[VS] Ems Sasuke vs 4th Raikage

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Yup. That's exactly what I was thinking. Chidori should easily kill Ay here. Though Aoda is restricted.

Didn't notice Aoda restriction lol. Btw what do you think would've happened if Ay kicked the Enton spikes at the Kage Summit? Would his durability just overcome the shape manipulation of the Enton?
 

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Didn't notice Aoda restriction lol. Btw what do you think would've happened if Ay kicked the Enton spikes at the Kage Summit? Would his durability just overcome the shape manipulation of the Enton?

He would just burn bro? Shape manipulation doesn't prevent fire spreading or burning things when it's fire :|

+ Sasuke's Susanoo Enton sword is the only time I believe we've seen enton pierce. (The ceiling of that cave)
 

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He would just burn bro? Shape manipulation doesn't prevent fire spreading or burning things when it's fire :|

+ Sasuke's Susanoo Enton sword is the only time I believe we've seen enton pierce. (The ceiling of that cave)

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Shape Manipulation makes it solid just like Katon Dragon's become solid forms of Katon capable of busting a ceiling and being punched back by Tsunade.
 

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Shape Manipulation makes it solid just like Katon Dragon's become solid forms of Katon capable of busting a ceiling and being punched back by Tsunade.
True :lol and yes it should pierce considering Amaterasu/Enton is the pinnacle of Katon techniques.
And chidori already did
 

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Didn't notice Aoda restriction lol. Btw what do you think would've happened if Ay kicked the Enton spikes at the Kage Summit? Would his durability just overcome the shape manipulation of the Enton?

I don't see Chidori being as strong as Sasuke's Enton formed into an actual solid object, so he probably would've gotten his leg torn through.
 

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Ay mid difficulties him in both scenarios. Sasuke can't survive any of his attacks, judging by what occured when Bee hit him.
 

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His flight speed is slower but its still ridiculously fast. We all saw Naruto's sensing feats in regular sage mode sensing the battle miles away but in BSM with everything enhanced he's having a hard time tracking juubuto? Dude has serious speed in the air
 

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Shape Manipulation makes it solid just like Katon Dragon's become solid forms of Katon capable of busting a ceiling and being punched back by Tsunade.

His leg probably would have been pierced and then the fire would spread.
 

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The flames already penetrated through the Raikage's armor.

He would have certainly been pierced or at least what's implied by Gaara is that he would've been gravely injured.
 

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He can track Raikage, and he should be able to block his assault since he's physically just as fast as KCM Naruto, but with better reactions. (Not including Shunshin of course) But is that enough for him to counteract a blitz with his own attack? Or will he be forced to block? Cause if he can only block against Ay, he'd die.

1. Ay can follow up with another attack.
2. Ay might even injure him with his punch considering KCM Naruto said it felt heavy, and he's far more durable than Sasuke.

If KCM Naruto regular movement speed+better reactions is enough for him to react with an attack (basically if KCM Naruto can react to V2 Ay's Shunshin with an attack of his own that doesn't include Shunshin) then Sasuke would kill him with Enton Kagustuchi. And since I don't think that Ay is fast enough to blitz KCM Naruto in the same fashion SM Madara blitzed SM Naruto, I'll go with Sasuke, since he is pretty much equal with KCM Naruto in regular movement and combat speed, but with superior reaction speed. (JJ speed tracking Sasuke>>Initial EMS Sasuke=KCM Naruto in reaction speed)

Amaterasu is restricted, and i think that includes Kagutsuchi.

Without it, Sasuke can react to Ay but he can't counter Ay's attacks, and with a normal block he just gets rekt like what happened tu Jugo.

EDIT: If gaara hadn't intercepted that kick, the battle between Sasuke and Ay would've been a draw. Sasuke would've gotten his stomach crushed and Ay would have lost his leg.

Ay would have probably survived because of medical assistance tho.
 
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Amaterasu is restricted, and i think that includes Kagutsuchi.

Without it, Sasuke can react to Ay but he can't counter Ay's attacks, and with a normal block he just gets rekt like what happened tu Jugo.

EDIT: If gaara hadn't intercepted that kick, the battle between Sasuke and Ay would've been a draw. Sasuke would've gotten his stomach crushed and Ay would have lost his leg.

Ay would have probably survived because of medical assistance tho.

If Jugo hadn't already been in his miniature body and sasuke's stomach got crushed he could refill it like he did to his chest cavity against Bee.
 

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Amaterasu is restricted, and i think that includes Kagutsuchi.

Without it, Sasuke can react to Ay but he can't counter Ay's attacks, and with a normal block he just gets rekt like what happened tu Jugo.

EDIT: If gaara hadn't intercepted that kick, the battle between Sasuke and Ay would've been a draw. Sasuke would've gotten his stomach crushed and Ay would have lost his leg.

Ay would have probably survived because of medical assistance tho.

Amaterasu=/=Kagutsuchi. Besides, OP made it clear that he wants it included.
 

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Even though one is just a manipulation of the other?

No.

-Enton is the flame.

-Amaterasu is the name of the jutsu that ignites these flames.

-Kagutsuchi is the technique that manipulates the flame.
 

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No.

-Enton is the flame.

-Amaterasu is the name of the jutsu that ignites these flames.

-Kagutsuchi is the technique that manipulates the flame.

So when Sasuke started to spawn the flames on the 3rd and he dodged and it hit the samurai that was amaterasu and what Gaara blocked with his sand was enton right? That's the way I've always heard it explained.
 

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So when Sasuke started to spawn the flames on the 3rd and he dodged and it hit the samurai that was amaterasu and what Gaara blocked with his sand was enton right? That's the way I've always heard it explained.

The first one was Amaterasu, and the second one was Kagutsuchi. So yeah.
 

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But doesn't kagustsuchi start after enton is released? ](aka amaterasu)

With kagutsuchi sasuke would win, or draw if Ay can pierce solid enton.
 
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