EMS Madara is not overhyped: Uchiha visual powers varies from user to user

[Zaiigoukyou]

Great points but in reality this all but an assumption with standard common sense.The only true thing you can clarify and hold up to is that EMS Madara was the 2nd strongest shinobi in narutoverse(Disregarding naruto for now).

It isn't an assumption.

 

[Mellanoma]

uchiha are powered by hatred. The more hate they have the more power there eyes wield as well. Madara is one hateful mofo considering his history and so is sasuke

 

[Edge]

Yeah, I GET IT.

 

[Prime Rib]

ummm we already knew this close the thread

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

You're forgetting that Gaara, Naruto and Oonoki where fighting against him in a field of sand, so it wouldn't have matter if there was a fully completed susanno. That's my opinion, anyway great thread I really liked it.

You are a muppet.

He got yanked out his Susanoo... If you look like a page or two on he jumps back into it. I think this means that once you're out of it, that maybe you can't control it anymore.

Anyways, when he got yanked out, he resulted to using his Rinnegan powers because, and I quote, he said "That's a bit too much"

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You contradict yourself a lot by the way. About to reply you in your other thread...

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I read your post, assumptions, predictions and opinions is what I mainly saw. You clearly didn't read my post, otherwise you would of understood the point I was trying to make.

haha for my pride? I better hope? Dude, I didn't disagree these things "can" happen. The point I am trying to make is that you say these things as if they have already happened, as if they are a factor in a debate to support a character, when it reality, it's pure nonsense that is yet to be shown. Once again I AM NOT disagreeing that Madara may have a final form of Susanoo, my point is that it isn't a certainty that he will, so we can't add it to his regime like you have done.


If everything happens which has been said, there is nothing to throw back at me, I am not disagreeing with stuff that can happen later on in the manga since anything is possible, Kishi litterally could make the next villain "boneless chicken" from cow and chicken... So bookmark away, my pride and hopes won't be degraded in anyway shape or form.

As for Madara using Rinnegan to avoid FRS, ofc he didn't have to absorb it, he could of taken it straight to the ****, and guess what, boom he regenerates because he is an edo! Now I can't remember if it was here or your other thread which is pretty much the same but you said even if he didn't have the Rinnegan (and assuming you ment he wasn't an edo) then yeah, IMO he would of been butt-screwed. You said you showed using manga he chose to use Rinnegan, when on the link I showed you, it clearly shows that the Rinnegan was his only option there (apart from getting ripped to shreds then regenerating), but then again this was probably plot no jutsu so we didn't see his shoulder.

I'm going to look extremely silly... haha!



haha you sound like the biggest kid ever xD

This is what I am talking about. I am not disagreeing with you that these things can happen, but when you say stuff like...
"Madara has to show us his final Susanno
His MS techs
and the 4th ems technique"
You, without proof and certainty are saying he "has" all these things and when we haven't even seen them, but you say it like he automatically gets them.
This was the point I was getting at!

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I didn't want to argue Susanoo's offensive or its exterior defensive abilities, I understand that those are pretty damn powerful

What I'm arguing is the fact that it doesn't matter if Madara is in a complete or incomplete Susanoo, I think that he can get dragged out from the inside out even if he had a complete Susanoo. A complete/incomplete Susanoo defends the user from exterior attacks, there wasn't much Madara could do in that situation since Gaara used the lightened sand under Madara's feet to pick him up and whip him into Naruto's Rasenshuriken. If Naruto had decided to just punch Madara's in the face while being enhanced by SM or KM, Madara would have been totally screwed and would have been sealed by the sealing team or Gaara after going down for a second. But of course for the sake of the plot this couldn't happen

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Exactly, all this hype about the EMS and it would have been defeated that fast. Also there's all this hype about Hashirama, and what did he do again? Of yeah he took down an EMS Madara, who was revived and lost within 2 minutes to two kids and an old man (albeit all Kage level and extremely powerful)

But the point remains the same, all this hype about Hashirama and an EMS Madara, and this is the result so far. Comon Kishi.....:sy:

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1) Madara is trying out the rinnegan and mokuton jutsus. He's toying around with the Kages.
2) He will obviously show the true powers of the EMS. He did not show his MS techs. His final Susanno and the 4th EMS jutsu..I've already provided evidence that everything about him is super. He has super perception, super predicitability, a super sharingan, and super fire techs. HIS MS will be super and his final susanno will be super.
3) The rinnegan was revealed for plot and only plot and we should see the true extent of the EMS

Finally...Madara besides Sasuke may have the most powerful susanno in the entire manga..I have a right to speculate on its amazing abilities because I provided evidence that everything about Madara is super as a far as Uchiha abilities go. Your downplaying Madara's final susanno when its already been stated in the manga that susanno is directly linked to the Uchiha's chakra and
Madara has the most powerful chakra out all Uchiha.

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For all we know the only way to combat Madara's final susanno is mokuton jutsu or have special powers....

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All I have to say is we will see..



1) I never commented on the madara's rinnegan and mukuton abilities...The only thing that was enhanced about madara was obtain the 1st Hokages powers. Even the rinnegan is Madara's power naturally. Again I never commented on the rinnegan in the openig post. It was strictly about EMS Madara.

2) I really don't think you read my post. Its already been stated in the manga numerous times that Sasuke's EYES will surpass Itachi. It doesn't matter if they were originally Itachi's. I never once said Sasuke the ninja will surpass Itachi the ninja. The manga said his eyes will.


We all refer to Kakashi's sharingan as kakashi's sharingan right? He's the one who is advancing it not Obito. Same thing with Sasuke.

Where'd you hear that Madara's susano'o is more powerful than Itachi's? Itachi's susano'o is clearly more powerful than Madara's. Itachi has spirit items.

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I hate to say I told you so. Wait, who am I kidding? I love saying I told you so. I TOLD YOU SO.

 

[Anonwisdom]

Hence the pathetic downplaying of EMS that I stated in the previous thread. Put anyone in that situation and they're dead.

Lol the edo raikage already survived this exact same situation. Not to mention minato would survive this situation, kakashi with kamui, obito with ms dimension warp,, shisu with body flicker, and even though danzo would technicaly loose and die he would still walk away from the situation because he can spam izangi and have momore. Than one death.