EMS Madara is not overhyped: Uchiha visual powers varies from user to user

[edo tensai wilmaso]

wow so your saying madara is a super uchiha lmao ... someone has dbz anxiety issues.
madara is just better period, he might have been the first uchiha with ems.

 

[Easyfathom]

Thanks. People have a hard time swallowing the truth. All my threads do is take pieces of the manga and I treat them like a puzzle and put it together.

You must have some extra pieces or something... Like I said before you have made up assumptions, such as, "Madaras Tsukyomi is gonna be better then Itachi's" or something like that. FALSE, this is an assumption but your saying it and commenting on it as if it is a fact.

This is an amazing thread. I'm surprised I didn't see it before. I'm actually surprised people were actually hating on this.

You are right. Each Uchiha has their own skill. I've been agreeing with this for the longest. Itachi's Tsukuyomi is far superior to Sasuke's, But Sasuke's Amaterasu surpasses Itachi's. Just shows. A prime exmaple of what you were talking about.

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Dude, I have liked pretty much all of your posts... Except this one. But I feel as though you didn't understand the original post. The thread maker isn't say they have their own skills, in fact he is giving characters, such as Madara techniques that he A. hasn't been showed or B. haven't heard him having.
You're right about the Itachi and Sasuke thing, never thought about it like that.

 

[jorgelius]

u got few things wrong.. visual strenght is not all about chakra itachi stood for that as shiny example, he had poor stamina and chakra reserve same as kakashi, but he have uchiha body and advanced bloodline limit.. mangekyo his eyes were same as sasuke, and like danzo said they perceived things so differently.. it's true that tsukyomi is about strongest genjutsu but itachi as a smart gen type user like no other, put meaning to that..

other thing.. example sasuke i don't think his chakra reserve got bigger but his true streght lies within his eyes, while u say sasuke sharingan surpass itachi, it is actually itachi's eyes which got huge power when they find new host.. so it was written!! other example..: i think nagato got normal amount of chakra many believe he is chakra monster but that is not so, those eyes are one in a million shot, legendary sage eyes themself nagato just wielded theyr power, and madara as in uchiha with huge chakra reserve, boosted with ems and awakened rinne himself is good example what we now see is truly gifted rinnegan user, he doesn't rely solely on paths which he can use but ultimately they shorten your lifespan every rinne user can use them, what madara do is much cooler he wield strong kekkei genkai techniques and various ninjutsu now he actually learn while he fights .. hype of hashirama and madara isn't overhype at all..

 

[aashish1996]

isn't that obvious? Wasn't that implied when we learned about Uchiha Shisui's Ultimate Genjutu, Kotoamatsukami!

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

You must have some extra pieces or something... Like I said before you have made up assumptions, such as, "Madaras Tsukyomi is gonna be better then Itachi's" or something like that. FALSE, this is an assumption but your saying it and commenting on it as if it is a fact.



Dude, I have liked pretty much all of your posts... Except this one. But I feel as though you didn't understand the original post. The thread maker isn't say they have their own skills, in fact he is giving characters, such as Madara techniques that he A. hasn't been showed or B. haven't heard him having.
You're right about the Itachi and Sasuke thing, never thought about it like that.

He has superior preception fire techniques chakra and susanno...I'm pretty sure his MS techs are stronger then itachis. BUt your right its assumption with evidence backing it though.

Sasuke has more powerful eyes then Itachi Itachi is more of a genuis..

Intelligence is a big factor in Naruto. Example Shikamaru beating Hidan..

Itachi is much smarter then Sasuke doesn't mean he has more powerful chakra.

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

I'm not going to waste my time anymore we'll see what happens in the later chapters and who is right and who is wrong.

 

[Easyfathom]

He has superior preception fire techniques chakra and susanno...I'm pretty sure his MS techs are stronger then itachis. BUt your right its assumption with evidence backing it though.

Yeah that's your opinion and I do agree that his MS techs are better. What I don't agree is that he can use Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu, and in your OP you said that he can use them both, and then better then itachi. So where is the evidence to back this assumption?
On top of that, so far it looks like he doesn't have a better Susanoo (because of the weapons) but I hope he has a final form.

Sasuke has more powerful eyes then Itachi Itachi is more of a genuis..

Hmm, arguable they are Itachi's eyes, but Sasuke is boosting the power by using his stronger chakra. Yus, I agree Itachi is smarter.

Intelligence is a big factor in Naruto. Example Shikamaru beating Hidan..

Well, imo, this was plot no jutsu. But yes, smarts helps a lot.

Itachi is much smarter then Sasuke doesn't mean he has more powerful chakra.

Well, considering he has more powerful chakra then Madara, who Tobi said amongst the Uchiha clan he had the best or something a long those line, I would say yes he does, but I don't think anything has been stated about Itachi's. So this could be false :|

I think Itachi without sickness and just MS, can beat Sasuke with his EMS... Especially since we are yet too see what he is fully capable of.

 

[sasukeEMSrules]

great thread.

 

[Zed1]

your thread has a lot of loopholes, and it totally shows that u r just a fanboy, stating facts you say?? we can interpret the same info in diff ways.....
1) how do you know that madara's full sussano has not been shown???? did madara say that he is not even using the full power of his sussano?? until there is CLEAR FACT that states that he is not using full power sussano dont ASSUME by comparing with itachi/sasuke.
2) Somewhere in the thread you state that sasuke when he reveals his full power will have some devine power???????? for gods sake DONT ASSUME! until chapters comes up that shows what sasuke has dont brag as if he is the strongest shinobi apart from edo madara ( that title btw goes to naruto ryt now)
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FOR those of you who think madara is just toying and could have killed the five kages long ago that link is the answer madara ryt there confessess that he was forced to use wood clone to save himself....

I dont deny that madara is greater than any single one of them but those of you who think he is way greater than 5 kages combined are just a piece of $hit cuz you guys are fanboys..... Also remember that the edo is enhanced by kabuto as klabuto gave him hashirama's power, but the real madara (madara minus hashiramas power) wud have been long defeated by now....

 

[Tdogg]

your thread has a lot of loopholes, and it totally shows that u r just a fanboy, stating facts you say?? we can interpret the same info in diff ways.....
1) how do you know that madara's full sussano has not been shown???? did madara say that he is not even using the full power of his sussano?? until there is CLEAR FACT that states that he is not using full power sussano dont ASSUME by comparing with itachi/sasuke.
2) Somewhere in the thread you state that sasuke when he reveals his full power will have some devine power???????? for gods sake DONT ASSUME! until chapters comes up that shows what sasuke has dont brag as if he is the strongest shinobi apart from edo madara ( that title btw goes to naruto ryt now)
3)

You must be registered for see links

FOR those of you who think madara is just toying and could have killed the five kages long ago that link is the answer madara ryt there confessess that he was forced to use wood clone to save himself....

I dont deny that madara is greater than any single one of them but those of you who think he is way greater than 5 kages combined are just a piece of $hit cuz you guys are fanboys..... Also remember that the edo is enhanced by kabuto as klabuto gave him hashirama's power, but the real madara (madara minus hashiramas power) wud have been long defeated by now....

get the fck out of here, you beezy.

 

[Anando]

it's good factual evidence but a little one sided, you bigged madara up so much you make hashi sound even more godly as he already is. You can just wait and see madara get pushed by people to use his full susanoo, laugh if 5 kages beat him :OOOO

 

[Anando]

your thread has a lot of loopholes, and it totally shows that u r just a fanboy, stating facts you say?? we can interpret the same info in diff ways.....
1) how do you know that madara's full sussano has not been shown???? did madara say that he is not even using the full power of his sussano?? until there is CLEAR FACT that states that he is not using full power sussano dont ASSUME by comparing with itachi/sasuke.
2) Somewhere in the thread you state that sasuke when he reveals his full power will have some devine power???????? for gods sake DONT ASSUME! until chapters comes up that shows what sasuke has dont brag as if he is the strongest shinobi apart from edo madara ( that title btw goes to naruto ryt now)
3)

You must be registered for see links

FOR those of you who think madara is just toying and could have killed the five kages long ago that link is the answer madara ryt there confessess that he was forced to use wood clone to save himself....

I dont deny that madara is greater than any single one of them but those of you who think he is way greater than 5 kages combined are just a piece of $hit cuz you guys are fanboys..... Also remember that the edo is enhanced by kabuto as klabuto gave him hashirama's power, but the real madara (madara minus hashiramas power) wud have been long defeated by now....

agreed part from the end

 

[-The Agent-]

You must have some extra pieces or something... Like I said before you have made up assumptions, such as, "Madaras Tsukyomi is gonna be better then Itachi's" or something like that. FALSE, this is an assumption but your saying it and commenting on it as if it is a fact.



Dude, I have liked pretty much all of your posts... Except this one. But I feel as though you didn't understand the original post. The thread maker isn't say they have their own skills, in fact he is giving characters, such as Madara techniques that he A. hasn't been showed or B. haven't heard him having.
You're right about the Itachi and Sasuke thing, never thought about it like that.

I did understand the original post. He was saying That madara's perception and techniques were completely different from every other Uchiha during his time. His eyes were able to see through Hashirama's techniques when others probably couldn't. Hence why he said "I was the only one who saw through the wood clone". So... Then I compared it to Itachi and Sasuke today. Shee (Raikage's guard) stated that sasuke might have surpassed Itachi in terms of Mangekyo sharingan. But that's not the reality. His skills with amaterasu was far superior to Itachi because he was able to manipulate it. But on the other hand His Tsukuyomi was no where near Itachi's level. Each eye depends on the user's perception, and skills. Itachi can F*ck you up in an instant with Tsukuyomi without most people noticing. While Sasuke was able to create his own elemental style with Amaterasu.

 

[psukkar]

I agree with most of this post that uchiha visual powers varry.


Just one think about madara's sassano. We have seen a full version, the one with legs. And despite this madara uses the rinnegan for defence more when he comes to powerful techs like the dust techs. And you would use the rinnegan to stop a bjuu dama rather than sassano for example.

Sassano has its limits we seen them.


as for the how powerful madara is alone is hard to say. He likes to spam hasihrama's jutsu. So that should tell you something in itself not to mention hes an edo tensei another senju tech.

So the only way to see how powerful he was is to watch the hasihrama vs madara ems fight. But even that madara used the fox and still lost to hasihrama, I dont think madara ems is very powerful and hence he planned his life on taking hasihrama's powers. Its make sense based from what we have seen so far.

 

[Easyfathom]

I did understand the original post. He was saying That madara's perception and techniques were completely different from every other Uchiha during his time. His eyes were able to see through Hashirama's techniques when others probably couldn't. Hence why he said "I was the only one who saw through the wood clone". So... Then I compared it to Itachi and Sasuke today. Shee (Raikage's guard) stated that sasuke might have surpassed Itachi in terms of Mangekyo sharingan. But that's not the reality. His skills with amaterasu was far superior to Itachi because he was able to manipulate it. But on the other hand His Tsukuyomi was no where near Itachi's level. Each eye depends on the user's perception, and skills. Itachi can F*ck you up in an instant with Tsukuyomi without most people noticing. While Sasuke was able to create his own elemental style with Amaterasu.

Aha, just read the OP and it has been changed and in my opinion a like it a lot better

Also was getting slightly confused with the thread makers thread because he
Made 2 pretty much the same and I was posting in both.

But true true, I do agree with you

 

[UnrealSoul]

Great points but in reality this all but an assumption with standard common sense.The only true thing you can clarify and hold up to is that EMS Madara was the 2nd strongest shinobi in narutoverse(Disregarding naruto for now).

 

[apple pie of doom]

Of course he is not overhyped.
First of all.
Only Hashirama was able to defeat him while he had his EMS.

Second, he now possesses Hashirama's powers as well, along with the rinnegan.
Quite obvious he is more powerfull than anyone in the manga at this moment, except ''perhaps'' Tobi, but we can't judge on that one yet.

Edo Madara > everyone else mixed into a bucket with the eggs on top.

 

[TobisPawn]

Nice thread.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Hashirama's DNA boosted his technique skills alot, gave him the Wood he's using all the time... Think about how Danzo was be able to use so many Sharingans because of the Hashirama Face thing, Madara has the same now...

But what ur saying is true man can't agree with you more Madara is super powerful I just hate the Rinnegan it doesn't fit on him at all.

 

[griems]

I really hope Madara said thank you after this suck fest lmao.

Jesus christ man...