EMS Sasuke > SM Naruto

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I kinda agree....

Currently EMS Sasuke > SM Naruto....

But in case Kishi Sensei shows SM offers more hax abilities like hurting Juubito....

Then the equation will change to....

SM Naruto > EMS Sasuke.... =D =D

you have a point
 

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for the record naruto should have died then and there.

he inpaled his lungs, which = death in rl

What about Sasuke vs Haku, he should've died right in the spot.
 

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for the record naruto should have died then and there.

he inpaled his lungs, which = death in rl

Since when do you have people jumping from building to building, using electricity on your arm without being killed, controlling sand, making copies of yourself, and catching people on fire by looking at them in real life?
 

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Why are people comparing pre EMS susanoo to his current one it's weaker and he can't keep it up for long. His ribcage (the form Sasuke can get up at high speed) will be broken by a giant rasengan, and people seem to forget the strain a full susano'o will put on him, it's not like he can keep that up forever. Enton can be sensed and dodged because it is slow, but not amaterasu. Amaterasu burns slowly so Naruto with his superior speed in SM can hit him during Sasuke's recoil period. There is no definitive answer to this debate but it is close, I can't really say whether SM Naruto or MS but Amaterasu may provide the slight advantage. When people say SM Naruto will lose to CM Sasuke I just don't understand what is wrong with this site. Sasuke probably has the advantage though.

naruto isn't breaking ribcage susanoo. the same would happen to him

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Madara and sasuke's susanoo are similar in power when they are the same level

 

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Lol? You misunderstood his words. Kabuto says here that he is true Sage, which Orochimaru couldnt achieve.

Didn't he say "Even he couldn't become a true sage in the end just like me". Meaning Orichimaru's not a true sage just like he isn't one? That's how i've interpreted it.

You're going to have to break it down for me if i'm wrong because I must be slow today. Even then the horns are still there.
 

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He even says he couldn't become a true sage.

I think that scan is more than enough to end this debate about weather or not Kabuto's sm is perfect.

he was saying orochimaru couldn't become a true sage. like I said earlier; why would he constantly say hes surpassed orochimaru and then say he isn't a perfect sage?
 

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naruto isn't breaking ribcage susanoo. the same would happen to him

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Madara and sasuke's susanoo are similar in power when they are the same level


Please don't compare Madara's Susano with Sasuke's Susano, it's a shame.
 

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if SM kabuto isn't perfect then Snake sage mode>>>>>>>>>Toad sage mode
 

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naruto isn't breaking ribcage susanoo. the same would happen to him

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Madara and sasuke's susanoo are similar in power when they are the same level


MS Sasuke? When it was broken with a punch?
 

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Please don't compare Madara's Susano with Sasuke's Susano, it's a shame.



people are comparing Kabuto's sage mode with naruto's whats the difference?
 

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he was saying orochimaru couldn't become a true sage. like I said earlier; why would he constantly say hes surpassed orochimaru and then say he isn't a perfect sage?

Orochimaru's problem was that he couldn't find the right body.
 

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Orochimaru's problem was that he couldn't find the right body.

exactly he is constantly saying he had surpassed his master, why would he then say he was equal to his master?
 

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Didn't he say "Even he couldn't become a true sage in the end just like me". Meaning Orichimaru's not a true sage just like he isn't one? That's how i've interpreted it.

You're going to have to break it down for me if i'm wrong because I must be slow today. Even then the horns are still there.
True Sage just like me - thats my interpretation.
 

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DSM Kabuto is better than SM naruto, dafuq you saying.

this whole thread people have been comparing kabuto's SM to naruto's so Im comparing sasuke to madara to make it fair. the difference is I have evidence
 

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But Kabuto has eyes and horns.

Mate, we have already seen imperfect Sage in action. Jiraiya had no sensing abilities like Naruto and Kabuto, he couldnt even use that mode by his own like Naruto and Kabuto. Kabuto had no such problems.
 

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naruto isn't breaking ribcage susanoo. the same would happen to him

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Madara and sasuke's susanoo are similar in power when they are the same level


The anime confirmed what I suspected. Madara's ribcage only withstood getting hit by massive ransengan. It then became a real susanoo and knocked the ransengan away before it exploded. The ribcage didn't tank it, it tanked impact of a ransengan hitting it, then overpowered Naruto with incomplete susanoo. The full scale of devastation wasn't delivered. If it did, the massive ransengan would look like this.

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A SM massive rasnengan from Jiraya was said to be strong enough to easily carve away an entire mountain if it exploded according to the databook. Naruto's SM massive ransengan might be comparable to TBB. There's no way that even a complete susanoo (the one after skeleton), can tank something more powerful than something that destroys mountains.
 
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