[Discussion] Enel stomps luffy and Akainu... well old luffy .....

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Enel should have been able to one shot luffy in their battle I think Oda wrote himself in a corner and had to do some ass pull to have luffy win and here's why

the simple fact is luffy shouldn't be immune to his lightning even if he is rubber. Rubber is indeed an insulator but there is no such thing as a perfect insulator. ALL MATTER CONDUCTS ELECTRICITY WITH A HIGH ENOUGH VOLTAGE. Rubber can only take so much before it goes through electrical breakdown and becomes a conductor and that limit is way below 200 million volt's (enel's max) the biggest proof I can offer you is that enel easily sends his attacks through the air which has way higher dielectric strength (the factor is determining how well a insulator works) than RUBBER does...

lets not even mention the fact that lightning can reach temperatures 5 times greater than the sun....why doesn't luffy melt and why didn't he melt when he was hit by Akainu. Akainu should lose to Enel if he is not using Haki

I mean we all know current luffy is a different story with Haki and all thats a toss up I don't know how well haki conducts electricity so there's no telling...

My point is Oda should have thought a little more about the fight and not that ass pull shit that happened
 
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Well Luffy won simply because he had a stronger heart, a stronger will, the right motive. even if he's rubber and enel's lighting. he overcame that shiet.
because people who think like Luffy and have the heart like him, over power their enemy because its mind>matter.
you know? kinda.

Luffy just had a stronger will, so he beat the shit out of Enel.
But ya, Enel was strong and I wasnt really expecting Luffy to win^^ but he did~
 

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In all honesty, Enel's DF is easily one of the most powerful.
Yeah I know. Akainu stated that his fruit was superior to Ace's because he can burn even fire, so the superiority is due to higher heat. Lightning is hotter than magma, so Enel should be able to do to Akainu what he did to Ace. If Enel had some decent Armament Haki, he'd definitely be Admiral level or above.
 
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Yeah I know. Akainu stated that his fruit was superior to Ace's because he can burn even fire, so the superiority is due to higher heat. Lightning is hotter than magma, so Enel should be able to do to Akainu what he did to Ace. If Enel had some decent Armament Haki, he'd definitely be Admiral level or above.
Oh without a doubt. In addition to being a powerful DF even by Logia standards it also have versatility it wasn't purely destruction.
 

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Oh without a doubt. In addition to being a powerful DF even by Logia standards it also have versatility it wasn't purely destruction.
Combined with Enel's already god-like, no pun intended, Observation Haki, Enel was nigh omniscient. The only reason he lost on Skypeia was because he happened to meet the only person capable of withstanding his attacks completely. The capabilities of controlling electricity is endless, from controlling the pulses in someone's brain to reading minds. If Oda went as far as he possibly could with Enel's fruit, Enel could read minds, control the decisions people make, even shut down their bodies completely and kill them.
 

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Combined with Enel's already god-like, no pun intended, Observation Haki, Enel was nigh omniscient. The only reason he lost on Skypeia was because he happened to meet the only person capable of withstanding his attacks completely. The capabilities of controlling electricity is endless, from controlling the pulses in someone's brain to reading minds. If Oda went as far as he possibly could with Enel's fruit, Enel could read minds, control the decisions people make, even shut down their bodies completely and kill them.
Haha a god defeated by a condom.

Kind of poetic.
 

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Yea your right thunder would melt rubber but not in the one piece world and that's where it matters. But Enel DF is the strongest ever actually I think blackbeards darkness fruit is the stronger.


Anyway I agree with this thread but I have to understand it's the OP world
 

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Yea your right thunder would melt rubber but not in the one piece world and that's where it matters. But Enel DF is the strongest ever actually I think blackbeards darkness fruit is the stronger.


Anyway I agree with this thread but I have to understand it's the OP world
yeah no Blackbeards main advantage is that he can negate your powers if he touches you but the downside is he can be hit sill so really enel just needs to fight long distance one or two el thors are more than overkill for BB well before timeskip now we have no idea what he is like
 

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Yes I agree I think his df is extremely hax 2nd best logia next to yami yami and if he had Armament haki he would be admiral level
can't use irl logic to the OPverse thou
 

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Haki punch would kill Enel

Seriously for a guy who is lightening, he moves pretty slow.

Enel gave his highest voltage and he got blitzed in a few occasions.

Akainu would be just another rapefest
 

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I definitely think Enel's fruit has superiority over Akainu's, but Oda doesn't follow exact logic with DF's.
Not this again...


Yeah the Goro Goro no Mi is probably the strongest Logia. But Rubber INSULATES electric currents, so Luffy would remain unaffected. No asspulls, just an exaggeration of real life situations.


For Enel to defeat Akainu, firstly we would need to determine the temperature of Enels lightning, as it can range from approximately 30,000°C to approximately 6,000°C. Magma temperatures range from between 1,500°C to 7,000°C. So depending on the temperature of the Lightning he could stomp Sakazuki (DF's alone) OR be stomped by Sakazuki (DF's alone).


Next Enel will need to have Busoshoku Haki on the same level as Sakazuki (or higher). As far as we know Enel cannot even use Busoshoku Haki, so basically he can't harm Sakazuki and therefore under no circumstances; win. I also have suspicions that the Admiral tier characters all have superior Kenbushoku Haki than Enel anyways.
 
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