[Discussion] EMS sasuke VS hermit mode+kyuubi chakara naruto???

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Sasuke would pwn. Yeah Naruto would be great but Sage mode vs Susanoo, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, brains, chidori variations would definetely lose.
 

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Sasuke would pwn. Yeah Naruto would be great but Sage mode vs Susanoo, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, brains, chidori variations would definetely lose.
sorry man But look at the facts Amaterasu can be evaded by speed and Tsukuyomi can be also be evaded by using his sage mode chakra and i don't know why people are saying that naruto gonna use 9-tails chakra to get out genjutsu I mean he can just use sage chakra its the same thing, and lastly for his Susanoo i believe it has weaknesses of its own like if naruto keeps eveding it with speed its gonna run sasuke chakra low and did u forget the big toll on sasuke after he used it and another thing it has never been said that it can stop all attacks so please don't say its the perfect defense and for chidori variations naruto has wind based chakra so lightning is out of the question, so there does this satisfy you.
 
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sorry man But look at the facts Amaterasu can be evaded by speed and Tsukuyomi can be also be evaded by using his sage mode chakra and i don't know why people are saying that naruto gonna use 9-tails chakra to get out genjutsu I mean he can just use sage chakra its the same thing, and lastly for his Susanoo i believe it has weaknesses of its own like if naruto keeps eveding it with speed its gonna run sasuke chakra low and did u forget the big toll on sasuke after he used it and another thing it has never been said that it can stop all attacks so please don't say its the perfect defense and for chidori variations naruto has wind based chakra so lightning is out of the question, so there does this satisfy you.
I think that naruto is going to win bt you got one thing wrong do you have proof that sage chakra cant get caught in tsykyuomi cause I dont think so.
 

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I think that naruto is going to win bt you got one thing wrong do you have proof that sage chakra cant get caught in tsykyuomi cause I dont think so.
Do you remember the chapter where naruto fought itachi and sakura had to use her chakra to get naruto out of the genjutsu, so i'm saying that naruto just has to sbsorb some more sage chakra and he will be out of the genjutsu or he could use some of fox's chakra.
 

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But look at the facts Amaterasu can be evaded by speed

Naruto has not shown us the feats to say that. Your point is invalid.
and Tsukuyomi can be also be evaded by using his sage mode chakra
Nope. Tsukuyomi is instant. He will die before he can do anything.
and lastly for his Susanoo i believe it has weaknesses of its own like if naruto keeps eveding it with speed its gonna run sasuke chakra low and did u forget the big toll on sasuke after he used it and another thing it has never been said that it can stop all attacks so please don't say its the perfect defense and for chidori variations naruto has wind based chakra so lightning is out of the question, so there does this satisfy you.
Nope. Susanoo is exteremely fast and Naruto does not know how it works.

Nope i just owned you so why would i be satisfied?
 
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Do you remember the chapter where naruto fought itachi and sakura had to use her chakra to get naruto out of the genjutsu, so i'm saying that naruto just has to sbsorb some more sage chakra and he will be out of the genjutsu or he could use some of fox's chakra.
That not explein anything look her:





1.You cant get out of Itachis genjutsu just with much chakra ,
2.it hasnt been prooved yet that sage chakra can reject genjutsu.
3.If i doesnt work with stoping the chakra flow, is he only way if someone put there own chakra in to you.

 

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That not explein anything look her:





1.You cant get out of Itachis genjutsu just with much chakra ,
2.it hasnt been prooved yet that sage chakra can reject genjutsu.
3.If i doesnt work with stoping the chakra flow, is he only way if someone put there own chakra in to you.

doesnt this mean that the hyuuga are strong against genjutsu cause they

have the best chakra control
 

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Naruto has not shown us the feats to say that. Your point is invalid.

Nope. Tsukuyomi is instant. He will die before he can do anything.
Nope. Susanoo is exteremely fast and Naruto does not know how it works.

Nope i just owned you so why would i be satisfied?
You say Tsukuyomi is instant, he has 36 hours in Tsukuyomi world to gather natural chakra, Tsukuyomi isnt instant, its instant to the outside world, but the opponents mind is slowed down and controlled by the user. when he is in sage mode, he is getting natural chakra from around me, so he is always absorbing chakra, thus immune to genjutsu. Cause getting natural chakra is the same as someone infusing chakra into the person.
 

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You say Tsukuyomi is instant, he has 36 hours in Tsukuyomi world to gather natural chakra, Tsukuyomi isnt instant, its instant to the outside world, but the opponents mind is slowed down and controlled by the user. when he is in sage mode, he is getting natural chakra from around me, so he is always absorbing chakra, thus immune to genjutsu. Cause getting natural chakra is the same as someone infusing chakra into the person.
36 hours in a different dimention. Trapped and being stabbed at every second or suffering from terrible psychological illusions.
I doubt the target can focus on gathering chakra to get out of it.
 

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I don't think Naruto would sit still enough to get caught in Tsukuyomi. And if he was, Sasuke would probably show him something that would infuriate Naruto and he would unconsciously bring out kyuubi chakra which would break him loose because thats one chakra entity feeding chakra into the system of another chakra entity which is enough to break out of genjutsu.

About the Sage mode thing, Naruto isn't absorbing natural energy into his body the whole time he's in sage mode, its only when he's meditating. So if he tries to asborb more he could snap himself out. But in a genjutsu like Tsukuyomi, I doubt he could focus enough to do that. Also, in the real world, Tsukuyomi lasts only seconds and natural energy would be moving in real world time. Even if Naruto is trying to gather it in his genjutsu warped perception of time it wouldn't move fast enough for it to break him out before the tech ended.
 

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let's put it like this:

sasuke can't heal, naruto heals very very fast

sasuke has amaterasu, naruto has rasenshuriken

sasuke has tsukuyomi, naruto has frog eyes and kyubii(who may do the same that 8 tails does9

sasuke has kirin, naruto...summons?(like sasuke did with manda he could sacrifice one toad or one toad may sacrifice wihtout naruto asking him)

sasuke has susanoo, naruto itachi's gift

sasuke has enton susanoo ribs, naruto frog katas

sasuke has lightning based nature, naruto wind(he needs more jutsus though)

sasuke has chidori, naruto wind style rasengan

sasuke has a katana, naruto a kunai(but clone henge)

sasuke has failrin, naruto has sakura hinata and ino(triple healing hands!)

sasuke can run out fo chakra, naruto highly unlukely that'll ever happen

sasuke can't keep his sharingan on every clone naruto makes

saske has katon, naruto futon (fire>wind)

sasuke has juugo and suigetsu, naruto has yamato(earth nature/water nature/mokuton), shino, kiba, neji, choji and shikamaru

sasuke has madara, naruto kakashi

what do you think?
 
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let's put it like this:

sasuke can't heal, naruto heals very very fast

sasuke has amaterasu, naruto has rasenshuriken

sasuke has tsukuyomi, naruto has frog eyes and kyubii(who may do the same that 8 tails does9

sasuke has kirin, naruto...summons?(like sasuke did with manda he could sacrifice one toad or one toad may sacrifice wihtout naruto asking him)

sasuke has susanoo, naruto itachi's gift

sasuke has enton susanoo ribs, naruto frog katas

sasuke has lightning based nature, naruto wind(he needs more jutsus though)

sasuke has chidori, naruto wind style rasengan

sasuke has a katana, naruto a kunai(but clone henge)

sasuke has failrin, naruto has sakura hinata and ino(triple healing hands!)

sasuke can run out fo chakra, naruto highly unlukely that'll ever happen

sasuke can't keep his sharingan on every clone naruto makes

saske has katon, naruto futon (fire>wind)

sasuke has juugo and suigetsu, naruto has yamato(earth nature/water nature/mokuton), shino, kiba, neji, choji and shikamaru

sasuke has madara, naruto kakashi

what do you think?
Its seem that evrything you say about Naruto after you said something about is suppose to be better? NAruto wis but not because he is stronger then sasuke but becauuse he has the will of Fire that makes never give up.
 

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Okei lol I am not a fanboy I like sasuke best but I think that Nauto is going to win this one. And your not the one to talk yor a big naruto fanboy lol just read youur text there no positive info on sasuke.
Ouch, Mugi got pwned. :rolleyes:

Personally, since the Totsuka Sword and Yata Mirror are separate of Susano'o, and Naruto probably has enough sense to avoid staring Sasuke in the eyes - he can keep pummelling at Sasuke with Rasengan variants, and exhaust him , causing Susano'o to collapse.
 

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Its seem that evrything you say about Naruto after you said something about is suppose to be better? NAruto wis but not because he is stronger then sasuke but becauuse he has the will of Fire that makes never give up.
any way you put it , naruto wins , that means he is stronger than sasuke , everyone knows that will happen in the end of the mangas .. till :naruto:vs:sasuke: will be a long time still naruto will win .... Go and cry you fanboy ! You're just trying to make an excuse for naruto winning :)
 

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Naruto Uzumaki wins because he's the main character even if he gets completely dominated by Sasuke Uchiha in the last fight..
At this point their powers are pretty much the same,plus Sasuke Uchiha won the first fight. Things must end leveled out between the two.
 

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Naurto got sasuke untill tsukuyomi and then it goes down hill from there... unless hes smart enough to get a clone to pop chakra into him. i still say this fight is narutos but sasuke is a stronger shinobi in general at this point anyways.

When naruto learns how to control the kuuybi and gets more jutsus-perhaps learn sage mode while moving-bu untill then sauske.

Also this will of fire crap it really isnt an arugment. sasuke has determination too just in a weird twisted f***ed up way, determined to kill itachi, determined to kill danzou. I mean the dude tried to kill all the kages just to get to danzou, cocky but still good shinobi.
 
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any way you put it , naruto wins , that means he is stronger than sasuke , everyone knows that will happen in the end of the mangas .. till :naruto:vs:sasuke: will be a long time still naruto will win .... Go and cry you fanboy ! You're just trying to make an excuse for naruto winning :)
OKei for the third time I like naruto better then sasuke. SASUKE is my second favor charactherXD I just defend him because 50% is a sasuke hater on this forum and 50% is a sasuke fanboy, so you can say Iam in the middle. And WTF is that the best you can come up with Iam dissapointet. You call me fanboy lol read you text that maked me laugh the first time I read it.
 

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[This is ultimate shit you people are dumb. first off Susano'o Amatersasu and Tsukuyomi,all use abnormal levels of chakra to produce, possibly as muchor more than FRS. Susano'o for sure is more than FRS. Ssuke with EMS has way more stamina chakra, and spped, btw Sage Mode Naruto cannot didge amaterasu he doesnt have the speed -_-
 

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[This is ultimate shit you people are dumb. first off Susano'o Amatersasu and Tsukuyomi,all use abnormal levels of chakra to produce, possibly as muchor more than FRS. Susano'o for sure is more than FRS. Ssuke with EMS has way more stamina chakra, and spped, btw Sage Mode Naruto cannot didge amaterasu he doesnt have the speed -_-

First off: Why did you bump a 4 year old thread?

And second: You're wrong. He's saying KCM+SM. So this is Naruto who is currently the fastest living Ninja, WITH Sage Mode benefits. Ay already dodged Amaterasu and Naruto's faster. Therefore he would dodge Amaterasu.
 
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