EMS Sasuke vs 3rd Raikage
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KidGamer65
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People try to invalidate claims because it was in Naruto's mind, even though that isn't sufficient evidence. Why would Naruto's FRS be stronger than normal and why would Kurama not be as durable as he should be?
And like I've said, Baku enhancing his Fuuton=/=It being stronger than FRS. Feats and hype disagree with that conclusion.
FRS cuts even when it explodes, so no. Not to mention its irrelevant. She was amazed at the power of the Fuuton, thus Naruto's is stronger. No idea why you are trying to over complicate things.
I'm talking about Kirin. FRS>Danzo's Fuuton.
Nukite being nothing but piercing force doesn't discredit it, in fact it only makes it easier for it to tear through Susanoo since all that energy is being focused on one point. Also, no, its not clear that FRS's cutting force isn't that much. I've seen literally NOTHING from you that proves that it isn't.
And yes, Nukite>>>Kirin>FRS. The gap isn't small between Kirin and FRS, and Nukite is on another level to FRS when it comes to penetrating power, so it will tear through Susanoo.
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In battle?
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Pushing it back, and then getting raped by a compressed Bijuu Dama isn't "tangling with a Bijuu"
One shotted a Bijuu? More like using up his power to do nothing but fail to capture the Bijuu he supposedly one shotted.
He dives at Manda, cuts into its skin, and keeps on going until he's cut it in half. Why is this so hard to understand? I literally cannot get any simpler than that without drawing you a picture.
Yes, it does. He didn't land Genjutsu until that distraction, so I have no reason to believe he could have done it on his own before, otherwise he would have.
Never said that his armor>Ay's armor, but his body is more durable than Ay's, thus he tanks Chidori Spear.
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Why would he exist the building and come back again for the sake of that? The criminal stands right in front of him, and has been fighting. If he has number of resorts on the situation, then he'll pick what fits him. There was no need for him to get out of the building to do that, and come back again, when he could remove it. It was the situation. Darui didn't use Raiton on Suigetsu, and when Ay's Chara started to rise, its electrics were travelling all over and Suigetsu was looking at him. Darui before that, went to save Chee.
Pressure is a force and Ay's Chakra causing ground disturbance is also a force.
Pressure is a force and Ay's Chakra causing ground disturbance is also a force.
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Hey Kidgamer, I'm pretty sure the 3rd used his hands to get past Gaara's sand
Also KG, the ground they were standing on was never destroyed by Ay's burst of Chakra in V2. Not when we saw this was the ground itself here
Lastly KG, why would Darui say he's giving it up when he himself witnessed what the chakra does in V2 state?
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rather than his chakra blowing it away or so because if his lightning shroud alone could blow it away, I don't see why he'll be using his hands there.Also KG, the ground they were standing on was never destroyed by Ay's burst of Chakra in V2. Not when we saw this was the ground itself here
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Lastly KG, why would Darui say he's giving it up when he himself witnessed what the chakra does in V2 state?
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I don't know why his subordinates being close to him would be the case of him not being able to blow it away when he could have told them to move away from him or something. Nothing at all suggest the chakra blows things away(at least Amaterasu) or else Ay could have done so.
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Read Evani's post as well.
Sacrificing his arm is in no way an option if he had any other means to save it. So what if the criminal is right in front of him, all he needs to do is leave the area, blow it off and come back. Sasuke isn't going to go anywhere. Pretty sure Ay didn't sacrifice an arm for that.
Pressure is a force, doesn't mean that it was caused by the chakra exerting an outward force like Shinra Tensei, otherwise the Hokage standing near Hashirama would have been blown back too.
You can see Raiton on the sword, and you can see it electrocuting Suigetsu, with him saying he can't liquefy properly because of it. It wasn't Ay.
Sacrificing his arm is in no way an option if he had any other means to save it. So what if the criminal is right in front of him, all he needs to do is leave the area, blow it off and come back. Sasuke isn't going to go anywhere. Pretty sure Ay didn't sacrifice an arm for that.
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You can see Raiton on the sword, and you can see it electrocuting Suigetsu, with him saying he can't liquefy properly because of it. It wasn't Ay.
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He didn't need to, considering Sasuke was at a weak state, he had Gaara and all of his subordinates around them to take on him. And by Ay's character, he won't leave a battle for a sake of that when he has other resorts to get rid of the flames.
Except Shinra Tensei didn't push the ground when it pushed away Amatersu.
That doesn't show it was result of Darui's doing, unless you can prove Darui is able to flow his Raiton to his sword despite not being in contact with him. Ay's Raiton armour was electrifying the entire room, since you can see it going around even samurai's positions. Any electricity in contact with water will conduct. And Suigetsu was liquefying himself.
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The evidences show Ay was using his Chakra and blasting it, it doesn't show Darui was using Chakra as he helped Chee getting up, and no evidences show he can flow his Chakra to his sword when it's not in contact with him.
How come Suigetsu couldn't liquefy earlier on before we saw Ay release such amount of chakra? How come the lightning flowing through sword is still activated when Ay's not even using his Raiton
We saw them battling but we didn't see whether or not Darui used Raiton on his sword while he had restrained Suigetsu since we never saw how Suigetsu was eventually restrained
If he didn't use Raiton on his sword against him, Suigetsu would have liquefied ever since before V2 was activated.
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? How come the other Samurai's who had swords didn't have Ration flowing through their own sword if it was affecting the entire room as you can see a Samurai holding his behind Sasuke
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? We saw them battling but we didn't see whether or not Darui used Raiton on his sword while he had restrained Suigetsu since we never saw how Suigetsu was eventually restrained
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If he didn't use Raiton on his sword against him, Suigetsu would have liquefied ever since before V2 was activated.
The main fact that ruins his delusions; Why is Suigetsui pinned to a wall, if before it didn't have raiton on it. There's no reason for him to be impaled by the sword still, unless he suddenly has a fetish for large and hard objects inside of him. I am sure he'll fabricate the manga to get his own twisted views out. Not entirely sure why people pay him much mind these days.
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threads get so off topic ms sasuke would win this amaterasu followed by staying airborn on his hawk or barrow into to the ground with aoda
Summonings have a time limit, Amaterasu is a slow burning flame on normal objects. With the Lightning Shroud and The Third's durability, hiding ins't going to last. If he attempts to flee or avoid him, it's obvious who's superior.
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You are blabbering about a fighting style the Raikages have, when their fighting style is nothing but attacking with speed and raw strength. And as Sasuke's Sharingan can predict the Sandaime's moves, he will be a step ahead. Simple as that. If he dodged Ay's elbow, he dodges the spear as well. If he faces him in close combat and looks directly into his eyes, he casts a Genjutsu. Simple as that. Genjutsu only requires eye contact, which will be provoked without problem. So what's your problem? Whether you like it or not, Genjutsu will finish him. Madara's Genjutsu (which was not shown to be superior to Sasuke's MS-Genjutsu) left Ay paralyzed and abandoned to his fate of being crushed by Susanoo, until Onoki appeared, saved him and released his Genjutsu. If the Genjutsu is cast, the Sandaime is done, as he has no way to release the Genjutsu. Then, he is in Sasuke's hands, who can do with him whatever he wants. If you argue with his hard body, I'll argue with him putting out a Kunai and pierce his eyes. A Ninja will find ways to finish the opponent.
You already sound like typical Uchiha hater with arguments like "Genjutsu is not simply a gg", "he won't simply cast a Genjutsu". Yes, he will do it as simply as that. Don't argue with with Ay; the Sandaime is not his son. Dodai reacted to Sandaime's speed and created a shield. Sasuke needs only eye contact when the Sandaime moves towards him. Only eye contact. Do I need to say more to someone just not accepting that Genjutsu is cast simple, just by looking into the opponents eyes at close to mid range?
Featwise, Sasuke has what it needs to fulfill what I explained.
But your ignorance only allows you to repeat, that the Sandaime just won't be finished by Genjutsu. Because you can't believe it and don't want to see a Kage being solo'd by Genjutsu. Your imagination doesn't allow you such a scenario, as you like the scenario of the Sandaime charging towards Sasuke and slaughtering him while being immune to Genjutsu more.
Probably, we need to agree to disagree.
As all you've got to say is, that the Sandaime won't simply fall for Genjutsu, or Genjutsu won't simply make a gg. But you're wrong. It will be a simple gg.
Your argumentation makes no sense. Not using Genjutsu doesn't mean one can't; Genjutsu wasn't a factor for any of the Gokage. Madara did not use Genjutsu against Tsunade, did not use it against Mei, Gaara or Oonoki. He wasn't even serious. I honestly fail to understand your logic. As a Shinobi is fast, he is immune to Genjutsu? That makes no sense, as simple eye contact is required. And if Ay was that fast, he would've outsped Susanoo instead of landing beneath its fist. Madara caught Ay in Susanoo's hand when latter was distracted, in order to comfortably cast the Genjutsu.
You are blabbering about a fighting style the Raikages have, when their fighting style is nothing but attacking with speed and raw strength. And as Sasuke's Sharingan can predict the Sandaime's moves, he will be a step ahead. Simple as that. If he dodged Ay's elbow, he dodges the spear as well. If he faces him in close combat and looks directly into his eyes, he casts a Genjutsu. Simple as that. Genjutsu only requires eye contact, which will be provoked without problem. So what's your problem? Whether you like it or not, Genjutsu will finish him. Madara's Genjutsu (which was not shown to be superior to Sasuke's MS-Genjutsu) left Ay paralyzed and abandoned to his fate of being crushed by Susanoo, until Onoki appeared, saved him and released his Genjutsu. If the Genjutsu is cast, the Sandaime is done, as he has no way to release the Genjutsu. Then, he is in Sasuke's hands, who can do with him whatever he wants. If you argue with his hard body, I'll argue with him putting out a Kunai and pierce his eyes. A Ninja will find ways to finish the opponent.
You already sound like typical Uchiha hater with arguments like "Genjutsu is not simply a gg", "he won't simply cast a Genjutsu". Yes, he will do it as simply as that. Don't argue with with Ay; the Sandaime is not his son. Dodai reacted to Sandaime's speed and created a shield. Sasuke needs only eye contact when the Sandaime moves towards him. Only eye contact. Do I need to say more to someone just not accepting that Genjutsu is cast simple, just by looking into the opponents eyes at close to mid range?
Simple as that. He charges at Sasuke, Sasuke sees through his movements, looks into his eyes and the Genjutsu is cast. Just by looking into his eyes from close to mid range. It's your mere ignorance which can't accept that fact. The fact that Sasuke simply looks into the eyes of an opponent charging towards him with a speed which is seen through by former. This is simple ignorance. Genjutsu wasn't a factor against Ay, it wasn't a factor against the other Gokage neither.
Featwise, Sasuke has what it needs to fulfill what I explained.
But your ignorance only allows you to repeat, that the Sandaime just won't be finished by Genjutsu. Because you can't believe it and don't want to see a Kage being solo'd by Genjutsu. Your imagination doesn't allow you such a scenario, as you like the scenario of the Sandaime charging towards Sasuke and slaughtering him while being immune to Genjutsu more.
Probably, we need to agree to disagree.