EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto get wrecked by Sage Hashirama

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I already gave the manga feats, tell me what Hashirama has that can over power BSM Naruto or EMS Sasuke I'll wait.



Nope, Madara only had PS which is why he used Kurama. Sasuke has PS along with lighting jutsu and Enton jutsu which provides more offensive feats than solely relying on a bijuu summon.

BSM Naruto = EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto > Hashirama therefore EMS Sasuke > Hashirama, the theme of the manga is "next egeneration surpassing the previous one" after all.



top kek, Naruto can de-activate BM and destroy wood dragon with Rasengan barrage


An average bijuu dama can destroy an entire mountain, BSM Naruto can produce one 10 times as large as that. And Sasuke can destroy mountain ranges with PS, combine that with his raiton jutsu and Enton jutsu and he has everything to win against Mokuton.

Bijuu Sage Mode Naruto is NOT stronger than Hashirama bro. Are you nuts?

Hashirama and his techs can tank most attacks from both of them. He already faced Madara the strongest most experinced Uchiha with the Full Powred Kyuubi and didnt even use all of hus techniques like the gracious diety gates which work on PEOPLE too. He suppressed Rinnegan Madara with them.

There advantage is in TEAMWORK. They can be a million placed at once. 1on1 they stand no chance.
 

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You're ignoring what I said, Sasuke doesn't need bijuudama because Mokuton is weak against Enton. He can keep his distance from Hashirama's Mokuton constructs and shoot Enton arrows at them with his avatar.



Juubi's power > Hashirama's power, but you never use logic so I don't expect you to understand that

Hashirama can just distract him with multiple wood dragons and nail him from above with gracious diety gates completely negging him.

Sasuke could create the diversion while Naruto and his clones set up a coordinated attack in which Sasuke will then switch up and combine his powers in. I hate how you try and make it seem like they pawn him when they arent even on his level. Sasuke himself is no where near Madara.
 
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You're ignoring what I said, Sasuke doesn't need bijuudama because Mokuton is weak against Enton. He can keep his distance from Hashirama's Mokuton constructs and shoot Enton arrows at them with his avatar.



Juubi's power > Hashirama's power, but you never use logic so I don't expect you to understand that
Lol its called I don't give a damn about fanfic/theories like yours, but keep trying :)
 

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sasuke has enton and lightning release, naruto has massive shadow clones and bijuu bombs.

Yes he does. Doesnt mean he is on his level. Even with that Madara still negs his ass. Hashi as well.

And I'm pretty sure they both know most if not all element releases.
 

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I already gave the manga feats, tell me what Hashirama has that can over power BSM Naruto or EMS Sasuke I'll wait.
Noone of the feats you gave come close of what hashirama had deal with in the past the guy already dealed with a full kurama and a far more powerfull version of EMS user his mokujin is already strong enough to keep up with a perfect susanoo user and yet you think that the feats you showed are enough to deal with this?
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Lol its called I don't give a damn about fanfic/theories like yours, but keep trying :)

Im wondering why he claiming BSM is juubi power. Last I checked Hashi put kyuubi to sleep, Retrained the Juubi and ALL its tails, kept the highest barrier up and made clones to help fight.
 

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I'm gonna need math, science, manga facts and a detailed explanation exploiting all sides of this hypothetical battle. :bdpf:
 
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Nope, EMS Sasuke was gonna surpass Madara which means BSM Naruto would've surpassed Hashirama. Mokuton is weak against Enton and buddha statue gets negged by giant bijuudama along with multiple FRS.

Silly argument.
Sasuke was never shown to summon too much Amaterasu flames.
Sasuke can never cover fully the Buddha statue...
What did you just say?

Giant Rasenshuriken?
Depends how big that is...

Naruto had only 50% Kurama.
I don't believe you are making much sense.
 

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Silly argument.
Sasuke was never shown to summon too much Amaterasu flames.

Read the manga, Sasuke covered a full sized bijuu with Amaterasu when he was inexperienced with MS, he can easily cover buddha statue with EMS.

Sasuke can never cover fully the Buddha statue...
What did you just say?

Sasuke can use Enton blade and arrows, piercing the statue multiple times should be enough to burn it from the inside and the outside at the same time.

Giant Rasenshuriken?
Depends how big that is...

Naruto had only 50% Kurama.
I don't believe you are making much sense.

BSM Naruto has 50% Kurama combined with NE and Ashura's chakra, the bijuudama he used against the bijuus was 7 times stronger than their most powerful TBB and that was without Sage Mode, he 100% has he ability to destroy buddha statue.
 

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Anyone who thinks they negg Hashirama 1on1 or even as a team is not a true Naruto fan.

It will be highly difficult but they definately can win because they are two people with awesome power and strategies.
However Hashirama is used to fighting wars against the strongest clans and hordes of Uchihas including the strongest of them all, Madara. Experience matters.
 

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Read the manga, Sasuke covered a full sized bijuu with Amaterasu when he was inexperienced with MS, he can easily cover buddha statue with EMS.



Sasuke can use Enton blade and arrows, piercing the statue multiple times should be enough to burn it from the inside and the outside at the same time.



BSM Naruto has 50% Kurama combined with NE and Ashura's chakra, the bijuudama he used against the bijuus was 7 times stronger than their most powerful TBB and that was without Sage Mode, he 100% has he ability to destroy buddha statue.

They cannot completely destroy budha statue. They wont even get the chance to try. It will be a brawl.

Budha has tanked like athousand bijuu bombs and Sasuke cant focus is chakra in time nor can he do it unless he would have done it to Juubi. What you are implying simply cant be done and Hashi would never have his avatar out without his opponent first doing it.

He doesnt even really need it if its just one of their avatars out.
 

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Noone of the feats you gave come close of what hashirama had deal with in the past the guy already dealed with a full kurama and a far more powerfull version of EMS user his mokujin is already strong enough to keep up with a perfect susanoo user and yet you think that the feats you showed are enough to deal with this?
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You guys overrate full kurama, his true potential has only been ultilized under naruto(and minato) which is further enhanced in senjutsu
Yes he does. Doesnt mean he is on his level. Even with that Madara still negs his ass. Hashi as well.

And I'm pretty sure they both know most if not all element releases.

yes, but madara's primary ability isn't at a elemental disadvantage against sasuke, hashirama is. logically sasuke is 2 steps ahead of hashirama with those two and PS. also maddy susanoo = / = sasuke and naruto. the latter not only has (by feats) better jutsus, but they have better teamwork etc. 1on1 i'd give it to hashi, but 2 on 1, nah. they can hold their own. this isn't going to be another narusasu vs juubito situation. hashi is not that strong

They cannot completely destroy budha statue. They wont even get the chance to try. It will be a brawl.

You can't be serious. kurama avatar naruto literally blitzed acrossed the battlefield against the bijuus.
 
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Anyone who thinks they negg Hashirama 1on1 or even as a team is not a true Naruto fan.

Ewww...I don't want to become like Double4Anime


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Naruto and Sasuke neggs
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BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke beat Hashirama med-high diff.
 

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oh i was about to jump in and say good bait but the title is different as they don't have rikudo boost.

well now this is a good one indeed but is must say that if its a battle of power vs power alone hashi wins mid - high diff seeing as how they can't fly and their reserves will be pressured.
but...and i say that with all fairness that if naruto and sasuke were to use their heads well and come up with a good strategy they can beat him high diff...

to support my argument lets just factor in the facts that hashi would in his best interest not go for close combat with both as he would get over power with number mainly shadow clones plus the fact that toad sage mode has such a great sensory ability that includes thread perception and reflexes and sharigan would exploit and counter his moves better seeing as how its 1v2 well hashi would have a hard time landing solid hits or his best option would be to use range attacks.

despite his large reserves and healing factor if he should get a direct hit from lets say a chidori to the heart and or especially a RASENSHURIKEN! well that for sure will put naruto and sasuke in the winning boat from there seeing as a senjutsu rasenshuriken will no doubt put him down as the poison, the damage to his cells and the possibility of him not being able to mold chakra will be the after effects of it and his healing factor perks might not be able to compensate him.
 

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but on a serious note tho there is no evidence supporting that hashi is
immune to EMS gen.
can heal from Senjutsu rasenshuriken after effects.
is faster than both.
has sensory abilites...well not to my knowledge i know the second does.

its a tough call tho.

excluding the power of ps ems madara battle skills sucks compare to itachi :lmao:
 

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So Sasuke engulfed a Bijuu with Amaterasu means he can engulf the buddah when Kurama is smaller than the arm of the Mokujin that sits on top of the Buddah's head :lol Oh wait and this is the same mokuton that can be made strong enough to tank Bijuu Dama level of heat and explosive damage.

I'm reading some crazy claims here. I'm a Sasuke fan but Hashi would beat a 50% Kurama with Senjutsu attacks. The only think Sasuke brings to the table different from Madara is a smaller less durable susano'o to crush and enton which isn't doing much considering Hashirama's many ways of escaping it. Lmao and to top it off Hashirama and Madara fought from Morning till night. Sasuke for sure doesn't have that kind of Chakra and even if he gets Chakra from Naruto Hashirama's dragons would be absorbing those cloaks with 0 effort.
 

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So Sasuke engulfed a Bijuu with Amaterasu means he can engulf the buddah when Kurama is smaller than the arm of the Mokujin that sits on top of the Buddah's head :lol Oh wait and this is the same mokuton that can be made strong enough to tank Bijuu Dama level of heat and explosive damage.

I'm reading some crazy claims here. I'm a Sasuke fan but Hashi would beat a 50% Kurama with Senjutsu attacks. The only think Sasuke brings to the table different from Madara is a smaller less durable susano'o to crush and enton which isn't doing much considering Hashirama's many ways of escaping it. Lmao and to top it off Hashirama and Madara fought from Morning till night. Sasuke for sure doesn't have that kind of Chakra and even if he gets Chakra from Naruto Hashirama's dragons would be absorbing those cloaks with 0 effort.

Amaterasu doesn't stop burning, all Sasuke has to do is shoot multiple arrows on buddha statue and let the flames do all the work without much effort. There's a reason BZ called it the strongest physical attack.

And BSM naruto can create a bijuudama large enough to destroy entire mountain ranges, what makes you hink he can't destroy buddha statue ?

Sasuke and Naruto were predicted to surpass Hashi and Madara even without the Sage's power that's a fact.
 

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Noone of the feats you gave come close of what hashirama had deal with in the past the guy already dealed with a full kurama and a far more powerfull version of EMS user his mokujin is already strong enough to keep up with a perfect susanoo user and yet you think that the feats you showed are enough to deal with this?
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His buddha statue covers about two or three mountains, Naruto can create a bijuudama that can easily destroy a dozen mountains at once. You underestimate the power of his bijuu dama.
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He's not just just using Kurama's chakra like Madara, he's using Kurama's chakra combined with Ashura's chakra and Sage Mode chakra, it's on a different level to what Madara was using.

And I already showed you how easily Enton cuts through Mokuton, Hashi's KKG has no resistance to Sasuke's flames
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If he can engulf an entire bijuu with normal MS whilst still inexperienced he can definitely use Amaterasu on buddha statue's scale with EMS, he has a variety of ways to do so.


BZ called Amaterasu the strongest physical attack for a reason, not Mokuton, not bijuudama but the black flames that never stop burning.
 
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