[VS] EMS Sasuke vs Gokage

[AnonymousShinobi]

Condition: Fully rested EMS Sasuke vs Fukly rested Gokage
Location: Gokage vs Madara
Intel: Complete
Mindset: Kill
Restrict: PS

Who wins?

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[LuckyMan]

Gokage uses final combo they used on Madara except this time Sasuke dies.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

Sasuke is different than Madara in this case. Since there isn't such huge power gap, he won't play around.

I can see Sasuke winning this as well as Gokage. Assuming PS restricted of course, with PS this isn't even debatable.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Sasuke would lose because Ohnoki is the most difficult to handle

 

[Transcendence]

I made a thread on this from a while ago with AkatsukiChurch establishing why I think he would win. Separately as a team, I think Sasuke would win, but if you had a hypothetical fusion of the Gokage in one body, that "person" would win. Problem with them as a team against Sasuke is that all but Gaara and Ay have countermeasures for instant Amaterasu snipes. Tsunade and Mei are uncharacteristically slow and Ohnoki is an easy target while floating for someone with a Sharingan. If this was in character, Sasuke would likely lose because he wouldn't have a full mindset to kill right away. But given the stipulations in the OP, Sasuke should not have any problems with this. Tsunade and Mei don't have much to stop getting sniped and burned and they're extremely integral to the Gokage team given Mei's Ninjutsu versatility, her Acid Mist and Tsunade being the only medic on the team. With them gone, Sasuke would do the same to Ohnoki and then the real battle starts. Sasuke can instantly go Susano'o and give him access to Susano'o Arrows that Ohnoki has no canonical feat that he can react to something that needed Kamui to warp away, and then Gaara and Ay have no conceivable way of getting through Sasuke's Susano'o (nor would the sand method work since the sand has to be lightened, but in this case, Sasuke snipes Ohnoki to prevent that from happening). Then it becomes a big old wild hunt. Sasuke repeatedly slams both of them with his Final Susano'o Enton Sword and ends them.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

I made a thread on this from a while ago with AkatsukiChurch establishing why I think he would win. Separately as a team, I think Sasuke would win, but if you had a hypothetical fusion of the Gokage in one body, that "person" would win. Problem with them as a team against Sasuke is that all but Gaara and Ay have countermeasures for instant Amaterasu snipes. Tsunade and Mei are uncharacteristically slow and Ohnoki is an easy target while floating for someone with a Sharingan. If this was in character, Sasuke would likely lose because he wouldn't have a full mindset to kill right away. But given the stipulations in the OP, Sasuke should not have any problems with this. Tsunade and Mei don't have much to stop getting sniped and burned and they're extremely integral to the Gokage team given Mei's Ninjutsu versatility, her Acid Mist and Tsunade being the only medic on the team. With them gone, Sasuke would do the same to Ohnoki and then the real battle starts. Sasuke can instantly go Susano'o and give him access to Susano'o Arrows that Ohnoki has no canonical feat that he can react to something that needed Kamui to warp away, and then Gaara and Ay have no conceivable way of getting through Sasuke's Susano'o (nor would the sand method work since the sand has to be lightened, but in this case, Sasuke snipes Ohnoki to prevent that from happening). Then it becomes a big old wild hunt. Sasuke repeatedly slams both of them with his Final Susano'o Enton Sword and ends them.

Indentation man.. They're like super cool, you should try it sometime.

 

[Transcendence]

Indentation man.. They're like super cool, you should try it sometime.

That's slightly longer than the average paragraph. Unless you have near sighted problems, you shouldn't have problems reading that.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Hitting the enter key is beyond my capabilities. Please dislike the post for that reason.

PS Restricted? Sasuke HAS more fire power, but it comes down to how quickly Sasuke goes to using it. A lightened Ay could take his attention away, or enough for either a sand wall or mist to be conjured to protect the rest of the Gokage.

 

[Transcendence]

PS Restricted? Sasuke HAS more fire power, but it comes down to how quickly Sasuke goes to using it. A lightened Ay could take his attention away, or enough for either a sand wall or mist to be conjured to protect the rest of the Gokage.

Will, I clearly stated that they would win had this had been in character. The mindset is to kill. So nothing is stopping Sasuke from immediately sniping multiple members.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Will, I clearly stated that they would win had this had been in character. The mindset is to kill. So nothing is stopping Sasuke from immediately sniping multiple members.

I wasn't strictly replying to you, and even still, Sasuke doesn't open with Amaterasu even if the intent is to kill. At the start of the Kabut battle, Sasuke had little intention of keeping the man alive but didn't immediately use Amaterasu on 'em. You could argue that due to numbers, Sasuke could resort to that. But dunno, just saying mindset allows for an Amaterasu snipe seems incredible lazy, Matty boi.

 

[Transcendence]

I wasn't strictly replying to you, and even still, Sasuke doesn't open with Amaterasu even if the intent is to kill. At the start of the Kabut battle, Sasuke had little intention of keeping the man alive but didn't immediately use Amaterasu on 'em. You could argue that due to numbers, Sasuke could resort to that. But dunno, just saying mindset allows for an Amaterasu snipe seems incredible lazy, Matty boi.

He wants to kill. Fastest way to that is simply sniping them as fast as possible with things they cannot react to. Plus, I don't think you can really use his mindset in the Kabuto battle as an argument for that. For one, Kabuto was anti-Uchiha. He possessed reflexes that could actually react to Sasuke's fastest attacks, was immune to Genjutsu, and Susano'o was too large for the area in higher stages, so using a better one was out of the question. Plus, he was basically Itachi's lackey, asking him questions and taking orders from him on how to handle Kabuto since Itachi knew they needed him alive to stop Edo Tensei. And regardless, I'm not saying he's sniping everyone. Just the ones that can't react or defend themselves against it. We all know Ay will dodge it and Gaara would simply shrug it off with sand. The other three can't claim to do that.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

We all know Ay will dodge it and Gaara would simply shrug it off with sand. The other three can't claim to do that.

With full intel here, can't they not (Onoki and Gaara) spawn a wall of sand or doton to those you can't defend against it? Couldnt Mei make a water wall too, to have it spawn on her Suiton instead?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

He wants to kill. Fastest way to that is simply sniping them as fast as possible with things they cannot react tot. Plus, I don't think you can really use his mindset in the Kabuto battle as an argument for that. For one, Kabuto was anti-Uchiha. He possessed reflexes that could actually react to Sasuke's fastest attacks, was immune to Genjutsu, and Susano'o was too large for the area in higher stages, so using a better one was out of the question. Plus, he was basically Itachi's lackey, asking him questions and taking orders from him on how to handle Kabuto since Itachi knew they needed him alive to stop Edo Tensei. And regardless, I'm not saying he's sniping everyone. Just the ones that can't react or defend themselves against it. We all know Ay will dodge it and Gaara would simply shrug it off with sand. The other three can't claim to do that.

Ey, think there was some mistranslation between what I said and what you got. I was referring to

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, where Sasuke initially attacked. To kill=/=Blood lusted, I doubt Sasuke'd go for the instant Amaterasu, seeing as that's rarely a strategy he would use. We should still take Sasuke as in character.

 

[Transcendence]

With full intel here, can't they not (Onoki and Gaara) spawn a wall of sand or doton to those you can't defend against it? Couldnt Mei make a water wall too, to have it spawn on her Suiton instead?

I doubt they can protect everyone. In that case, it would just become a wild hunt.

Ey, think there was some mistranslation between what I said and what you got. I was referring to

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, where Sasuke initially attacked. To kill=/=Blood lusted, I doubt Sasuke'd go for the instant Amaterasu, seeing as that's rarely a strategy he would use. We should still take Sasuke as in character.

I understood what you meant. Which is why I said you can't really use Kabuto as an example here since his reactions far usurp those here in this thread. Instant Amaterasu can just as easily be replaced by going V2 Susano'o and shooting off Susano'o arrows that three of the five can't react or defend against.

 

[Stxluciferr]

Sasuke wins if he kills Onooki early on

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I doubt they can protect everyone. In that case, it would just become a wild hunt.

Not really everyone. Its just two (1 if Mei Suiton Wall isn't effective counter) people who can't counter it.

 

[Transcendence]

Not really everyone. Its just two (1 if Mei Suiton Wall isn't effective counter) people who can't counter it.

Tsunade; too slow to counter it.

Mei; I believe repeated arrows go right through and kill her.

Ohnoki; It just comes down to how durable you think his Doton wall is.

 

[Beans2]

I made a thread on this from a while ago with AkatsukiChurch establishing why I think he would win. Separately as a team, I think Sasuke would win, but if you had a hypothetical fusion of the Gokage in one body, that "person" would win. Problem with them as a team against Sasuke is that all but Gaara and Ay have countermeasures for instant Amaterasu snipes. Tsunade and Mei are uncharacteristically slow and Ohnoki is an easy target while floating for someone with a Sharingan. If this was in character, Sasuke would likely lose because he wouldn't have a full mindset to kill right away. But given the stipulations in the OP, Sasuke should not have any problems with this. Tsunade and Mei don't have much to stop getting sniped and burned and they're extremely integral to the Gokage team given Mei's Ninjutsu versatility, her Acid Mist and Tsunade being the only medic on the team. With them gone, Sasuke would do the same to Ohnoki and then the real battle starts. Sasuke can instantly go Susano'o and give him access to Susano'o Arrows that Ohnoki has no canonical feat that he can react to something that needed Kamui to warp away, and then Gaara and Ay have no conceivable way of getting through Sasuke's Susano'o (nor would the sand method work since the sand has to be lightened, but in this case, Sasuke snipes Ohnoki to prevent that from happening). Then it becomes a big old wild hunt. Sasuke repeatedly slams both of them with his Final Susano'o Enton Sword and ends them.

The battle will start with Mei using Hidden Mist Jutsu while Tsunade pumps her up full of chakra. While they do this, Onoki make a rock clone to get in a backpack combo with Ay and lightens Gaara's gourd sand. Hidden Mist blocks Sasuke's line of sight so he can't be sniping characters left and right with Amaterasu, nor is genjutsu happening when eye contact will be impeded by Mei's mist; Gaara has sand sensing to operate without vision; Ay is too fast to get caught in genjutsu; a Katsuyu clone on Tsunade's shoulder can break her out of genjutsu.

With that being said, Sasuke needs to use at least a V3 Susanoo for the bulk portion of the battle since Ay can bust V2 Susanoo, and Sasuke needs V3 to access Susanoo arrows (he needs V4 to access enton orb.) Gaara can create massive sand arms out from the desert sand to grab legged Susanoo's legs and restrain its movement. Lightened Ay can buy the Gokage enough time for Onoki and Tsunade to prep his super jinton. Gaara will be next to Onoki so his lightened sand can intercept Amaterasu easily so it cannot disrupt its prep. Susanoo slashes can be tanked by Gaara's sand [

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]. Susanoo arrows are the only thing that could possibly stop the jinton from happening but seeing how Gaara can go offensive and

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while Tsunade charges Onoki full of chakra and he casts super jinton, it's unlikely he can do this especially with Ay acting as a distraction and Mei's mist impeding vision (BTW Madara's senjutsu enhanced V3 Susanoo would be around EMS Sasuke's V4 in terms of physical strength and durability.)

Gokage win mid-high difficulty with full intel.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Hard One.

Sasuke takes if he uses ps early

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Tsunade; too slow to counter it.

Was aware, as of why I mention Gaara and Onoki's defense.

Mei; I believe repeated arrows go right through and kill her.

Was addressing Amaterasu specifically. But as for your case, its very hard to picture this successful in 5v1 match.

Ohnoki; It just comes down to how durable you think his Doton wall is.

Im sure you implying the arrows again. If you are then Onoki's doton will get the same treatment effect against Madara's Magatama.