Entertainment industry is going downhill

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There is alot he for me to agree with.

Music - i really see no way back for this. I've already payed my respects.

Movies- ... lets not count this one out. Yet. I'll admit that sequels are losing their touch, but then again sequels are really for the purpose of milking the success of the previous release....

Cartoons- I frankly don't give a shit, as long as my eyes do not see them then im blessed.

Games- This is just like the movies, in terms of the sequels. Especially when a sequel is being released year after year.

Bull^^ its always been about money.....thing nowadays is theirs a global recession kicking in so entertainment no longer has the same value as before cuz there is reduced investment in shows like in everything else.
This is exactly the main reason why music is in such a fail state right now.
Every artist is only looking to make a quick buck, instead of actually focusing on their music. Most simply take advantage of their popularity, knowing that fans will blindly listen to what ever they release.-.-
 

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There is alot he for me to agree with.

Music - i really see no way back for this. I've already payed my respects.

Movies- ... lets not count this one out. Yet. I'll admit that sequels are losing their touch, but then again sequels are really for the purpose of milking the success of the previous release....

Cartoons- I frankly don't give a shit, as long as my eyes do not see them then im blessed.

Games- This is just like the movies, in terms of the sequels. Especially when a sequel is being released year after year.

This is exactly the main reason why music is in such a fail state right now.
Every artist is only looking to make a quick buck, instead of actually focusing on their music. Most simply take advantage of their popularity, knowing that fans will blindly listen to what ever they release.-.-
that bolded part is very true and most likely every director nowadays in every section of entertainment industry thinks like that..and it's sad but well we can't do sh*t about it

Your 100% right about cartoons, I don't watch American shows on t.v like i used to now...
lol yeah...man they went wrong with cartoons..can't believe kids would like those current cartoons
 

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In the musics:
I agree, i hate the nowadays musics, its just rapers, and i think that the musics are always equal. I only listen to japanese music. (IT RULEZ!)
In the movies:
Agree cant say much of what you did, just that the ne movies are all about police and that things, that i dont like too. ^^
In the cartoons:
Only watch anime..... But there are channels that when i was young there were animes in it and now just sick cartoons that are for babys and that dont have a story... -.-"
In the games:
Sry but i cant agree with that, games today are completely awesome, but some of them have shit of stories, something that has been seen before, or just more and more games of the same thing. Ex: Sonic the hedgehog, sonic unleashed, sonic colors
 

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@Katsagu: yeah games are awesome nowadays too..but it seems that nothing new is been brought to the table..in '90's everything was new in that business and it was exciting to play consolegames and so on..but as I agree that gameindustry is still advancing and there are great games, but there are less fans of console/pc games and less diversity in what to choose...though Halo imo is fkin epic and awesome but I think the point of gaming and gameindustry has been lost at some point.
 

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Okay, so first of all I'm 21 and I'm still young, but I feel like I've seen/heard it all. Everything in the industry is becoming dull to me, and feels like producers, writers, directors are out of ideas. 'Cause everything good has been made already.

Music was at it's best in 80's, 90's and at the start of 21st century. Nowadays all an all it is just remixes of the old hits, Justin Bieber and Jonas Brothers taking all the spotlight in the radio and all the young talents whoring themselves to the music industry's commercial ideals. And when you really think about it, how can someone make lyrics for a song which hasn't been made already? All the topics have been sung and all the stories have been heard.

Movies, woah, where do I start there. I mean really, when was the last time something like Indiana Jones, Godfather, Forrest Gump, Terminator, Gladiator, Star Wars, American History X, Full Metal Jacket, Back to The Future and the classics like that has been made? It soon has been a decade since the Lorf of the Rings trilogy was made and after that there really hasn't been any reeally breathtaking movies. Departed, Dark Knight and Inception are exceptions.
I mean, there are talented actors but to me seems like the movie industry has lost it's "light" that it once had and new actors have pressure of filling shoes of great actors such as those seen in the previously mentioned films..Action movies are nothing more than as much as possible guns, explosions and overacted action scenes, example for that: Transformers movies.

Cartoons nowadays are the worst of them. Do you guys (18yrs -->) remember He-Man, Spiderman, TMNT, Chip N Dale, Ducktales, Gummybears, Biker Mice From Mars, Power Rangers (90's), Talespin and likes of those? WTF do we see nowadays kids watching from tv?! Super Hyper Pokemon and spacecheese sandwiches and all kinds of retarded stuff! I mean I pity today's kids 'cause they didn't get to see what we did.

Games
(console/pc). Well I don't see this part as much of a fail nowadays as the ones mentioned above. There are classics and present game industry is advancing at high pace, but still something is missing. It's not such of a big of deal to play console or pc games nowadays. Halo, CoD, Tekken are good but classic material? It's just sequals and remakes of old games.

Conclusion: All and all the entertaiment industry today is very lame, atleast for a guy at my age. I don't see myself thinking 10 years from now about present movies or songs, like I do now about the classic/hits from 70's -- > start of the millenium movies, songs and show's.

Discussion: What do you guys think? Do you agree and if so, how did it get to this? Is it going to get any better from here on or are the glory days history, forever...?


(btw I'm not depressed, opposite of that, I just honestly feel this way)
I agree with you dude 80's music is one of the best era's ever im sick of all the crap that passes as music these days what happened to all the real talent im sick of all these commercial artist that sell out for money clear examples linkin park Avril Lavigne. Yes the cartoons nowadays are shockingly average he-man was epic while i was growing up so was gargoyles the old school x-men and spiderman were epic plus while i was younger dragonall z was there that was my favourite for so long even pokemon used to be ok back before they continued it for longer then it should have been never mind this ben ten crap. Movies seem to be lessening in quality as well but there is still a few good ones amongst the majority of bad ones like Avatar it had amazing scenery a good movie to watch a little baked or not your preference dark knight brilliant acting by heath portrays the joker like he should be smarter then he seems and very psychotic at the same time i can't think of any others besides the ones you listed as well so what does that tell you. I feel that the best years for those things have all but passed us now our generation was biter sweet i must say decent music epic cartoons compared to the ones nowadays im glad i grew up in the generation i did
 
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that bolded part is very true and most likely every director nowadays in every section of entertainment industry thinks like that..and it's sad but well we can't do sh*t about it
When it comes to gaming, I used to buy the dbz games that were released year after year, too young and too much of a fan of the franchise i bought the games despite how the games hardly changed. So now i either buy the last one of the series or not at all if i don't like it.

But we are in a recession ( more or less ) so we can't blame them if the first and only thing on their minds is money.
 

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Okay, so first of all I'm 21 and I'm still young, but I feel like I've seen/heard it all. Everything in the industry is becoming dull to me, and feels like producers, writers, directors are out of ideas. 'Cause everything good has been made already.

Music was at it's best in 80's, 90's and at the start of 21st century. Nowadays all an all it is just remixes of the old hits, Justin Bieber and Jonas Brothers taking all the spotlight in the radio and all the young talents whoring themselves to the music industry's commercial ideals. And when you really think about it, how can someone make lyrics for a song which hasn't been made already? All the topics have been sung and all the stories have been heard.

Movies, woah, where do I start there. I mean really, when was the last time something like Indiana Jones, Godfather, Forrest Gump, Terminator, Gladiator, Star Wars, American History X, Full Metal Jacket, Back to The Future and the classics like that has been made? It soon has been a decade since the Lorf of the Rings trilogy was made and after that there really hasn't been any reeally breathtaking movies. Departed, Dark Knight and Inception are exceptions.
I mean, there are talented actors but to me seems like the movie industry has lost it's "light" that it once had and new actors have pressure of filling shoes of great actors such as those seen in the previously mentioned films..Action movies are nothing more than as much as possible guns, explosions and overacted action scenes, example for that: Transformers movies.

Cartoons nowadays are the worst of them. Do you guys (18yrs -->) remember He-Man, Spiderman, TMNT, Chip N Dale, Ducktales, Gummybears, Biker Mice From Mars, Power Rangers (90's), Talespin and likes of those? WTF do we see nowadays kids watching from tv?! Super Hyper Pokemon and spacecheese sandwiches and all kinds of retarded stuff! I mean I pity today's kids 'cause they didn't get to see what we did.

Games
(console/pc). Well I don't see this part as much of a fail nowadays as the ones mentioned above. There are classics and present game industry is advancing at high pace, but still something is missing. It's not such of a big of deal to play console or pc games nowadays. Halo, CoD, Tekken are good but classic material? It's just sequals and remakes of old games.

Conclusion: All and all the entertaiment industry today is very lame, atleast for a guy at my age. I don't see myself thinking 10 years from now about present movies or songs, like I do now about the classic/hits from 70's -- > start of the millenium movies, songs and show's.

Discussion: What do you guys think? Do you agree and if so, how did it get to this? Is it going to get any better from here on or are the glory days history, forever...?


(btw I'm not depressed, opposite of that, I just honestly feel this way)
Where to start. First of all, the music industry is dying, to an extent. Justin Bieber, isn't exactly the GREATEST musician in the world, like most people make him out to be. However, some indie bands, having their own style, are creating actually good music. Honestly, I disagree with music peaking in the 80's. In my humble opinion, I believe, while some of the 80's were good, that is when the fall of music started. 90's was better than the 80's. In my opinion


On to movies. The very fact that you mentioned The Dark Knight, and Inception, which are pretty recent movies, says something about the movie industry. Movies ARE getting better. However, for right now, we have to deal with it. And just to point this out, 3-D is the equivalent of AutoTune.


Now to games. As I have been gaming most of my life, I'll be able to speak a bit more here. I agree with you, again, to an extent. Halo, will most likely never become classic material, neither will Call of Duty. LoZ is being worn out, as well as the Mario games. People try to push the gaming industry to make bigger and better games, but in truth, it's hard. Games are HARD to make. That's why Gaming companies prefer to make long lasting games with multi-player. Games like Minecraft though, are amazing in there own way. I love Minecraft. Companies like Valve, are in the hot seat because, they made good games, and are able to create good sequals.


Cartoons. Oh, glorious cartoons. I grew up watching pretty much every cartoon I could. I wholeheartedly agree with you here. Though Anime is now getting big and, I love anime.

Conclusions. The entertainment industry isn't dying, it's getting harder and harder to make things. Everything has pretty much been made. Though I feel that things will get better here in the next ten years.

Cartoons theme songs ;D.
 

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Where to start. First of all, the music industry is dying, to an extent. Justin Bieber, isn't exactly the GREATEST musician in the world, like most people make him out to be. However, some indie bands, having their own style, are creating actually good music. Honestly, I disagree with music peaking in the 80's. In my humble opinion, I believe, while some of the 80's were good, that is when the fall of music started. 90's was better than the 80's. In my opinion
Well so much differences within styles in 80's and 90's so I can't really compare but I like 90's better too. But legends were made in 80's.

On to movies. The very fact that you mentioned The Dark Knight, and Inception, which are pretty recent movies, says something about the movie industry. Movies ARE getting better. However, for right now, we have to deal with it. And just to point this out, 3-D is the equivalent of AutoTune.
My point is that, there is too few great movies nowadays.
Now to games. As I have been gaming most of my life, I'll be able to speak a bit more here. I agree with you, again, to an extent. Halo, will most likely never become classic material, neither will Call of Duty. LoZ is being worn out, as well as the Mario games. People try to push the gaming industry to make bigger and better games, but in truth, it's hard. Games are HARD to make. That's why Gaming companies prefer to make long lasting games with multi-player. Games like Minecraft though, are amazing in there own way. I love Minecraft. Companies like Valve, are in the hot seat because, they made good games, and are able to create good sequals.
You gotta good point there and I agree. Seems that Live (xbox) compability and multiplayer mode is the part where game makers are focusing and that sucks.Although Halo for example is awesome when playing on Xbox Live.

Cartoons. Oh, glorious cartoons. I grew up watching pretty much every cartoon I could. I wholeheartedly agree with you here. Though Anime is now getting big and, I love anime.
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Conclusions. The entertainment industry isn't dying, it's getting harder and harder to make things. Everything has pretty much been made. Though I feel that things will get better here in the next ten years.
Basically your meaning the same thing as I am, just stating it with different words. And I agree with what you say, but I think that's also the reason for entertainments downfall and people will just seek comfort from old classics lol

Cartoons theme songs ;D.
Awesome!! : D 80's and 90's cartoons FTW!
 

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Nah. You just don't look out of the box from mainstream.

Music - Blame parents for letting kids be f-gs and letting them listen to Kesha, Lil Wayne, and Justin Beiber. Lot's of good Artists are out there just not popular or mainstream.

Movies - The movies you mentioned are also mainstream, so try watching Indie movies more often, try, "Wristcutters: a love story." Pretty cool movie.

Cartoons - If you were 5, the current cartoons would feel the same way as watching Old cartoons. So it's just you.

Games - Awesome, if you like classics, play classics. Every game is based of originals, with Major or Minor changes. So... :p Nope, get over it. Busting out new "concepts" sure, but you shouldn't expect them.
 

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Nah. You just don't look out of the box from mainstream.
Mainstream is pretty much what defines the consept of "entertainment industry"..And it's the majority of entertainment business. Plus all the mainstream music,movies and games are produced by using lots and lots of money. So if money can't make them do awesome entertainment like before, than mainstream aka entertainment industry fails.

Music - Blame parents for letting kids be f-gs and letting them listen to Kesha, Lil Wayne, and Justin Beiber. Lot's of good Artists are out there just not popular or mainstream.
Being potentially talented doesn't mean a good entertainer. Usually that's why they aren't in the mainstream 'cause they are "raw" versions of mainstream talents. Again, most of ent. industry is mainstream, so if that fails, it doesn't matter if a small portion has got the potential. I'm talking about the whole picture here.


Movies - The movies you mentioned are also mainstream, so try watching Indie movies more often, try, "Wristcutters: a love story." Pretty cool movie.
Never seen one but I can see why they aren't mainstream movies. They do not entertain majority of people. Get your point though.


Cartoons - If you were 5, the current cartoons would feel the same way as watching Old cartoons. So it's just you.
True. But I'm not viewing this from a 5 year olds point of view. They have the lack of intelligence plus they can't judge current cartoons without seeing earlier ones. I on the other hand can 'cause I've witnessed two or tree generations of cartoons. So it's not just me. Plus you can go to youtube and look for the main theme videos for the cartoons I mentioned. In every single one of them there are people same as me stating that: "cartoons nowadays are such crap comparing to what they used to be"



Games - Awesome, if you like classics, play classics. Every game is based of originals, with Major or Minor changes. So... :p Nope, get over it. Busting out new "concepts" sure, but you shouldn't expect them.
Point was, that the new games aren't classic material. The whole game industry is different nowadays with online multiplayer networks and such.

So my point still is entertainment industry and especially the mainstream part of it is going downhill.
 

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It'n not the Entertainment, it;s because of the of the majority of viewers love this stuff. They eat it up. And don't blame the directors. It's the people with the money that are calling the shots, sadly. Thats why independent films tend to be better.
 

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It'n not the Entertainment, it;s because of the of the majority of viewers love this stuff. They eat it up. And don't blame the directors. It's the people with the money that are calling the shots, sadly. Thats why independent films tend to be better.
Yeah but it's only the kids under 18 who love it. Most of the dudes in my ageclass think the same as me. As far as I know. I used to love going to the movies, but naah, not anymore. It's just dull to me as I said.

And I kinda blame the directors, yeah ofcourse they have huge pressure from their movie company, but still..if one director has managed to direct two awesome movies (pretty much only great movies from last 10 years), Dark Knight and Inception then why haven't the others managed to do the same? Like in 80's and 90's there were much more of great movies, as I listed. Now just two in the last 10 years, lol.

But yeah ofcourse the main reason is the kids who love the gay and pointless storyline movies. And sh*tty music. Their the majority customers here. But again this is from my point of view, as a 21 year old. Soon 22.
 
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The entertainment industry is just getting started, when the era of movies, games, cartoons, music, etc... is done, something else will be put out there. These are all things that keep us distracted of what's really going on in the world, the industry WILL, no matter what continue it's "entertainment".
 

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I agree, everything is starting to become shyt nowadays. Cartoons are the worse now, nickelodeon and Disney barely shows cartoons, epscecially no goods. Movies are depending on technology too much (3D and HD) and fail with the storyline and acts. I haven't seen a really good horror film in idk how long. Games idk some are decent still, so I can't really go in on them. Music is all about gimmicks and false talent. Music now just includes a good beat, since dancing is taking over everything.
 

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Yeah our entertainment industry is definitely going downhill. Music to me was probably the biggest change. Everything has gone from real people who can sing to people singing half-assed & trying to be as raunchy on stage as possible with uncalled for outfits. Good thing i can listen to real music like some old school Boyz II Men :D
 
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