ems sasuke,madara, nagato, itachi>obito. kamui is op but obito isnt

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what makes ems madara so much better than ems sasuke?

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haha madara has kyuubi so doesnt count, even if its crazy bad ass lol.

and sasuke has blaze release and possibly itachis totsuka and yata mirror lol jus sayin
 

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Ok so Madara have

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and can do this

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so................ good luck Sasuke to beat this.
 
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what makes ems madara so much better than ems sasuke?

You serious?
Did he not casually slice off the tops of four mountains with but a swing of his sword?

haha madara has kyuubi so doesnt count, even if its crazy bad ass lol.

and sasuke has blaze release and possibly itachis totsuka and yata mirror lol jus sayin

Kurama was a part of his arsenal, as his own personal summon:
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So yes, it does count. Don't work on assumptions for Sasuke, please, just no.
 
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I don't think Amaterasu, once it makes contact can be Kamui-ed away. That much is assumption. Otherwise, Obito would not have used Izanagi to avoid death. Aside of that, I don't think anyone on that list beats Obito, Save for EMS Madara in my most humble opinion.
 

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No, I'd definitely say Itachi and Sasuke are out of their league here. Nagato might have a chance but I'd say he only wins if Tobi can't use all the rinnegan techs (as he's only shown outer and has not used preta path when one normally would). Of course Madara is better.

I don't think Amaterasu, once it makes contact can be Kamui-ed away. That much is assumption. Otherwise, Obito would not have used Izanagi to avoid death. Aside of that, I don't think anyone on that list beats Obito, Save for EMS Madara in my most humble opinion.

Actually Obito can only suck something in if he touches it. Therefore if amaterasu makes contact it would be a simple matter to kamui it away (and I doubt it would even do that much damage in the short time it has, Obito possessing Hashirama's cells).
 

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You serious?
Did he not casually slice off the tops of four mountains with but a swing of his sword?



Kurama was a part of his arsenal, as his own personal summon:
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So yes, it does count. Don't work on assumptions for Sasuke, please, just no.

ok i get it madara is waaay stronger, even though they both have ems, i mean anything madara can do with ems essentially sasuke can too.

but is a perfect susanoo really neccessary to kill obito?

And kurama is inside naruto so ya madara cant use him hes more likely to back up sasuke imo
 
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No, I'd definitely say Itachi and Sasuke are out of their league here. Nagato might have a chance but I'd say he only wins if Tobi can't use all the rinnegan techs (as he's only shown outer and has not used preta path when one normally would). Of course Madara is better.



Actually Obito can only suck something in if he touches it. Therefore if amaterasu makes contact it would be a simple matter to kamui it away (and I doubt it would even do that much damage in the short time it has, Obito possessing Hashirama's cells).

Obito said himself that itachi would have killed him
 

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Actually Obito can only suck something in if he touches it. Therefore if amaterasu makes contact it would be a simple matter to kamui it away (and I doubt it would even do that much damage in the short time it has, Obito possessing Hashirama's cells).

If he touches it, he will burn to a crisp, which is why he was unable to warp it once it made contact. He can phase through it if it's already visible.
 

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Obito said himself that itachi would have killed him

Can I see where?
I expect this was due to Itachi's intelligence and additional skills.

If he touches it, he will burn to a crisp, which is why he was unable to warp it once it made contact. He can phase through it if it's already visible.

Actually amaterasu is slower than most people suppose. Do you remember A? His arm was just sitting there burning as he casually went in for another attack, was blocked, jumped back, and then stood there and yelled at Gaara. That was six or seven pages. So even if amaterasu hit Tobi dead on, it has touched him so he can suck it in, and he will suffer only minimal burns that will not hurt him because of his incomplete body.

Finally, let I remind you all,

Tobi was hit and came back fine.
 

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