EMS Madara is not overhyped: Uchiha visual powers varies from user to user

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i actually agree

 

[Easyfathom]

It's obvious you did not read my first post...

You had better hope that madara does not use a final version susanno because I am bookmarking this post.

If I turn out to be right your going to look extremely silly posting this response.

I already said theres a great possibility with evidence provided by the manga that he chose to use the Rinnegan and was not forced to use it like most believe.

So again for your pride lets hope that madara does not reveal a complete over powered fully armored susanno and the kages struggle against it.


But it seems that this thread needs more evidence so I will get more.

I read your post, assumptions, predictions and opinions is what I mainly saw. You clearly didn't read my post, otherwise you would of understood the point I was trying to make.

haha for my pride? I better hope? Dude, I didn't disagree these things "can" happen. The point I am trying to make is that you say these things as if they have already happened, as if they are a factor in a debate to support a character, when it reality, it's pure nonsense that is yet to be shown. Once again I AM NOT disagreeing that Madara may have a final form of Susanoo, my point is that it isn't a certainty that he will, so we can't add it to his regime like you have done.
If everything happens which has been said, there is nothing to throw back at me, I am not disagreeing with stuff that can happen later on in the manga since anything is possible, Kishi litterally could make the next villain "boneless chicken" from cow and chicken... So bookmark away, my pride and hopes won't be degraded in anyway shape or form.

As for Madara using Rinnegan to avoid FRS, ofc he didn't have to absorb it, he could of taken it straight to the ****, and guess what, boom he regenerates because he is an edo! Now I can't remember if it was here or your other thread which is pretty much the same but you said even if he didn't have the Rinnegan (and assuming you ment he wasn't an edo) then yeah, IMO he would of been butt-screwed. You said you showed using manga he chose to use Rinnegan, when on the link I showed you, it clearly shows that the Rinnegan was his only option there (apart from getting ripped to shreds then regenerating), but then again this was probably plot no jutsu so we didn't see his shoulder.

I'm going to look extremely silly... haha!

It's all good. I made this thread because I kind of figure whats going to happen.

EMS is not done yet.

Madara has to show us his final Susanno
His MS techs
and the 4th ems technique

That will pretty much prove that he was toying around with gaara, Naruto and Oonoki's attack and did not need to go into rinnegan.

I'm bookmarking this thread so I can say I told you so.

haha you sound like the biggest kid ever xD

This is what I am talking about. I am not disagreeing with you that these things can happen, but when you say stuff like...
"Madara has to show us his final Susanno
His MS techs
and the 4th ems technique"
You, without proof and certainty are saying he "has" all these things and when we haven't even seen them, but you say it like he automatically gets them.
This was the point I was getting at!

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

I read your post, assumptions, predictions and opinions is what I mainly saw. You clearly didn't read my post, otherwise you would of understood the point I was trying to make.

haha for my pride? I better hope? Dude, I didn't disagree these things "can" happen. The point I am trying to make is that you say these things as if they have already happened, as if they are a factor in a debate to support a character, when it reality, it's pure nonsense that is yet to be shown. Once again I AM NOT disagreeing that Madara may have a final form of Susanoo, my point is that it isn't a certainty that he will, so we can't add it to his regime like you have done.
If everything happens which has been said, there is nothing to throw back at me, I am not disagreeing with stuff that can happen later on in the manga since anything is possible, Kishi litterally could make the next villain "boneless chicken" from cow and chicken... So bookmark away, my pride and hopes won't be degraded in anyway shape or form.

As for Madara using Rinnegan to avoid FRS, ofc he didn't have to absorb it, he could of taken it straight to the ****, and guess what, boom he regenerates because he is an edo! Now I can't remember if it was here or your other thread which is pretty much the same but you said even if he didn't have the Rinnegan (and assuming you ment he wasn't an edo) then yeah, IMO he would of been butt-screwed. You said you showed using manga he chose to use Rinnegan, when on the link I showed you, it clearly shows that the Rinnegan was his only option there (apart from getting ripped to shreds then regenerating), but then again this was probably plot no jutsu so we didn't see his shoulder.

I'm going to look extremely silly... haha!



haha you sound like the biggest kid ever xD

This is what I am talking about. I am not disagreeing with you that these things can happen, but when you say stuff like...
"Madara has to show us his final Susanno
His MS techs
and the 4th ems technique"
You, without proof and certainty are saying he "has" all these things and when we haven't even seen them, but you say it like he automatically gets them.
This was the point I was getting at!

Well see what happens.

 

[Easyfathom]

Well see what happens.

As long as we carry on reading the manga / watching the anime, I guess we will

Do you get where I am coming from now?

P.S I actually ACTUALLY! Want Madara to be able to rewind time or whatever he did in that game clip. That would be pretty epic. Or see a bit into the future so he can kinda see what's coming, but this then has a short CD. Kinda OP techs though haha

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

Nice thread, good points man! Sad to see people hating on Madara by saying he is overhyped when he is clearly toying with the Kages... but again nice thread!

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Are you kishi? jk

On a serious note...Itachi's fully armored Susanno was impenetrable...

I seriously doubt A fully completed susanno from Madara which is more powerful then Itachi's susanno wouldn't be impenetrable as well.

And before you argue remember Madara and Itachi's susanno offensive attacks. Madara's susanno was way more powerful in incomplete form then Itachi's complete form.

If you don't believe me I will get the links but I would rather not because I'm lazy.

I didn't want to argue Susanoo's offensive or its exterior defensive abilities, I understand that those are pretty damn powerful

What I'm arguing is the fact that it doesn't matter if Madara is in a complete or incomplete Susanoo, I think that he can get dragged out from the inside out even if he had a complete Susanoo. A complete/incomplete Susanoo defends the user from exterior attacks, there wasn't much Madara could do in that situation since Gaara used the lightened sand under Madara's feet to pick him up and whip him into Naruto's Rasenshuriken. If Naruto had decided to just punch Madara's in the face while being enhanced by SM or KM, Madara would have been totally screwed and would have been sealed by the sealing team or Gaara after going down for a second. But of course for the sake of the plot this couldn't happen

Hence the pathetic downplaying of EMS that I stated in the previous thread. Put anyone in that situation and they're dead.

Exactly, all this hype about the EMS and it would have been defeated that fast. Also there's all this hype about Hashirama, and what did he do again? Of yeah he took down an EMS Madara, who was revived and lost within 2 minutes to two kids and an old man (albeit all Kage level and extremely powerful)

But the point remains the same, all this hype about Hashirama and an EMS Madara, and this is the result so far. Comon Kishi.....:sy:

 

[Qberto]

I have a few problems with your argument: 1) you do realize this is not madara, but an edo version with a Hashirama enhanced vessel,so you can't claim this is madara, 2) sasuke surpassing itachi on ability? He literally has itachi's eyes & the abilities inherent in them. Granted, he seems to be doing some different things, but who's to say itachi couldn't already do it & sasuke just figured out how too, 3) Kakashi has a pseudo sharingan? His eye is an uchiha eye,so your stating it's not a real sharingan befuddles me. He is trailblazing as a single sharingan user. That's why his eye & ability are totally different from what has come before. Not a fanboy, but your talking down of Kakashi is unacceptable. Duh, he is not an uchiha, thus he cannot use his sharingan like an uchiha, but he uses it pretty damn well!

 

[-Vegeta-]

I didn't want to argue Susanoo's offensive or its exterior defensive abilities, I understand that those are pretty damn powerful

What I'm arguing is the fact that it doesn't matter if Madara is in a complete or incomplete Susanoo, I think that he can get dragged out from the inside out even if he had a complete Susanoo. A complete/incomplete Susanoo defends the user from exterior attacks, there wasn't much Madara could do in that situation since Gaara used the lightened sand under Madara's feet to pick him up and whip him into Naruto's Rasenshuriken. If Naruto had decided to just punch Madara's in the face while being enhanced by SM or KM, Madara would have been totally screwed and would have been sealed by the sealing team or Gaara after going down for a second. But of course for the sake of the plot this couldn't happen



Exactly, all this hype about the EMS and it would have been defeated that fast. Also there's all this hype about Hashirama, and what did he do again? Of yeah he took down an EMS Madara, who was revived and lost within 2 minutes to two kids and an old man (albeit all Kage level and extremely powerful)

But the point remains the same, all this hype about Hashirama and an EMS Madara, and this is the result so far. Comon Kishi.....:sy:

Did you not just get what I said? Put anyone in that situation bar rinnegan users and they're dead. Itachi, Sasuke, Naruto, Hashirama, Minato, Hiruzen, and etc. That in no way proves anything about the EMS being weak and is simply a pathetic attempt to downplay it.

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

I didn't want to argue Susanoo's offensive or its exterior defensive abilities, I understand that those are pretty damn powerful

What I'm arguing is the fact that it doesn't matter if Madara is in a complete or incomplete Susanoo, I think that he can get dragged out from the inside out even if he had a complete Susanoo. A complete/incomplete Susanoo defends the user from exterior attacks, there wasn't much Madara could do in that situation since Gaara used the lightened sand under Madara's feet to pick him up and whip him into Naruto's Rasenshuriken. If Naruto had decided to just punch Madara's in the face while being enhanced by SM or KM, Madara would have been totally screwed and would have been sealed by the sealing team or Gaara after going down for a second. But of course for the sake of the plot this couldn't happen



Exactly, all this hype about the EMS and it would have been defeated that fast. Also there's all this hype about Hashirama, and what did he do again? Of yeah he took down an EMS Madara, who was revived and lost within 2 minutes to two kids and an old man (albeit all Kage level and extremely powerful)

But the point remains the same, all this hype about Hashirama and an EMS Madara, and this is the result so far. Comon Kishi.....:sy:

1) Madara is trying out the rinnegan and mokuton jutsus. He's toying around with the Kages.
2) He will obviously show the true powers of the EMS. He did not show his MS techs. His final Susanno and the 4th EMS jutsu..I've already provided evidence that everything about him is super. He has super perception, super predicitability, a super sharingan, and super fire techs. HIS MS will be super and his final susanno will be super.
3) The rinnegan was revealed for plot and only plot and we should see the true extent of the EMS

Finally...Madara besides Sasuke may have the most powerful susanno in the entire manga..I have a right to speculate on its amazing abilities because I provided evidence that everything about Madara is super as a far as Uchiha abilities go. Your downplaying Madara's final susanno when its already been stated in the manga that susanno is directly linked to the Uchiha's chakra and
Madara has the most powerful chakra out all Uchiha.

For all we know the only way to combat Madara's final susanno is mokuton jutsu or have special powers....

All I have to say is we will see..

I have a few problems with your argument: 1) you do realize this is not madara, but an edo version with a Hashirama enhanced vessel,so you can't claim this is madara, 2) sasuke surpassing itachi on ability? He literally has itachi's eyes & the abilities inherent in them. Granted, he seems to be doing some different things, but who's to say itachi couldn't already do it & sasuke just figured out how too, 3) Kakashi has a pseudo sharingan? His eye is an uchiha eye,so your stating it's not a real sharingan befuddles me. He is trailblazing as a single sharingan user. That's why his eye & ability are totally different from what has come before. Not a fanboy, but your talking down of Kakashi is unacceptable. Duh, he is not an uchiha, thus he cannot use his sharingan like an uchiha, but he uses it pretty damn well!

1) I never commented on the madara's rinnegan and mukuton abilities...The only thing that was enhanced about madara was obtain the 1st Hokages powers. Even the rinnegan is Madara's power naturally. Again I never commented on the rinnegan in the openig post. It was strictly about EMS Madara.

2) I really don't think you read my post. Its already been stated in the manga numerous times that Sasuke's EYES will surpass Itachi. It doesn't matter if they were originally Itachi's. I never once said Sasuke the ninja will surpass Itachi the ninja. The manga said his eyes will.


We all refer to Kakashi's sharingan as kakashi's sharingan right? He's the one who is advancing it not Obito. Same thing with Sasuke.

 

[Mystery God]

Madara > Sage of the Six Paths

Are you kidding me. The sage of six paths is considered is considered to be so strong that he created 1/4 of earth's diameter(moon) without much difficulty. He gave birth to rinnegan and sharingan. He knew all it's secrets.

 

[Uchiha Madara.]

i had no need to read your thread

it is and it is and it is overhype....

kishi is showing he can take on five kages

due to the power of the kage's he is not able

to kill not even one of them but he can hold on, plus edo save hes life a bunch of time

and if it wast for the rinnegan too. so now are telling me is not over hype? lol i think he is

ohh and hashirama DNA

if you dont even read his thread dont even bother to reply to it i dont know if u have been reading the manga but he explained why he let onoki hit him and hes not even serious hes been testing his powers like the whole battle toying around and yes edo does save his life he knows that, thats why he doesnt bother to doge or block it or use rinnegan techs
and the rinnegan is just his tech he got hashirama's dna yes so ? its the same as kakashi using his sharingan or oro wanting sasuke and itachi's sharingan hes not over hyped at all he is very strong anyone who denys that is just a hater. U_U

Hey nice thread, +rep. Keep doing what you do

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So many flaws in this thread.

1- Sasuke could spam his Sharingan because he has more chakra than Kakashi?

Lol, let me correct you, Sasuke is an Uchiha, the Sharingan don't consume much chakra if the user is an Uchiha, and BTW, Karin gave him more chakra in that fight (vs Danzo).

2- Sasuke's Susanoo is better than Itachi's?

Lol again, I doubt that Sasuke's Susanoo is better than Itachi's, but knowing that Itachi's Susanoo has legendary weapons totally destroys your idea, Itachi's Susanoo > Sasuke's.

he does have more chakra then kakashi plus hes way stronger then him
its true sasuke is a uchiha so hes better with sharingan but saying karin gave him more chakra to beat danzo is just bullsht that was at the end when danzo was already defeated

and i do think sasuke's susanoo will get better then itachi if it isnt already only thing itachi has what sasuke doesnt is his legendary items


anyways nice thread man ;D

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

if you dont even read his thread dont even bother to reply to it i dont know if u have been reading the manga but he explained why he let onoki hit him and hes not even serious hes been testing his powers like the whole battle toying around and yes edo does save his life he knows that, thats why he doesnt bother to doge or block it or use rinnegan techs
and the rinnegan is just his tech he got hashirama's dna yes so ? its the same as kakashi using his sharingan or oro wanting sasuke and itachi's sharingan hes not over hyped at all he is very strong anyone who denys that is just a hater. U_U



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he does have more chakra then kakashi plus hes way stronger then him
its true sasuke is a uchiha so hes better with sharingan but saying karin gave him more chakra to beat danzo is just bullsht that was at the end when danzo was already defeated

and i do think sasuke's susanoo will get better then itachi if it isnt already only thing itachi has what sasuke doesnt is his legendary items


anyways nice thread man ;D

Thanks. I think people have hard time swallowing how powerful EMS Madara really is. They mind as well stop reading the manga because the true power of the EMS Will be revealed shortly either through Sasuke or Madara but it will most likely be both.

 

[xxbkrawkxx]

madara = brolly

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

madara = brolly

Thats a good analogy...

Madara is the Brolly of the Uchihas..

 

[blackbird31468]

not bad. at first i thought his was going to be a fanboy thread, but it turned out to have some very interesting things and could become true.

 

[-The Agent-]

This is an amazing thread. I'm surprised I didn't see it before. I'm actually surprised people were actually hating on this.

You are right. Each Uchiha has their own skill. I've been agreeing with this for the longest. Itachi's Tsukuyomi is far superior to Sasuke's, But Sasuke's Amaterasu surpasses Itachi's. Just shows. A prime exmaple of what you were talking about.

+ rep

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Did you not just get what I said? Put anyone in that situation bar rinnegan users and they're dead. Itachi, Sasuke, Naruto, Hashirama, Minato, Hiruzen, and etc. That in no way proves anything about the EMS being weak and is simply a pathetic attempt to downplay it.

I was thinking if Madara could amaterasu to eat the rasenshuriken, then enton it away from his way.

I mean it would have been more respectable for EMS, than relying on the rinnegan

 

[No Way]

one word.....AWESOME.....

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

This is an amazing thread. I'm surprised I didn't see it before. I'm actually surprised people were actually hating on this.

You are right. Each Uchiha has their own skill. I've been agreeing with this for the longest. Itachi's Tsukuyomi is far superior to Sasuke's, But Sasuke's Amaterasu surpasses Itachi's. Just shows. A prime exmaple of what you were talking about.

+ rep

Thanks. People have a hard time swallowing the truth. All my threads do is take pieces of the manga and I treat them like a puzzle and put it together.

 

[hearteaterx]

Are you kishi? jk

On a serious note...Itachi's fully armored Susanno was impenetrable...

I seriously doubt A fully completed susanno from Madara which is more powerful then Itachi's susanno wouldn't be impenetrable as well.

And before you argue remember Madara and Itachi's susanno offensive attacks. Madara's susanno was way more powerful in incomplete form then Itachi's complete form.

If you don't believe me I will get the links but I would rather not because I'm lazy.

Where'd you hear that Madara's susano'o is more powerful than Itachi's? Itachi's susano'o is clearly more powerful than Madara's. Itachi has spirit items.