lol

isn't tsukiypmi depicted in inverted colour pattern than other genjutsu which sauce has shown on 2 occ
1.against killer b
2.against danzo

That's not what defines Tsukiyomi as a jutsu, Sasuke does not have it, that was regular Sharingan genjutsu. Whether Enton is a eye tech or KKG or both, it's still his second tech.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Kirin is Keitaihenka too. Sasuke changes the form of a flash(Keitaihenka) and directs that huge amount of Raiton-energy with his own Raiton-Chakra. He doesn't manipulate its form with Chidori.

That's why I said EITHER chidori or lightning element, but yes calling Kirin chidori was a mistake.

 

[Naruto.]

Similar to other Mangekyō Sharingan abilities, Kagutsuchi's name is derived from Japanese myth and religion. Kagutsuchi is the God of Fire in Shinto and the one who brought death into the world by burning his mother Izanami to death as she gave birth to him. This made his father, Izanagi, kill him with the Totsuka sword.

Found this on the wikia. Should be interesting.

 

[Mattyj420]

Isn't his Sharingan a kkg

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

it's a kekkei genkai.. obito also has it.. he used it to protect gedou mazou while it was turning juubi the first time.

EDIT: i voted kekkei genkai, but it's not, it's a nature type or how is it called when you combine nature tranformations to create a new one?

 

[SkyGodHorus]

it's a kekkei genkai.. obito also has it.. he used it to protect gedou mazou while it was turning juubi the first time.

EDIT: i voted kekkei genkai, but it's not, it's a nature type or how is it called when you combine nature tranformations to create a new one?

When I said Kekkei Genki, I meant in the chakra nature/elemental sense like Haku's ice mirrors, Mei's lava release, mokuton, etc, not just any hereditary clan technique (for the umpteenth time).

 

[Ohhdang]

Are people really having issues with this concept? A Kekkei Genki is a Kekkei Genki, it doesn't matter if it's an elemental one or a hereditary one. Sasuke's manipulation of the Amaterasu in his right eye is what's making Enton a Kekkei Genki. Sasuke is the only one ever to have Enton, as Hashirama was really the only one ever to have Mokuton naturally. Does this mean maybe one day someone can take sasuke's cells and use Enton? No because it was a Kekkei Genkei that was created within sasuke's eyes, which means it probably requires his eyes in order to use. Anyway, Enton is neither a elemental Kekkei Genki or hereditary one, it's an entirely new category. The manipulation of Amaterasu flames has never been done before other than by Sasuke making it a Kekkei Genki in its own.

Btw OP, there's no way Raiton has anything to do with Enton. Remember the combination of elements require two different kinds of chakras to be molded together. This is often shown by the use of both hands when using such techniques. If that's the case, has Sasuke ever been seen using both hands to combine more than one element? I think not.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

He is Manipulating the Amaterasu. Technically, it is nothing more that Uber Katon.

 

[Sauske Freakin Uchiha]

It's both dude. Just a power the sharingan has like susano.

Itachi- Tsukuyomi - Stronger sharingan genjutsu - Weaker amaterasu
Sauske- Blaze Release - Stronger amaterasu - Weaker sharingan genjutsu

But I think he does combine it with fire release chakra, just how would he get it to the point his eyes were looking at? Maybe amaterasu chakra can ftg telly or something, but his fire release always came from his mouth or hands.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Are people really having issues with this concept? A Kekkei Genki is a Kekkei Genki, it doesn't matter if it's an elemental one or a hereditary one.

Well, the one I was referring to was the elemental chakra kekkei genki. People make mistakes.

Anyway, Enton is neither a elemental Kekkei Genki or hereditary one, it's an entirely new category.

Enton translates to Blaze Release. Release refers to chakra nature, whether the ability's combined natures are known or not. You simply saying it is not does not erase this fact. At the very least, it has a fire nature, but if it were only fire, he would have said katon instead of enton.

Btw OP, there's no way Raiton has anything to do with Enton.

You have nothing to prove that.

Remember the combination of elements require two different kinds of chakras to be molded together. This is often shown by the use of both hands when using such techniques.

"Often," but not always.

If that's the case, has Sasuke ever been seen using both hands to combine more than one element? I think not.

The same can be said for his chidori techniques, thus there is no basis.