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This is not a theory thread. This thread is to make a clarification of Madara's power and why he was so powerful in his EMS form alone.
The reason why EMS Madara was so powerful was hinted in the manga by this panel
Here is Madara's statement from that panel:
"Harishama' Mokuton jutsu. I was the only one who could see through this as his enemy in the old days.."
What exactly did Madara mean by that?
"I was the only one who could see through this..."
I seriously doubt madara was the only Uchiha alive to battle the 1st Hokage.
This statement implies that madara was the only Uchiha whos sharingan perception was strong enough to detect the 1st Hokages Mokuton jutsu.
So why didn't other Uchiha see through the 1st Hokage's techniques.
Ill give you the reason right now..
EVERY UCHIHA HAS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF PRECEPTION AND VISUAL PROWNESS.
Which means Obito's sharingan perception ability may not be as effective as Sasuke's perception ability or genjutsu ability.
What determines the power of the uchiha's sharingan is the chakra. The more powerful the chakra of a Uchiha is the more powerful their eyes are and the greater their eyes becomes.
This is why their eyes develop overtime
In simple terms. Madara's eyes have greater perception and visual powers then normal uchiha...
This means his ability to predict, decipher and counter is even greater then a normal Uchiha.
This is what Madara meant when he said he was gifted with a particurally powerful chakra even for a Uchiha..
Remember when Orochimaru said that sasuke will have eyes that will surpass Itachi's?
Thats exactly what Orochimaru meant. EYES THAT WILL SURPASS ITACHI"S EYES..
Sasuke's MS looks extremely different from any other MS and he is also able to manipulate the shape of Amaretsu and even use it as a elemental tech. A.K.A inferno techs. unlike Itachi
Every Uchiha's eyes are different. Shisui had the most powerful genjustu sharingan eyes.but madara and Sasuke have the most powerful sharingan eyes overall...
To truly understand Madara's magnificent powers we have to understand the opposite of end of visual power. Kakashi's psuedo sharingan..
First of Kakashi can't wield his sharingan for a long time...
Second of all Kakashi for some reason can't use MS techs..
Lastly and the best point of all MS can kill Kakashi with minor use...
The reason being Kakashi does not have Uchiha chakra...and his chakra is not powerful enough for his eyes. His sharingan's abilties as well as its time is limited.
However Madara is the complete opposite of Kakashi.
He can wield the sharingan nearly limitlessly
Use MS techs that overpowered then normal ( we have yet to see)
His MS techs only caused blindness not his death with EMS he can wield them nearly limitlessly.
Another example is Sasuke was spamming MS jutsus against danzo...
Why because Sasuke has more powerful chakra then Kakashi.
Again the more powerful a Uchiha's chakra becomes the more powerful their MS techs become..
And before you even say.."Sasuke susanno doesn't have anything to do with susanno's progression look at the panel on the left where Karin clearly says" Sasuke's CHAKRAS I never seen them like this before.'
Okay back to Madara...
So what does this all mean for madara????
It means Madara has a super sharigan..which has super perception and deciphering abilities. It means his MS TeCHS are haxxed beyond belief and he will probably be unleash the most powerful MS techs we will ever see besides Sasukes and it also means..he suffers virtually nothing when using his sharingan with in conjunction with his overpowered jutsu...(specifically the fire techs)
The reason why madara was feared because no one could break through his uber sharigan powers..and if he used them on the Kages they wouldn't stand a chance..so he's toying with them with his new abilities and parts of the 1st Hokage's powers.
When you fight Madara you can't look him in the eyes. He can predict your movements extremely well even for a Uchiha and that combination right there makes him hard to fight against He's like super Uchiha.
The result is this:
Madara guarded against A's attack...
And to put this
to rest...
If madara ever reveals a full version susanno which I seriously think he will that arguement that he was forced to use the rinnegan will be officially null and void. How so? If madara does have a fully armored susanno and is in fact toying around with the Kages it means he choose and WAS NOT FORCED TO USE THE RINNEGAN. MEANING EMS MADARA >>>>>> NARUTO GAARA AND OONAKI PERIOD.
AND I SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT WAS MADARA"S FULL VERSION SUSANNO
Madara's incomplete Susanno
Sasuke's incomplete Susanno
Itachi's incomplete Susanno
It's right in our face that OBVIOUSLY WASN't Madara's final version.
My assumption and only assumption is that Madara's susanno is a freaking monster in its final form and it would have been overkill to use it.
Edit further evidence provided that Madara's final Susannoo will be overkill
Susanno's strength is directly determined by how powerful the user is..which is why sasuke's susanno was detoriating. and defense weakening..
However when replenish..
This is what happened. His susanno was strengthened again and geuess who has the mightest chakra of all.
Thats right Madara.
Done and done.
Madara has the strongest techniques, most powerful sharingan or super sharignan and the ultimate MS powers.
THE STRONGEST TECHNIQUES
MOST POWERFUL SHARINGAN UBER PERCEPTION
TEARING through an entire division and outmanuevering Gaara's sand
with ease
POWERFUL GENJUTSU YOU CAN't LOOK INTO HIS EYES
THE MOST POWERFUL MS TECHS WE HAVE YET TO SEE
AND FINAL SUSANNO WE HAVE YET TO SEE
This is not a theory thread. This thread is to make a clarification of Madara's power and why he was so powerful in his EMS form alone.
The reason why EMS Madara was so powerful was hinted in the manga by this panel
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Here is Madara's statement from that panel:
"Harishama' Mokuton jutsu. I was the only one who could see through this as his enemy in the old days.."
What exactly did Madara mean by that?
"I was the only one who could see through this..."
I seriously doubt madara was the only Uchiha alive to battle the 1st Hokage.
This statement implies that madara was the only Uchiha whos sharingan perception was strong enough to detect the 1st Hokages Mokuton jutsu.
So why didn't other Uchiha see through the 1st Hokage's techniques.
Ill give you the reason right now..
EVERY UCHIHA HAS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF PRECEPTION AND VISUAL PROWNESS.
Which means Obito's sharingan perception ability may not be as effective as Sasuke's perception ability or genjutsu ability.
What determines the power of the uchiha's sharingan is the chakra. The more powerful the chakra of a Uchiha is the more powerful their eyes are and the greater their eyes becomes.
This is why their eyes develop overtime
In simple terms. Madara's eyes have greater perception and visual powers then normal uchiha...
You must be registered for see images
This means his ability to predict, decipher and counter is even greater then a normal Uchiha.
This is what Madara meant when he said he was gifted with a particurally powerful chakra even for a Uchiha..
You must be registered for see images
Remember when Orochimaru said that sasuke will have eyes that will surpass Itachi's?
You must be registered for see images
Thats exactly what Orochimaru meant. EYES THAT WILL SURPASS ITACHI"S EYES..
Sasuke's MS looks extremely different from any other MS and he is also able to manipulate the shape of Amaretsu and even use it as a elemental tech. A.K.A inferno techs. unlike Itachi
You must be registered for see images
Every Uchiha's eyes are different. Shisui had the most powerful genjustu sharingan eyes.but madara and Sasuke have the most powerful sharingan eyes overall...
To truly understand Madara's magnificent powers we have to understand the opposite of end of visual power. Kakashi's psuedo sharingan..
First of Kakashi can't wield his sharingan for a long time...
Second of all Kakashi for some reason can't use MS techs..
Lastly and the best point of all MS can kill Kakashi with minor use...
You must be registered for see images
The reason being Kakashi does not have Uchiha chakra...and his chakra is not powerful enough for his eyes. His sharingan's abilties as well as its time is limited.
However Madara is the complete opposite of Kakashi.
He can wield the sharingan nearly limitlessly
Use MS techs that overpowered then normal ( we have yet to see)
His MS techs only caused blindness not his death with EMS he can wield them nearly limitlessly.
Another example is Sasuke was spamming MS jutsus against danzo...
Why because Sasuke has more powerful chakra then Kakashi.
Again the more powerful a Uchiha's chakra becomes the more powerful their MS techs become..
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
And before you even say.."Sasuke susanno doesn't have anything to do with susanno's progression look at the panel on the left where Karin clearly says" Sasuke's CHAKRAS I never seen them like this before.'
Okay back to Madara...
So what does this all mean for madara????
It means Madara has a super sharigan..which has super perception and deciphering abilities. It means his MS TeCHS are haxxed beyond belief and he will probably be unleash the most powerful MS techs we will ever see besides Sasukes and it also means..he suffers virtually nothing when using his sharingan with in conjunction with his overpowered jutsu...(specifically the fire techs)
The reason why madara was feared because no one could break through his uber sharigan powers..and if he used them on the Kages they wouldn't stand a chance..so he's toying with them with his new abilities and parts of the 1st Hokage's powers.
When you fight Madara you can't look him in the eyes. He can predict your movements extremely well even for a Uchiha and that combination right there makes him hard to fight against He's like super Uchiha.
The result is this:
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Madara guarded against A's attack...
And to put this
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to rest...
If madara ever reveals a full version susanno which I seriously think he will that arguement that he was forced to use the rinnegan will be officially null and void. How so? If madara does have a fully armored susanno and is in fact toying around with the Kages it means he choose and WAS NOT FORCED TO USE THE RINNEGAN. MEANING EMS MADARA >>>>>> NARUTO GAARA AND OONAKI PERIOD.
AND I SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT WAS MADARA"S FULL VERSION SUSANNO
Madara's incomplete Susanno
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Sasuke's incomplete Susanno
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Itachi's incomplete Susanno
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It's right in our face that OBVIOUSLY WASN't Madara's final version.
My assumption and only assumption is that Madara's susanno is a freaking monster in its final form and it would have been overkill to use it.
Edit further evidence provided that Madara's final Susannoo will be overkill
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Susanno's strength is directly determined by how powerful the user is..which is why sasuke's susanno was detoriating. and defense weakening..
However when replenish..
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This is what happened. His susanno was strengthened again and geuess who has the mightest chakra of all.
Thats right Madara.
Done and done.
Madara has the strongest techniques, most powerful sharingan or super sharignan and the ultimate MS powers.
THE STRONGEST TECHNIQUES
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MOST POWERFUL SHARINGAN UBER PERCEPTION
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TEARING through an entire division and outmanuevering Gaara's sand
with ease
POWERFUL GENJUTSU YOU CAN't LOOK INTO HIS EYES
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THE MOST POWERFUL MS TECHS WE HAVE YET TO SEE
AND FINAL SUSANNO WE HAVE YET TO SEE
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