EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto get wrecked by Sage Hashirama

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Didn't someone say hashi already negged a 100% kyuubi and a master level ems user all in one? That right there lol naruto and sasuke have to try, HARD, and using sasuke was going to surpass madara is null and void in this thread, ems sasuke became rinne sharingan sasuke before that happened. We can only speak on the time he was ems sasuke.

Edit: and despite the fact that madara was brought back a bit stronger, he negged them both as well, and hashi beat him, that's all I need to know hashi has more of chance then not
 
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Didn't someone say hashi already negged a 100% kyuubi and a master level ems user all in one? That right there lol naruto and sasuke have to try, HARD, and using sasuke was going to surpass madara is null and void in this thread, ems sasuke became rinne sharingan sasuke before that happened. We can only speak on the time he was ems sasuke.

Edit: and despite the fact that madara was brought back a bit stronger, he negged them both as well, and hashi beat him, that's all I need to know hashi has more of chance then not

Except kyuubi =/= kyuubi + Ashura that's what most people are ignoring


There's a huge difference between being a perfect Jinchuuriki and using a bijuu as a summon. BSM is literally one step away from being RSM.

Naruto and Sasuke have to try hard but they still win in the end because they have more feats than Madara who pushed Hashirama to his limits.
 

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Except kyuubi =/= kyuubi + Ashura that's what most people are ignoring


There's a huge differnece between being a perfect Jinchuuriki and using a bijuu as a summon. BSM is literally one step away from being RSM.

Naruto and Sasuke have to try hard but they still win in the end because they have more feats than Madara who pushed Hashirama to his limits.

Even so, that's 50% full sync kurama in naruto, mads has all 100% no sync I don't think him
Being a perfect Jin is enough to bridge the gap, I'm finding it harder to believe theyd win
 

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Amaterasu doesn't stop burning, all Sasuke has to do is shoot multiple arrows on buddha statue and let the flames do all the work without much effort. There's a reason BZ called it the strongest physical attack.

And BSM naruto can create a bijuudama large enough to destroy entire mountain ranges, what makes you hink he can't destroy buddha statue ?

Sasuke and Naruto were predicted to surpass Hashi and Madara even without the Sage's power that's a fact.

Wth :lol How many arrows do you think Sasuke would have to shoot at the Buddah. When you're done, I want you to tell me how long it would take for these number of arrows to burn it down and if he'll be able to shoot that number of arrows before Hashirama crushes him.


Here's why. The collective number of Susano'o-sword Bijuu Dama Madara fired at the buddah with 100% Kyuubi would do more damage than the Biggest Bijuu Dama a 50% Kyuubi could make unless you could prove to me that Senju makes up all that.


Naruto and Sasuke Pre Powerup didn't even have the stamina, chakra control like Madara and Hashirama did. How do we know?

1) Look at the number of times Sasuke used EMS Jutsu before he had to ask Naruto for Chakra VS The length of time Madara fought Hashirama with EMS Jutsu before getting tired. Madara > Sasuke.

2) Look at the number of times BSM Naruto used Juts before he ran out of chakra vs the length of time Hashirama used SM Jutsu against Madara before running out of chakra. Hashirama > BSM Naruto.
 
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EMS Madara's Perfect Susano'o>>EMS Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o

Full Kurama>Half Kurama with Senjutsu

Hashirama>EMS Madara with Kyuubi>BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke

It's not rocket Science
 

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You guys overrate full kurama, his true potential has only been ultilized under naruto(and minato) which is further enhanced in senjutsu


yes, but madara's primary ability isn't at a elemental disadvantage against sasuke, hashirama is. logically sasuke is 2 steps ahead of hashirama with those two and PS. also maddy susanoo = / = sasuke and naruto. the latter not only has (by feats) better jutsus, but they have better teamwork etc. 1on1 i'd give it to hashi, but 2 on 1, nah. they can hold their own. this isn't going to be another narusasu vs juubito situation. hashi is not that strong



You can't be serious. kurama avatar naruto literally blitzed acrossed the battlefield against the bijuus.

Tbh its not clear if that was full avatar or not.

Hashirams can use all elements even within his budda. He can counter any element really.

Alot of people are saying Hashi gets negg by Ama(can be countered/avoided), bijuu bomb(tanked athousand already) etc.

But Both Sasuke and Naruto get negged by Wood Dragons, Gracious Diety Gates, and Pollen Forest.

Hashi has SUPERIOR experience. Maddy already showed the whole world how much experience matters. He also has Sealing Techs able to supress Juubi.

Im fully support Naruto and Sasuke's victory. It will just be a hard and grueling one that reqcuires expert team work. There advantage is not in explosive powers or 1shots, Hashi has them beat in that. Their advantage is numbers and teamwork.
 

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Hashirama did also mention that Naruto's amount of chakra (including Kuramas) equals his own chakra pool, which is insane if you think about it!
Also pre cognition, sensing abilities and so on are not are going to benefit neither Sasuke nor Naruto as Hashirama clearly displayed enough experience and skills to either avoid being caught in a gen jutsu or even being completely immune against it and it was already established that sage mode grants the user sensing abilities.

In terms of fire power and durability Hashirama outclasses both and combined with his experience and battle knowledge which seemed to equal Madara's one could easily conclude that he would wreck both 1vs1, however if he faced both at the same time Nardo and Sauce would win after getting rid of the statue.

1vs1 - med diff for Hashirama
1vs2 - med to high diff for Sauce and Nardo.
 
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