"Enton has no mass" lol

[Remedy]

Naruto's Kyuubi and Rikudou Enhanced Rasengan possesses more potent chakra than Raikage's Raiton Armor, so Sasuke's Weakened Enton being unable to penetrate through Naruto's Rasengan makes sense. With Raikage, Enton burned through his armor easily, so we know that Enton Kagutsuchi instantly burns through the armor and instantly focuses all of its pressure on Raikage.

I'm not even going to address the cloak instant as Sasuke was severely weakened and could hardly even use his Rinnegan, so he couldn't properly focus the flames.

Potent chakra or not, you brought up the subject of Ama burning through chakra. I'm not arguing against the capabilities of kagutsuchi and what it can do. What I'm saying is Ay tanked the effects of Ama, and in no way was he screaming in agonizing pain being burned, nor did it hinder his performance, and I already addressed him tanking Sasuke's chidori. The flame burns didn't phase him nor piercing, so the force of his kick would have been the same. Just at the cost of a limb, like he said. Sasuke was also very fatigued, with a untrained MS, so the scenarios are almost the same.

 

[ComplexCity]

Potent chakra or not, you brought up the subject of Ama burning through chakra. I'm not arguing against the capabilities of kagutsuchi and what it can do. What I'm saying is Ay tanked the effects of Ama, and in no way was he screaming in agonizing pain being burned, nor did it hinder his performance, and I already addressed him tanking Sasuke's chidori. The flame burns didn't phase him nor piercing, so the force of his kick would have been the same. Just at the cost of a limb, like he said. Sasuke was also very fatigued, with a untrained MS, so the scenarios are almost the same.

What's being argued is that Katsugchi along with Sussano would have totally negated G.Drop and the Raikage's leg would have been a fresh serving for KFC take out

 

[NarutoX28]

Potent chakra or not, you brought up the subject of Ama burning through chakra. I'm not arguing against the capabilities of kagutsuchi and what it can do. What I'm saying is Ay tanked the effects of Ama, and in no way was he screaming in agonizing pain being burned, nor did it hinder his performance, and I already addressed him tanking Sasuke's chidori. The flame burns didn't phase him nor piercing, so the force of his kick would have been the same. Just at the cost of a limb, like he said. Sasuke was also very fatigued, with a untrained MS, so the scenarios are almost the same.

My point is that Enton has shown the capability to burn through Raikage's Armor. Yes, he's not wincing in pain from just Enton, but Sasuke's Enton Kagutsuchi was highly focused and was design to pierce through Raikage's body. If Sasuke's Chidori (whose force was mostly diminished by Raikage's Armor) could partially jab through Raikage's body (slightly, admittedly), then Sasuke's Enton Kagutsuchi would've slaughted Raikage and pierced through his entire body.

If this was just Enton, I'd agree, he would've at least smashed through a good portion of Sasuke's Susano'o, but it's not, it's Enton Kagutsuchi that is condensed into lethal spikes.

 

[Remedy]

What's being argued is that Katsugchi along with Sussano would have totally negated G.Drop and the Raikage's leg would have been a fresh serving for KFC take out

That would arguing that is could insta-burn, which it obviously hasn't been shown to do.

 

[ComplexCity]

That would arguing that is could insta-burn, which it obviously hasn't been shown to do.

Hey don't take my word for it

Enton Kagutsuchi defenses were already added to his Susano'o
So, any increase in damage the Raikage is getting by adding gravity and speed to his attack is counterbalanced by this extra layer of defense in Sasuke's Susano'o, meaning it will do no further damage to Susano'o than the Liger Bomb and Chop did together, let alone damaging Sasuke to the point of death

 

[Remedy]

My point is that Enton has shown the capability to burn through Raikage's Armor. Yes, he's not wincing in pain from just Enton, but Sasuke's Enton Kagutsuchi was highly focused and was design to pierce through Raikage's body. If Sasuke's Chidori (whose force was mostly diminished by Raikage's Armor) could partially jab through Raikage's body (slightly, admittedly), then Sasuke's Enton Kagutsuchi would've slaughted Raikage and pierced through his entire body.

If this was just Enton, I'd agree, he would've at least smashed through a good portion of Sasuke's Susano'o, but it's not, it's Enton Kagutsuchi that is condensed into lethal spikes.

Based off what feats? Kagutsuchi has shown greater capabilities of slicing, than piercing. Zetsu wasn't pierced, even being forced through a wall. The concern on Sasuke's face upon being attacked wasn't for s&g, and it sure wasn't the look of confidence that his attack was going to succeed or not. if Kagutsuchi was more effective at piercing, Sasuke would've have favored that over chidori long ago. I have touched the subject with you about Ay's durability, even If kagutsuchi pierced him, it would not have stopped the momentum of his kick, and what damage it would have done. His leg would have simply been punctured through, but still coming down.

 

[Remedy]

Hey don't take my word for it

I see, though its all subjective. The concern on Sasuke's was not for s&g.

 

[ComplexCity]

I see, though its all subjective. The concern on Sasuke's was not for s&g.

S&G?


And I know it's subjective but it's being claimed to be objective. There's a difference

 

[NarutoX28]

Based off what feats? Kagutsuchi has shown greater capabilities of slicing, than piercing. Zetsu wasn't pierced, even being forced through a wall. The concern on Sasuke's face upon being attacked wasn't for s&g, and it sure wasn't the look of confidence that his attack was going to succeed or not. if Kagutsuchi was more effective at piercing, Sasuke would've have favored that over chidori long ago. I have touched the subject with you about Ay's durability, even If kagutsuchi pierced him, it would not have stopped the momentum of his kick, and what damage it would have done. His leg would have simply been punctured through, but still coming down.

He used it to pierce through the Juubi's Walls before he intended on slicing through it:

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Sasuke also wasn't concerned. His expression on his face was due to the fatigue caused of overusing the MS. Sasuke favors Raiton variants due to the fact that it doesn't require as much chakra and doesn't strain his body as much as Enton Kagutsuchi does. We saw that once he obtained the EMS, Enton Kagutsuchi was favored over Chidori.

 

[SenseiSama]

It's funny cuz these feats are EMS Sasuke feats for a start and ama can engulf a susano sword which is actually fully solid.

Raikage kick will get through flames regardless. Most retarded thing I've seen in so long. This isn't just a NV thing. Genuinly worry for some of you guys. Probably try to drink soil next. **** it.

Liquid = solids = gas in mass among other things while we're at it.

You're the retarded one for assuming EMS grants new abilities. EMS only granted Sasuke the power to utilize his MS feats with no side effects. Those spikes would have had the same effects as the Enton blade, it's the same shape manipulation he uses to make Susano'o weapons.


Raikage will kick through the flames then what ? He's already proven incapable of break Susano'o, he'll just be sitting there with his legs covered in Amaterasu and no way to stop it.

You're assumption that he can break the avatar when there's no manga scan of him doing so just makes you look like a typical hater that likes to wank on Naruto by downplaying Sasuke.

 

[NarutoX28]

As for the topic, I would think Enton possesses some form of mass or force when Nagato described the chakra build-up in Itachi's eyes as pressure .

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

You're the retarded one for assuming EMS grants new abilities. EMS only granted Sasuke the power to utilize his MS feats with no side effects. Those spikes would have had the same effects as the Enton blade, it's the same shape manipulation he uses to make Susano'o weapons.


Raikage will kick through the flames then what ? He's already proven incapable of break Susano'o, he'll just be sitting there with his legs covered in Amaterasu and no way to stop it.

You're assumption that he can break the avatar when there's no manga scan of him doing so just makes you look like a typical hater that likes to wank on Naruto by downplaying Sasuke.

I never said EMS grants new abilities you tool. I implied that it amplifies everything thanks to undying light. Same for SM. Buffs everywhere.

Barely incapable when he chops which is far inferior to his kick as I've stated before. I'm making a logical assumption based on manga facts. I've also stated I'm done debating with biased mongoloids so would you kindly piss off please. Thanks.

I'm neutral. I don't care for each character or this debate. Unlike you with your pants around your ankles having a hatred wank rn.

 

[Remedy]

He used it to pierce through the Juubi's Walls before he intended on slicing through it:

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Sasuke also wasn't concerned. His expression on his face was due to the fatigue caused of overusing the MS. Sasuke favors Raiton variants due to the fact that it doesn't require as much chakra and doesn't strain his body as much as Enton Kagutsuchi does. We saw that once he obtained the EMS, Enton Kagutsuchi was favored over Chidori.

You mean the same juubi byproduct Kiba cut through? As I said, its shown greater feats for slicing. Enton was his go to technique, but it wasn't for the same reason as chidori, it just had aoe for taking out mass number of enemies, something chidori doesn't have, he uses chidori more for 1v1. I've rested my case, so I'm not going to debate with you about if Sasuke was concerned or not, this is clearly up to the readers perception.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

You mean the same juubi byproduct Kiba cut through? As I said, its shown greater feats for slicing. Enton was his go to technique, but it wasn't for the same reason as chidori, it just had aoe for taking out mass number of enemies, something chidori doesn't have, he uses chidori more for 1v1. I've rested my case, so I'm not going to debate with you about if Sasuke was concerned or not, this is clearly up to the readers perception.

So you think he would have smashed through ama spikes?

 

[NarutoX28]

You mean the same juubi byproduct Kiba cut through? As I said, its shown greater feats for slicing. Enton was his go to technique, but it wasn't for the same reason as chidori, it just had aoe for taking out mass number of enemies, something chidori doesn't have, he uses chidori more for 1v1. I've rested my case, so I'm not going to debate with you about if Sasuke was concerned or not, this is clearly up to the readers perception.

The Juubi Wall was much thicker and more dense than what Kiba pierced through.

Chidori has AoE, that was shown before he pierced through the Juubi Wall yet Enton was a better choice.

I agree, Chidori is more effective at piercing, but under this circumstance where Enton bypasses Raikage's armor instantaneously, Enton Kagutsuchi is better.

 

[Remedy]

The Juubi Wall was much thicker and more dense than what Kiba pierced through.

Chidori has AoE, that was shown before he pierced through the Juubi Wall yet Enton was a better choice.

I agree, Chidori is more effective at piercing, but under this circumstance where Enton bypasses Raikage's armor instantaneously, Enton Kagutsuchi is better.

What Kiba cut through was virtually a juubi wall manifested into a body, juubi just has lackluster durability for tanking, which basing kagutsuchi piercing ability off that feat is not much speak for. Chidori aoe is not permanent lol

Glad we can agree on something.

 

[SenseiSama]

That would arguing that is could insta-burn, which it obviously hasn't been shown to do.

It doesn't insta-burn when cast alone, but when Sasuke focuses the flame it does, he instantly killed a dozen Zetsus with Enton, and regardless of whether it does or not, it insta-pierces and insta-attaches meaning Raikage would be covered in flames the second he comes into contact with them.

 

[SenseiSama]

I never said EMS grants new abilities you tool. I implied that it amplifies everything thanks to undying light. Same for SM. Buffs everywhere.

Barely incapable when he chops which is far inferior to his kick as I've stated before. I'm making a logical assumption based on manga facts. I've also stated I'm done debating with biased mongoloids so would you kindly piss off please. Thanks.

I'm neutral. I don't care for each character or this debate. Unlike you with your pants around your ankles having a hatred wank rn.

You say his kick is stronger when it's proven using his fists is more effective, why do you think he decided to punch Madara's Susano'o rather than kick it like Tsunade ?

His raiger bomb also has more damage capability than his kick since he's using his core strength rather than one body part, yet it had no effect.

He doesn't have the ability to break ribcage therefore Sasuke survives while he dies from the flames. It's simple logic I don't see why it's so hard to accept.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

You say his kick is stronger when it's proven using his fists is more effective, why do you think he decided to punch Madara's Susano'o rather than kick it like Tsunade ?

His raiger bomb also has more damage capability than his kick since he's using his core strength rather than one body part, yet it had no effect.

He doesn't have the ability to break ribcage therefore Sasuke survives while he dies from the flames. It's simple logic I don't see why it's so hard to accept.

Then why didn't he punch? Lmao go back to my arguments. How high do you think he can get so easily? XD

The bomb is just falling like half a metre you derp.

You have no proof. Just stop. Simple he says...not simple enough for you apparently. I'm done with logicless fapboys, now get lost. I'm not interested.

 

[Jiren]

TRUE nice thread bro.