EMS Sasuke vs. Nagato

[Universal Enlightenment]

It is a joke to even ask this question Nagato would undoubtedly beat Sasuke. Nagato gave KM Naruto, Killer B, and EMS Itachi trouble imagine Sasuke alone. Only fanboys would pick Sasuke.

O please nagato lost as soon as he got hit with Amaterasu the only reason he even got back up was because he was healed from Edo Tensei

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[Lankeysob]

If Itachi needed help, Sasuke is going to need it too.

 

[NLee]

I was wondering if an epic match up like that ever occurred, who would be the victor of the fight? I'm referring to a healthy, robust, strong Nagato, a non fragile Nagato, as in a ripped strong Nagato like the one that fought Itachi. If Nagato, under that circumstance, were to fight Sasuke with his EMS, who would win?

NOTE: We're judging EMS based on Madara's demonstrated feats, and by the hype EMS was given, such as overpowered MS without any fatigue, and a new EMS technique.



Everything is allowed in this fight, but Nagato isn't an Edo, and Sasuke is blood lusted as usual in his fights. Who wins and why??

Sasuke cannot defeat Nagato alone. What makes this so certain is the fact that you're making it a healthy Nagato


Nagato can counter any type of ninjutsu combination from Sasuke. He has complete mastery of all 5 (6) elements. He can counter Sasuke's Fire with Water, and Lightning with Wind. He can also absorb any ninjutsu outright.

Even Sasuke's Susanno would eventually be pummeled down by Nagato's dozen summons - multiplying dogs, giant birds, giant crabs, etc.
They probably won't be powerful enough to take it down, but they'd buy Nagato enough time to get his Chibaku Tensei up and running.

Nagato's Chibaku Tensei was able to hold down the Kyuubi somewhat. There is no way in hell Sasuke's Susanno can overpower what the Kyuubi struggled with.

Not to mention it took Naruto's Rasenshuriken, Bee's TBB, and Itachi's Yasaka Magatama to destroy Nagato's Chibaku Tensei. EMS or not, Sasuke won't be able to muster up that much firepower. A healthy Nagato's Chibaku Tensei is only going to be that much stronger.

The only thing that would give Nagato trouble would be a high level genjutsu. But genjutsu won't do Sasuke any good if he's getting sucked into a giant chunk of rock along with his Susanno

 

[inflame]

Nagato wins.....reason:
master the 5 elements.
ability to control gravity, summon monsters, control life and death, ability to absorb chakra.
(I don't think genjutsu works on him, of course this is my opinion) because he was able to use his eye and see the barrier that surrounds the leaf village and shows if there's intruders, it shows it has byakgun capabilities, also was able to put mental block's on the person that jiraya captured. another hint is when kakashi's MS looked at the renningun kakashi was only able to see pitch black and the renningun was shacking.
He also has a lot of chakra, and plenty of experience. killed hanzo and his men, and also destroyed the leaf village.

Sasuke loses.... reason:
not a lot of chakra, Amaterasu can be dodged, susunno would be very helpful however it want last long. has experience but not as much as Nagato. Is somewhat a thick headed person.

This match is a 70/30......70 for pain. in the naruto world anything is possible.

 

[inflame]

Nagato wins.....reason:
master the 5 elements.
ability to control gravity, summon monsters, control life and death, ability to absorb chakra.
(I don't think genjutsu works on him, of course this is my opinion) because he was able to use his eye and see the barrier that surrounds the leaf village and shows if there's intruders, it shows it has byakgun capabilities, also was able to put mental block's on the person that jiraya captured. another hint is when kakashi's MS looked at the renningun kakashi was only able to see pitch black and the renningun was shacking.
He also has a lot of chakra, and plenty of experience. killed hanzo and his men, and also destroyed the leaf village.

Sasuke loses.... reason:
not a lot of chakra, Amaterasu can be dodged, susunno would be very helpful however it want last long. has experience but not as much as Nagato. Is somewhat a thick headed person.

This match is a 70/30......70 for pain. in the naruto world anything is possible.

 

[Zato]

I don't know because Sasuke can easily defeat Nagato's summons(Amateratsu and the fact his Suasanoo has a Amateratsu sword). If Nagato uses Chibaku Tensei then Sasuke can use Amateratsu on Nagato near the area where the gravity isn't affecting the ground Nagato is standing on. This will force him to cancel the attack. Again, if he uses his gravity techs to try and pull Sasuke in to his path to absorb his chakra, Sasuke will just force his Susanoo and try and manipulate and shape his amateratsu.

Sasuke isn't stupid like Naruto. He seems to adjust well in battle. I can't say he will win for sure but there are ways for him to get out of situations. Nagato isn't very mobile, due to his legs being burnt up so he will have to fight from a distance. Sasuke can actually shape and move his amateratsu which makes him very dangerous.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Sasuke cannot defeat Nagato alone. What makes this so certain is the fact that you're making it a healthy Nagato


Nagato can counter any type of ninjutsu combination from Sasuke. He has complete mastery of all 5 (6) elements. He can counter Sasuke's Fire with Water, and Lightning with Wind. He can also absorb any ninjutsu outright.

Even Sasuke's Susanno would eventually be pummeled down by Nagato's dozen summons - multiplying dogs, giant birds, giant crabs, etc.
They probably won't be powerful enough to take it down, but they'd buy Nagato enough time to get his Chibaku Tensei up and running.

Nagato's Chibaku Tensei was able to hold down the Kyuubi somewhat. There is no way in hell Sasuke's Susanno can overpower what the Kyuubi struggled with.

Not to mention it took Naruto's Rasenshuriken, Bee's TBB, and Itachi's Yasaka Magatama to destroy Nagato's Chibaku Tensei. EMS or not, Sasuke won't be able to muster up that much firepower. A healthy Nagato's Chibaku Tensei is only going to be that much stronger.

The only thing that would give Nagato trouble would be a high level genjutsu. But genjutsu won't do Sasuke any good if he's getting sucked into a giant chunk of rock along with his Susanno

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Nagato was already destroyed from Amaterasu what is he going to do during that 5 second interval

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Nagato wins.....reason:
master the 5 elements.
ability to control gravity, summon monsters, control life and death, ability to absorb chakra.
(I don't think genjutsu works on him, of course this is my opinion) because he was able to use his eye and see the barrier that surrounds the leaf village and shows if there's intruders, it shows it has byakgun capabilities, also was able to put mental block's on the person that jiraya captured. another hint is when kakashi's MS looked at the renningun kakashi was only able to see pitch black and the renningun was shacking.
He also has a lot of chakra, and plenty of experience. killed hanzo and his men, and also destroyed the leaf village.

Sasuke loses.... reason:
not a lot of chakra, Amaterasu can be dodged, susunno would be very helpful however it want last long. has experience but not as much as Nagato. Is somewhat a thick headed person.

This match is a 70/30......70 for pain. in the naruto world anything is possible.

How is nagato going to dodge Amaterasu when his legs are handicapped???

 

[inflame]

it was stated the person who created the thread that Nagato is healthy and not limping

 

[NLee]

Nagato was already destroyed from Amaterasu what is he going to do during that 5 second interval

Amaterasu does not kill you instantly.

Karin of all people was struck by it for several seconds and she survived:

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What matters is that you can act fast enough to deal with it. Karin was burning for several seconds before Sasuke managed to calm the flame down and kill it. This shows that it's not instant death when hit by Amaterasu.

Even if Amaterasu touches Nagato's flesh he still has a second to either Shinra Tensei it away, or even absorb it. I don't see any reason why Amaterasu couldn't be absorbed by Nagato's Preta Path. If there's proof then please feel free to provide it.

How is nagato going to dodge Amaterasu when his legs are handicapped???

The OP stated that Nagato is completely healthy in this battle

 

[Zato]

The OP stated that Nagato is completely healthy in this battle

He also said like the one that fought Itachi.

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You can take this how ever you want to but its written there. Even after Nagato healed his body after sucking up all that chakara he still had issues being mobile. It was probably a issue he has always had and Kabuto knew it.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Amaterasu does not kill you instantly.

Karin of all people was struck by it for several seconds and she survived:

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What matters is that you can act fast enough to deal with it. Karin was burning for several seconds before Sasuke managed to calm the flame down and kill it. This shows that it's not instant death when hit by Amaterasu.

Even if Amaterasu touches Nagato's flesh he still has a second to either Shinra Tensei it away, or even absorb it. I don't see any reason why Amaterasu couldn't be absorbed by Nagato's Preta Path. If there's proof then please feel free to provide it.





The OP stated that Nagato is completely healthy in this battle

Pretha path doesn't stop all ninjutsu it has some restrictions

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Nagato had some control over his body why wouldn't he absorb it and when he used almighty push towards the flames pieces of his arms was already destroyed flying off with the flame.

My bad i didn't it was healthy

 

[Dutch Naruto]

That will be Nagato ofcourse,,

 

[NLee]

Pretha path doesn't stop all ninjutsu it has some restrictions

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Nagato had some control over his body why wouldn't he absorb it and when he used almighty push towards the flames pieces of his arms was already destroyed flying off with the flame.

My bad i didn't it was healthy

Granted, it does have restrictions, but I still don't see how it couldn't absorb Amaterasu. As opposed to the surprised attack via exploding tags, Amaterasu's flames can be targeted once they hit Nagato

Also, for some reason Nagato's body was revitalized when he used Preta Path to absorb Bee's V2-powered Lariant.

Amaterasu doesn't have anywhere near the same chakra as Bee's V2 Lariant, but the basic concept should still apply. He was able to use the chakra he absorbed to some extent to heal himself. Although not his legs which is probably because they've been damaged for such a long time.

Am I saying that Preta Path's chakra absorption is to the same extent as Samehada? No, but the fact that Nagato's body healed when he took in a vast amount of chakra does imply that the chakra taken by him goes somewhere. And that healing his body is one possibility depending on the amount of chakra he takes in.

Who knows. This may even explain how Nagato still had the chakra to perform a Chibaku Tensei after such a long fight against Naruto. He absorbed a bunch of Naruto's attacks including a full Sage Mode Rasenshuriken:

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[xxSAGExx]

I was wondering if an epic match up like that ever occurred, who would be the victor of the fight? I'm referring to a healthy, robust, strong Nagato, a non fragile Nagato, as in a ripped strong Nagato like the one that fought Itachi. If Nagato, under that circumstance, were to fight Sasuke with his EMS, who would win?

NOTE: We're judging EMS based on Madara's demonstrated feats, and by the hype EMS was given, such as overpowered MS without any fatigue, and a new EMS technique.



Everything is allowed in this fight, but Nagato isn't an Edo, and Sasuke is blood lusted as usual in his fights. Who wins and why??

Nagato. Any fire or lightning jutsu or arrows Sasuke use would be absorbed or blocked with shinra tensei. Nagato has 4-6 strong summons that has the Rinnegan also so Nagato will have a shared vision with no blind spots. If Sasuke gets close to Nagato then he will have his soul pulled out of him or chakra absorbed. Sasunoo is chakra and can be absorbed. Almighty push would destroy Sasunoo or Ngato can use Shinra Tensei to pull Sasuke from it. Nagato can also turn his body into weapons like missiles or a laser-like blast. we don't kow how Nagato would do in a genjutsu, the Rinnegan should be able to handle them but Nagato might not be good at it so thats a maybe. He was only stuck in Ma and Pa toad's genjutsu because it's a sound base genjutsu and effects the hearing and no sight regardless he can attack from afar with Shinra Tensei, his weapon ability, Chibaku Tensei to trap him in a small moon or his summons.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Granted, it does have restrictions, but I still don't see how it couldn't absorb Amaterasu. As opposed to the surprised attack via exploding tags, Amaterasu's flames can be targeted once they hit Nagato

Also, for some reason Nagato's body was revitalized when he used Preta Path to absorb Bee's V2-powered Lariant.

Amaterasu doesn't have anywhere near the same chakra as Bee's V2 Lariant, but the basic concept should still apply. He was able to use the chakra he absorbed to some extent to heal himself. Although not his legs which is probably because they've been damaged for such a long time.

Am I saying that Preta Path's chakra absorption is to the same extent as Samehada? No, but the fact that Nagato's body healed when he took in a vast amount of chakra does imply that the chakra taken by him goes somewhere. And that healing his body is one possibility depending on the amount of chakra he takes in.

Who knows. This may even explain how Nagato still had the chakra to perform a Chibaku Tensei after such a long fight against Naruto. He absorbed a bunch of Naruto's attacks including a full Sage Mode Rasenshuriken:

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Well i do have a theory that Amaterasu is a combination of fire + Yin= Enton and we really dont know the full extent of ying-yang chakra and i found it strange with the chakra he did absorb why wasn't he able to heal his legs???

 

[NLee]

Well i do have a theory that Amaterasu is a combination of fire + Yin= Enton and we really dont know the full extent of ying-yang chakra and i found it strange with the chakra he did absorb why wasn't he able to heal his legs???

Yeah, on a side note Enton being some derivative of Fire and Yin or Yang is plausible. Like you said we still don't know Yin and Yang chakra in detail yet, so the possibilities are endless. But still, it's still a chakra-based ninjutsu so it's possible it can be absorbed.

For his legs, I don't know. It probably has something to do with the fact that his legs were already damaged before he was brought back as an Edo? It's also possible that they were healed physically, but the fact that he hasn't used them in over ~20 years caused him to 'forget' how to use his legs properly. Kind of how when astronauts come back to Earth after being in space for extended periods of time. They have to go into brief physical rehab to get used to gravity and their legs again

 

[Zato]

But Edo is suppose to bring them back in their prime. So why would be brought back with F-ed up legs.

 

[NLee]

But Edo is suppose to bring them back in their prime. So why would be brought back with F-ed up legs.

Edo Tensei brings them back to how they were before they died. That's why Nagato's legs were damaged and his body withered. It's also why Itachi still had his MS

 

[warlee]

Kabuto control nagato to repel it, if it's nagato in control he would absorbed it. Kabuto is a rinnengan noob.

 

[KazekageGeo]

nagato>genjutsu (sharingan)
nagato>susanoo
nagato>amaterasu with Absorb barier
Sharingan Cant Defeat God
God>sasuke