EMS Sasuke > SM Naruto

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I thought feats became irrelevant the second Kishi said he was keeping Naruto and Sasuke equal.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I thought it went like this.

FRS Nardo < Hebi Sausage
SM Nardo > Hebi Sausage
MS Sausage > or = SM Nardo
KCM Nardo >= MS Sausage
EMS Sausage > KCM Nardo
BM Nardo > EMS Sausage.

I don't think feats matter if Kishi intends them to be on an equal platform at some point in this series.
And by that I mean Kishi will pull whatever he needs out of his ass to make this legit.

But off Kishi's words, EMS Sauce should be >> SM Nardo (pain arc). If improvements are made then whatever. :happy:
 

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I'm applying something called "common sense". We know sm is perfect when you don't take on any of the animals features stated by Pa. Kabuto is covered in scales and has horns. You're saying it's perfect like Naruto and Hashirama's who only have marking on their face and now animal traits?

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kabuto had scales before
 

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I don't wank over him dumbass. I simply think SM Naruto is slightly stronger than MS Sasuke, nothing to get butthurt about.

I'm not butthurt i'm just shocked on how oblivious you're when you've failed to counter my rebuttals.Oh and if i'm a 'dumbass' i guess you're far below the level of stupidity cause you looked like a dumbass the moment you started replying to me.Dumbass.
 

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How does SM naruto block Amaterasu? yes he can sense it but what tools does he have for blocking it? he can't dodge it no matter how good his reflexes because sasuke can always follow him with the sharingan. So please how does he block amaterasu?

He can run away from amateratsu, and i can prove that SM naruto is fast, it was able to rescue fodder #456 from sasuke.
 

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Just no, SM Naruto won't be able to dodge Susanoo arrows :rolleyes:

Kabuto did it. Also, Naruto dodged 3rd Raikage, I dont see a reason why SM Naruto wouldnt be able to dodge Susanoo arrow. As for the thead:

SM Naruto > CS Sasuke
MS Sasuke > SM Naruto
KCM Naruto > MS Sasuke
EMS Sasuke >= KCM Naruto
BM Naruto > EMS Sasuke
 

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he is saying he is a true sage and orochimaru couldn't become just like him. he was constantly talking about how he had surpassed orochimaru. why would he say he was equals to orochimaru and then contradict himself?
 

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He can run away from amateratsu, and i can prove that SM naruto is fast, it was able to rescue fodder #456 from sasuke.

Let me guess, you're gonna post that scan of Sasuke running away from an almost blind sick Itachi who had no intent in killing Sasuke.Genius.
 

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He can run away from amateratsu, and i can prove that SM naruto is fast, it was able to rescue fodder #456 from sasuke.

so sasuke follows him with the sharingan. naruto has no hope of dodging amaterasu
 

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His scales come from merging with Oro's cells, not from Sage Mode as has scales on his body and Sage Mode isn't going to make those changes disappear.

Kabuto has Perfect Sage Mode.

kabuto had scales before

If his sm is perfect why has he taken on horns as well? No animal traits whatsoever imply perfect sm.
 

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If his sm is perfect why has he taken on horns as well? No animal traits whatsoever imply perfect sm.

Naruto has Frog - like eyes, yet he was called "a true Sage" by Fukusaku.
 

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Frog like pupils. This is all. Fukasaku say that, but reality shows us that is not completely the case.
 

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Why are people comparing pre EMS susanoo to his current one it's weaker and he can't keep it up for long. His ribcage (the form Sasuke can get up at high speed) will be broken by a giant rasengan, and people seem to forget the strain a full susano'o will put on him, it's not like he can keep that up forever. Enton can be sensed and dodged because it is slow, but not amaterasu. Amaterasu burns slowly so Naruto with his superior speed in SM can hit him during Sasuke's recoil period. There is no definitive answer to this debate but it is close, I can't really say whether SM Naruto or MS but Amaterasu may provide the slight advantage. When people say SM Naruto will lose to CM Sasuke I just don't understand what is wrong with this site. Sasuke probably has the advantage though.
 

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Well, you have a point there.

Frog like pupils. This is all. Fukasaku say that, but reality shows us that is not completely the case.

He even says he couldn't become a true sage.

I think that scan is more than enough to end this debate about weather or not Kabuto's sm is perfect.
 

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For the record, he was aiming for Naruto's heart. Naruto just made him miss. Fail attempt to bash.

for the record naruto should have died then and there.

he inpaled his lungs, which = death in rl
 

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He even says he couldn't become a true sage.

Lol? You misunderstood his words. Kabuto says here that he is true Sage, which Orochimaru couldnt achieve.
 
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