Ending the Kisame vs Jiraiya debate

[Blaze Release]

I've read all of it

I have just finished savoring it all, seems legit well done dood

Nice . Hopefully people would also read it and see what im trying to say U_U

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

I say that jiraiya is at least equal to kisame. Worst case scenario jiraiya summons a frog and has it reverse summon him back to mount myoboku.

 

[Blaze Release]

I say that jiraiya is at least equal to kisame. Worst case scenario jiraiya summons a frog and has it reverse summon him back to mount myoboku.

They are very equal, but whilst kisame can upgrade in an istant giving him the advantage, he should take this

 

[Viewtiful]

The fact that Kisame believes Jiraiya's "on a greater level" than he is trumps anything that we believe. That is all.

 

[Blaze Release]

The fact that Kisame believes Jiraiya's "on a greater level" than he is trumps anything that we believe. That is all.

*sigh* the fools on this site are too much. If you read atleast the first paragraph you'd withhold from posting this U_U

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

i like when some one makes a thread "ending" all other threads with theirs i give you credit you did a lot of work but people will still think what they want to because of itachi saying what he said

also i didnt read any of it but i say jaman sage mode kisame cant suck sage chakra he will turn into a frog like that one pain did

if anything that would just leave them at a stalemate because kisame's water>jiraiya's fire, frog kata isn't strong enough to put kisame down and his summons would get eaten or smashed and like blaze said in the thread you don't bother reading being underwater counters Jiraiya's only genjutsu.

 

[yassircruz06]

Nice thread.

 

[Blaze Release]

if anything that would just leave them at a stalemate because kisame's water>jiraiya's fire, frog kata isn't strong enough to put kisame down and his summons would get eaten or smashed and like blaze said in the thread you don't bother reading being underwater counters Jiraiya's only genjutsu.

+ rep seems like you read both scenario's. There is hope on nb after all U_U

By the way blaze keep your chin up dude.

best debater on narutobase

+ rep

Thanks, i think but there are others U_U

 

[Owarij]

read it all, everything is just about spot out correct, I really wish the whole of nb could use some sort of logic when claiming who wins between two characters....

rep +

Re: Ending the Kisame vs Jiraiya debate
The fact that Kisame believes Jiraiya's "on a greater level" than he is trumps anything that we believe. That is all.

Kisame made that judgement on their title of sannin.....he would have said the same for oro or tsunade... he knows nothing of their power.. just that they are feared

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

I doubt jiraiya would actually fight in the water, he'd most likely summon a big toad to springboard him out

 

[Viewtiful]

Am I really going to have to post this again? -_-" Kisame didn't say that he would lose to Jiraiya because he was one of the Sannin. He literally said that Jiraiya himself was above him. He said that their names would be besmirched by that of the Sannin. I'm honestly tired of posting this literal translation.


Kisame: "He's an opponent you might somehow be able to beat, but for me, I don't know… He's a different level." (｢アナタならどうにかこうにかやれる相手でも私じゃあ分かりませんよ…次元が違う。｣, "Anata nara dō ni ka kō ni ka yareru aite demo watashi jaa wakarimasen yo… Jigen ga chigau.")

Itachi: "Yeah… If we were to fight him, we might both be killed. If things go well, it might become a tie. this probably won't change if we were to increase our numbers." (「ああ…やり合えば二人共殺されるか。良くて相打ちというところ…たとえ人数を増やしたとしても変わらないだろう。」, "Aa… yariaeba futaritomo korosareru ka. Yokute aiuchi to iu tokoro …Tatoe ninzū o fuyashita toshite mo kawaranai darō.")

Kisame: "It was good that we finally found him at the ramen shop, but… his babysitter is of those 'Legendary Three Shinobi'. With him as our opponent, even the names of Konoha's Uchiha clan and Kiri's Seven Shinobi Swordsmen would be overshadowed." (｢ラーメン屋で　やっと見付けたはいいが…お守りが　あの"伝説の三忍"とは。彼が相手では"木ノ葉のうちは一族"も"霧の忍刀七人衆"の名もかすんでしまう。｣, "Rāmenya de yatto mitsuketa wa ii ga… Omori ga ano 'Densetsu no Sannin' to wa. Kare ga aite de wa 'Konoha no Uchiha Ichizoku' mo 'Kiri no Shinobigatana Shichininshū' no na mo kasunde shimau.")

Itachi: "Yeah… But…" (｢ああ…しかし……｣, "Aa… Shikashi……")

Kisame: "…" (｢………｣, "………")

Itachi: "No matter how strong a person is, he will have a weakness…" (｢どんな強者にも弱点というのがあるものだ……｣, "Donna kyōsha ni mo jakuten to iu no ga aru mono da……")



If we can't believe what a character who has not been shown to be a liar says, and is in fact quite prideful in his own abilities, discussing with you is essentially pointless. U_U

 

[Blaze Release]

Spoiler

Am I really going to have to post this again? -_-" Kisame didn't say that he would lose to Jiraiya because he was one of the Sannin. He literally said that Jiraiya himself was above him. He said that their names would be besmirched by that of the Sannin. I'm honestly tired of posting this literal translation.


Kisame: "He's an opponent you might somehow be able to beat, but for me, I don't know… He's a different level." (｢アナタならどうにかこうにかやれる相手でも私じゃあ分かりませんよ…次元が違う。｣, "Anata nara dō ni ka kō ni ka yareru aite demo watashi jaa wakarimasen yo… Jigen ga chigau.")
Itachi: "Yeah… If we were to fight him, we might both be killed. If things go well, it might become a tie. this probably won't change if we were to increase our numbers." (「ああ…やり合えば二人共殺されるか。良くて相打ちというところ…たとえ人数を増やしたとしても変わらないだろう。」, "Aa… yariaeba futaritomo korosareru ka. Yokute aiuchi to iu tokoro …Tatoe ninzū o fuyashita toshite mo kawaranai darō.")
Kisame: "It was good that we finally found him at the ramen shop, but… his babysitter is of those 'Legendary Three Shinobi'. With him as our opponent, even the names of Konoha's Uchiha clan and Kiri's Seven Shinobi Swordsmen would be overshadowed." (｢ラーメン屋で　やっと見付けたはいいが…お守りが　あの"伝説の三忍"とは。彼が相手では"木ノ葉のうちは一族"も"霧の忍刀七人衆"の名もかすんでしまう。｣, "Rāmenya de yatto mitsuketa wa ii ga… Omori ga ano 'Densetsu no Sannin' to wa. Kare ga aite de wa 'Konoha no Uchiha Ichizoku' mo 'Kiri no Shinobigatana Shichininshū' no na mo kasunde shimau.")
Itachi: "Yeah… But…" (｢ああ…しかし……｣, "Aa… Shikashi……")
Kisame: "…" (｢………｣, "………")
Itachi: "No matter how strong a person is, he will have a weakness…" (｢どんな強者にも弱点というのがあるものだ……｣, "Donna kyōsha ni mo jakuten to iu no ga aru mono da……")



If we can't believe what a character who has not been shown to be a liar says, and is in fact quite prideful in his own abilities, discussing with you is essentially pointless. U_U

Since you didnt read the paragraph and you are posting exactly what i said, id call you a troll. Now i havent reported anybody before but if you decide to post again ill report you as a troll. Its best you leave U_U

 

[Prince Charles]

very nice thread im never disapointed with yours blazes ill +rep you again but you can never say who truly wins in this these cases because its up to kishi and the moves that are going to be used by each opponent

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

again those toads in the water are much less mobile than you think.

they would be food for kisame and his sharks

No, as long as they are near the ground or kisame they can kick away from him as kisame will always be at the center. You've seen how good they can jump too I presume

 

[Easyfathom]

Really liked your opinions and stuff... But when reading what you put, most of the time I find myself getting a little agitated bit by bit as I continue reading. This is due to you saying things like "this is bound to explode", your argument for me starts to lose credibility. However I really do enjoy ready your stuff and I accept your thoughts and opinions.
By the way, I personally feel that Kisame would beat Jiraiya. however, I think that J-man would beat Itachi
+rep either way

 

[Viewtiful]

[/SPOILER]

Since you didnt read the paragraph and you are posting exactly what i said, id call you a troll. Now i havent reported anybody before but if you decide to post again ill report you as a troll. Its best you leave U_U

I was responding to Owariji, who was trying to tell me something that was incorrect. U_U

 

[Viewtiful]

your conception?

Nice trolling. Or not.

 

[Blaze Release]

It took me ages to create this if you didnt read and did exactly the opposite of what i said its best you leave. I dont want this thread to turn into a flame thread were it gets closed U_U

 

[TheSages456]

i read the whole description

well if jiraiya went into sm and kisame fused with samehada. kisame would naturally go to jiraiya and try to absorb his chakra and we all know how that would turn out.

even if kisame had knowledge of this and didnt try to absorb his chakra that takes away one of kisames main abilities. jiraiya would have all the chakra necessary to try and get out of the water dome as kisame cant take his chakra.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

only in the air. not in water

They are frogs, and seeing as how they are birthed in water I would assume they have better mobility there