EMS Sasuke vs Puppet Users

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Sasuke vs Sasori Chiyo & Kankuro

Restrictions - Perfect susanoo
Conditions - But he can use his standing susanoo
Location - Open grassy area
 

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lmao, horrible stomp in Sasuke's favor.
 

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Lmao U_U Why just ....why

Sasuke wins...
 

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idk why i thought this would be close should have restrict susanoo legs
 

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Restrict Susanoo's legs and its still a terrible stomp. Sasuke doesn't even need to move to kill these 3 with ease.
 

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Restrict Susanoo's legs and its still a terrible stomp. Sasuke doesn't even need to move to kill these 3 with ease.

This, Sasuke solo's with Rib cage and Enton Orb.:|:|
 

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Restrict Susanoo's legs and its still a terrible stomp. Sasuke doesn't even need to move to kill these 3 with ease.

Eh why not...

If he can't move how's he getting around a wall of IS?
 

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Eh why not...

If he can't move how's he getting around a wall of IS?


He'd have to form a large enough quantity of IS fast enough to block an arrow headed straight for him at speeds that Kakashi couldn't even evade. Not to mention reach sizes close to that of .

It'd rip through whatever sand he was able to gather and destroy his Kazekage puppet. From there on its easy pickings.

Or he can just spam Enton, heat up the atmosphere and end it with Kirin.
 

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He'd have to form a large enough quantity of IS fast enough to block an arrow headed straight for him at speeds that Kakashi couldn't even evade. Not to mention reach sizes close to that of .

It'd rip through whatever sand he was able to gather and destroy his Kazekage puppet. From there on its easy pickings.

Or he can just spam Enton, heat up the atmosphere and end it with Kirin.

Its not ripping through IS when it couldn't even rip through Weak Wood Style , And what state can he use the Susano bow in?

As i'm rather certain he could get the right amount of sand up..... and like i said, the Enton arrow width wise is not that large, so its doubftul it would pierce Sasori's core if he were to move, and from there he would keep the wall up at all times...
 

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Its not ripping through IS when it couldn't even rip through Weak Wood Style , And what state can he use the Susano bow in?

As i'm rather certain he could get the right amount of sand up..... and like i said, the Enton arrow width wise is not that large, so its doubftul it would pierce Sasori's core if he were to move, and from there he would keep the wall up at all times...

It already ripped right through Danzo's Mokuton, so your rebuttal doesn't make any sense. Unless you have a scan of it failing to do so. He can use the bow in Stages and .

lol, not a chance. He isn't going to gather enough sand to block a Bijuu sized arrow coming at him at speeds Kakashi couldn't physically react to. Not. A. Chance.


1. A small arrow's width was enough to completely pierce Danzo's chest and stomach. This one is much bigger and its made of Amaterasu. It'll pierce Sasori and light him on fire, thus killing him if it hits unless he evades it completely, which he isn't doing.

2. Never said he'd try and hit Sasori, he clearly said that he'd aim for the puppet, once the Kazekage puppet is destroyed, no more Iron Sand for Sasori, and then he's pretty much a fodder to Sasuke after that. Then again its not like it matters who he goes after as whoever he goes after dies.
 

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It already ripped right through Danzo's Mokuton, so your rebuttal doesn't make any sense. Unless you have a scan of it failing to do so. He can use the bow in Stages and .

lol, not a chance. He isn't going to gather enough sand to block a Bijuu sized arrow coming at him at speeds Kakashi couldn't physically react to. Not. A. Chance.


1. A small arrow's width was enough to completely pierce Danzo's chest and stomach. This one is much bigger and its made of Amaterasu. It'll pierce Sasori and light him on fire, thus killing him if it hits unless he evades it completely, which he isn't doing.

2. Never said he'd try and hit Sasori, he clearly said that he'd aim for the puppet, once the Kazekage puppet is destroyed, no more Iron Sand for Sasori, and then he's pretty much a fodder to Sasuke after that. Then again its not like it matters who he goes after as whoever he goes after dies.

*sigh* Puppets are easily react-able, they were able to react to attack that could even be considered faster and was even able to react by lifting arms, with an attack that broke the sound barrier Granted these were Chiyo's and the difference does depend on your skill with puppets, ...But come on Sasori's skill>Chiyo's, So it is not too far fetched to say that the 3rd Kazekage could avoid this, especially since its in the air.

Lighting Sasori on fire is rather useless, his core would then leave the body

Although don't these larger ones take more time to utilize >.>


I thought the mokuton blocked it ...
 

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*sigh* Puppets are easily react-able, they were able to react to attack that could even be considered faster and was even able to react by lifting arms, with an attack that broke the sound barrier Granted these were Chiyo's and the difference does depend on your skill with puppets, ...But come on Sasori's skill>Chiyo's, So it is not too far fetched to say that the 3rd Kazekage could avoid this, especially since its in the air.

Its too late in the night for me to be reading this BS.

So you are telling me Sasori's attacks are faster than Susanoo arrows despite someone faster than Chiyo not being able to react to the arrow while Chiyo reacted to this attack? Slap yourself. Satestu Shigure is slower than Susanoo arrows, considering Chiyo was able to block it and the puppet was able to get Sakura out of the way before the attack hit. [ ]

Doesn't matter if all her and her puppets did was raise their arms, they were fast enough to react while a faster person with Sharingan Precognition wasn't able to do so, meaning? This attack is slower than Susanoo arrow. Don't know why you try to debate otherwise every single time despite manga disagreeing.

I really hope you aren't saying Sasori's puppet is going to evade Susanoo arrow.......


Lighting Sasori on fire is rather useless, his core would then leave the body

If he is pierced with the arrow he'd obviously be on fire inside and outside, meaning his core is lit up as well.

Although don't these larger ones take more time to utilize >.>
There is nothing that leads to that conclusion.


I thought the mokuton blocked it ...

 

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Its too late in the night for me to be reading this BS.

So you are telling me Sasori's attacks are faster than Susanoo arrows despite someone faster than Chiyo not being able to react to the arrow while Chiyo reacted to this attack? Slap yourself. Satestu Shigure is slower than Susanoo arrows, considering Chiyo was able to block it and the puppet was able to get Sakura out of the way before the attack hit. [ ]

Doesn't matter if all her and her puppets did was raise their arms, they were fast enough to react while a faster person with Sharingan Precognition wasn't able to do so, meaning? This attack is slower than Susanoo arrow. Don't know why you try to debate otherwise every single time despite manga disagreeing.

I really hope you aren't saying Sasori's puppet is going to evade Susanoo arrow.......




If he is pierced with the arrow he'd obviously be on fire inside and outside, meaning his core is lit up as well.


There is nothing that leads to that conclusion.





Why do you un-reasonably compare the two? Chiyo is a more experienced, and battle tested Shinobi then Kakashi, so whose to say she doesn't have better mental reaction feats ...(MENTAL)

Kakashi lifting a finger wasn't going to help him here, so there really is no point in comparing the two ...EVER, the fact Chiyo was able to block and doge at the same time is because she had two hands :| Controlling two puppets...

I really am saying SASORI's puppet can avoid a Susano'o arrow...

What does it matter if the inside gets lit up too? Its wood... he can still hop out just as easily.

Also wait, were you suggesting that these enton arrows are ripping through the IS ? ...as that's just plain BS
 

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Why do you un-reasonably compare the two? Chiyo is a more experienced, and battle tested Shinobi then Kakashi, so whose to say she doesn't have better mental reaction feats ...(MENTAL)

So an old lady is going to have better mental reflexes than Kakashi? Lmao, you can't even be serious with this nonsense...

Kakashi lifting a finger wasn't going to help him here, so there really is no point in comparing the two ...EVER, the fact Chiyo was able to block and doge at the same time is because she had two hands :| Controlling two puppets...
Chiyo clearly did more than lift a finger, she had to lift her arm, and activate her shield, which requires time, not much, but every split second counts.

I hope you aren't going to try and twist this situation to try and say puppets can evade Susanoo arrow, cause I'll just say the same thing. You make no sense.

So what if all it takes is to move a finger, the actual puppet has to move for the dodge to be successful, something that isn't happening against a Susanoo arrow. You'd have to be a tard to believe Sasori's puppet can evade a Susanoo arrow lmao.

Her controlling two puppets doesn't change my point, the puppet was still able to react just like she was while Kakashi wasn't able to. Manga fact. Any other opinion you have on the matter is pretty much null and void according to the manga I read.

Its a fact that Kakashi couldn't react but you are telling me Chiyo can.....not even sure if serious.

I really am saying SASORI's puppet can avoid a Susano'o arrow...
Log off then.

What does it matter if the inside gets lit up too? Its wood... he can still hop out just as easily.
If the arrow pierces his whole body everything is getting lit up. INCLUDING HIS CORE. How hard is that to understand?

Also wait, were you suggesting that these enton arrows are ripping through the IS ? ...as that's just plain BS

Enton Arrow>Susanoo Arrow>IS. So yes, its tearing right through IS as long it hasn't gathered in a large enough quantity, which it isn't doing.

What durability feats does IS have anyway?
 

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Susanno arrow shouldn't have any trouble with Iron sand...
 

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So an old lady is going to have better mental reflexes than Kakashi? Lmao, you can't even be serious with this nonsense...


Chiyo clearly did more than lift a finger, she had to lift her arm, and activate her shield, which requires time, not much, but every split second counts.

I hope you aren't going to try and twist this situation to try and say puppets can evade Susanoo arrow, cause I'll just say the same thing. You make no sense.

So what if all it takes is to move a finger, the actual puppet has to move for the dodge to be successful, something that isn't happening against a Susanoo arrow. You'd have to be a tard to believe Sasori's puppet can evade a Susanoo arrow lmao.

Her controlling two puppets doesn't change my point, the puppet was still able to react just like she was while Kakashi wasn't able to. Manga fact. Any other opinion you have on the matter is pretty much null and void according to the manga I read.

Its a fact that Kakashi couldn't react but you are telling me Chiyo can.....not even sure if serious.


Log off then.


If the arrow pierces his whole body everything is getting lit up. INCLUDING HIS CORE. How hard is that to understand?



Enton Arrow>Susanoo Arrow>IS. So yes, its tearing right through IS as long it hasn't gathered in a large enough quantity, which it isn't doing.

What durability feats does IS have anyway?

:| Oh god, the fact that they only have to move a finger means they can react quicker and thus they are able to move earlier in the attack sequence, not necessarily speed, although they are rather fast a fact which is often overlooked,

And clearly Chiyo's mental reactions are not all that bad as she was mentally able to realize the gaps between the senbon then dodge and weave her way through, .... The fact that you find it so absurd that someone older, and whose mind is probably sharper then Kakashi's has lesser Mental reflexes is rather un-nerving ....
Since Puppetry is mostly mental reactions it doesn't really matter,

Also, Please do know that when she pushed Sakura out of the way, that was NOT when she used her own arm to shield herself she used the puppets....


It tanked a punch from Sakura with no dents or anything

Pretty good Durability feat, and as you can see she used CES
 

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:| Oh god, the fact that they only have to move a finger means they can react quicker and thus they are able to move earlier in the attack sequence, not necessarily speed, although they are rather fast a fact which is often overlooked,

And clearly Chiyo's mental reactions are not all that bad as she was mentally able to realize the gaps between the senbon then dodge and weave her way through, .... The fact that you find it so absurd that someone older, and whose mind is probably sharper then Kakashi's has lesser Mental reflexes is rather un-nerving ....
Since Puppetry is mostly mental reactions it doesn't really matter,

Also, Please do know that when she pushed Sakura out of the way, that was NOT when she used her own arm to shield herself she used the puppets....


It tanked a punch from Sakura with no dents or anything

Pretty good Durability feat, and as you can see she used CES

tsunade who is much stronger than sakura punch madara's level 2 susanoo it had no scratch

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v4 susanoo arrow plows through iron sand like butter
 

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He'd have to form a large enough quantity of IS fast enough to block an arrow headed straight for him at speeds that Kakashi couldn't even evade. Not to mention reach sizes close to that of .

It'd rip through whatever sand he was able to gather and destroy his Kazekage puppet. From there on its easy pickings.

Or he can just spam Enton, heat up the atmosphere and end it with Kirin.

Ripping through Iron sand??? LMAO hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
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