Ems madara vs third raikage

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Ems madara
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Restrictions: perfect susanoo and kurama
Location: madara vs hashirama
Intel: raikage knows he has ems and knows about it's techniques. Madara knows that he is the raikage

Third raikage also has his sealing gourd. Can he win this?
 
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Unfortunately he can fall prey to Madara's genjutsu and therefore he loses. Restrict genjutsu and I think he wins.
 

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Ay had intel on Madara's genjutsu and still fell for it.

Ay didn't fall for madara had infinite chakra so there for he was able to make multiple Susannos -_- those multiplier Susannos retrained Ay while madara forcefully put him in genjutsu

Madara doesn't have infinite chakra ... So there for no multiple Susannos
 

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Ay is not the third raikage and third raikage fought for 3 days it would take a very high level genjutsu to take him down

That's got nothing to do with not being caught by Genjutsu.

OT: Madara still wins. Normal fire has approximately 2000 degrees of heat. Katon: Gouko Mekkyakku was the size of Juubi. Juubi's size is 61.2 meters. 2000 x 61.2 = 122 400 degrees is the heat of Gouko Mekkyakku. Quite hot to the point where Raikage's body is not withstanding that much heat.​
 

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That's got nothing to do with not being caught by Genjutsu.

OT: Madara still wins. Normal fire has approximately 2000 degrees of heat. Katon: Gouko Mekkyakku was the size of Juubi. Juubi's size is 61.2 meters. 2000 x 61.2 = 122 400 degrees is the heat of Gouko Mekkyakku. Quite hot to the point where Raikage's body is not withstanding that much heat.​

irrelevant because naruto kyuubi cloak was able to block it with no effort madara wins standind susanoo destroys him
 

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That's got nothing to do with not being caught by Genjutsu.

OT: Madara still wins. Normal fire has approximately 2000 degrees of heat. Katon: Gouko Mekkyakku was the size of Juubi. Juubi's size is 61.2 meters. 2000 x 61.2 = 122 400 degrees is the heat of Gouko Mekkyakku. Quite hot to the point where Raikage's body is not withstanding that much heat.​

I'm tempted to neg rep you.

First off - you're trying to use real world physics for a fictional universe, and you try to apply an absolute size to the juubi when one can only gauge it's length relative to other objects since Kishi never stated the juubi's size. Second, your calculations make no sense. You don't multiply the temperature of "normal fire" (whatever that means) by the size of the fireball to calculate its total heat. Lastly, you decide on your own that "the Raikage's body is not withstanding that much heat." That's your own judgement and feats contradict that statement.

If you want to use "real world logic" then here's this: the Third Raikage's body is covered in lightning armour. Lightning is The sun is much bigger than Madara's fireball. Therefore, Raikage can tank the sun's heat so he can tank a fodder juubi-sized fireball from Madara.

(also, the sun's surface temperature is about 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit, so unless you're claiming that Madara's fireball is ten times hotter than the sun, your calculations are bullshit.)

Edit: never mind, didn't realize you were trolling.
 

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Madara wins this. The Third Raikage is not any better at Genjutsu then Ay was just because he is the Third Raikage (I was surprised that someone actually said this) and just because he fought for three days does not mean he encountered any Genjutsu. And even if he did, its not likely that a fodders Genjutsu is better then the Genjutsu of Uchiha Madara himself. Its important to note that Ay is faster then the Third Raikage, as Naruto compared V1 Ay's speed to the thirds as opposed to Ay's V2 speed. Either way, even if Genjutsu does not work, Susano'O punches him down until his brains splatter.
 

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Madara wins this through genjutsu, as his sharingan precog can easily track the raikages speed and with the latter being a CQC fighter and madara being faster than him, this is definitely happening
 

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Madara wins this. The Third Raikage is not any better at Genjutsu then Ay was just because he is the Third Raikage (I was surprised that someone actually said this) and just because he fought for three days does not mean he encountered any Genjutsu. And even if he did, its not likely that a fodders Genjutsu is better then the Genjutsu of Uchiha Madara himself. Its important to note that Ay is faster then the Third Raikage, as Naruto compared V1 Ay's speed to the thirds as opposed to Ay's V2 speed. Either way, even if Genjutsu does not work, Susano'O punches him down until his brains splatter.

I'm saying that since third raikage fought for 3 days he has a lot of stamina and durability, a genjutsu will not finish him off unless it's very high level like tsukuyomi which didn't even kill kakashi So I doubt it will kill the third raikage.
 
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Madara takes it comfortably
 

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3rd Raikage will definitely tank Madara low diff.

You not giving Madara PS or Kurama?

That's not even fair on Madara's part XD
 

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How? I highly donut he takes it without a good fight

Madara toyed with the Gokage one of which was Ay. The third Raikage is stronger than A, but let's be real it's not by much. Madara toyed with him and 4 other Kage and defeated all of them. In a 1 on 1 serious fight , in which Madara doesn't screw around. Madara beats the third Raikage comfortably.
 

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Standing Susanoo will do the job.
 

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Madara toyed with the Gokage one of which was Ay. The third Raikage is stronger than A, but let's be real it's not by much. Madara toyed with him and 4 other Kage and defeated all of them. In a 1 on 1 serious fight , in which Madara doesn't screw around. Madara beats the third Raikage comfortably.

That was edo madara who not only had rinnengan, ems, and mokuton, but had infinite chakra. We're talking about a restricted ems madara.
 

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All these dumbasses saying Genjutsu wins the fight. When has a genjutsu ever killed someone? PS or Kyuubi was the only thing Madara had to hurt Raikage so he eventually gets outlasted and dies if not one fingered hell stabbed first.
 

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3rd 1-Fingere his ass
 
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