EMS counts as Uchiha clan power not outside power source

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Kurama was owned by the leaf which was founded by the senju and uchiha.



This is what I mean. How can it be a outside power for an individual when they're born with the sharingan?
Are they born with the power of 2 different Mangekyou Sharingans or only 1 pair?
 

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The EMS is simply the Mangekyo Sharingan without blindness. If swapping eyes meant you'd get the powers of the former user along with your current powers then that would be an outside power source. Since Sasuke never gained Tsukuyomi or any new powers from Itachi, along with Madara concerning Izuna, it's safe to say that it isn't an outside power source.

The Sharingan is their Kekkei Genkai, it's their own power from their DNA. Swapping eyes with someone especially when it doesn't give new abilities is not gaining an outside power because no powers are added.

An outside power is something that you rely on to give you strength that's usually sentient or does not belong to you, as in the Curse-mark and the Nine-Tails. The Sharingan is not an outside power if wielded by an Uchiha and the EMS is simply a negation of blindness. The problem is that fans of Naruto don't like the odds when SM Naruto is against EMS Sasuke but that's not my problem, Naruto could still win.
It's a power they can't get on their own, but having to rely on 2 different pair of MS eyes. Thus making it an outside power source.
 

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Are they born with the power of 2 different Mangekyou Sharingans or only 1 pair?
How are people still denying this ? Every god-tier individual has some form of outside source of power in some way, even Kaguya's shinju isn't originally her own. Smh xD


Although I think the original idea behind the thread is, yes Sasuke and Naruto have outside power sources, BUT those power sources can only be used by their bloodline so in a way it kinda makes it their own.
 

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How are people still denying this ? Every god-tier individual has some form of outside source of power in some way, even Kaguya's shinju isn't originally her own. Smh xD


Although I think the original idea behind the thread is, yes Sasuke and Naruto have outside power sources, BUT those power sources can only be used by their bloodline so in a way it kinda makes it their own.
They're in denial it's obviously an outside power source.
 

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It takes two, I repeat Two Uchiha's Sharingan to get EMS. It's an outside power, concerning an individual whether you like it or not.
Lets not forget there another requirement it requires 2 brother or sister to gain EMS, for now it is impossible for Sarada to even gain EMS without a sibling.
 

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How are people still denying this ? Every god-tier individual has some form of outside source of power in some way, even Kaguya's shinju isn't originally her own. Smh xD


Although I think the original idea behind the thread is, yes Sasuke and Naruto have outside power sources, BUT those power sources can only be used by their bloodline so in a way it kinda makes it their own.
Hashirama is god tier yet he doesn't have borrowed or stolen powers and the same goes to Gai with his gates.

Only the Uchiha clan can get Sharingan, MS and ESM no one else naturally. As for Jinchuuriki any clan can be a Jinchuuriki, it is not clan exclusive. Even Minato who isn't in a bloodline limit can use Kurama perfectly as a Jinchuuriki.
 
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