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Actually, I'm one of the few who remembers your stupid posts when you were MinatoTheYellowFlash.

I don't have the patience to explain over and over how easy it is that Naruto wins, you're just clouded by stupid bias against Naruto; a fictional character.

Obviously I'm not when plenty agree with me.

And I only switched because it glitching or whatever, nothing changed, still dodging them questions I see.
 

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Are you really so simple minded as to believe that this battle is only won by the bigger, flashier explosion?

Me, simple minded? Why can't you comprehend that small tactics don't matter for Rikudou level fights? It does not matter at all.

Rewrite the battle, but without the Bijuu. Sasuke battles Naruto's avatar, they stalemate. Naruto fuses his clones to gain his Ashura's avatar and nukes Sasuke's inferior chakra construct. Sasuke falls and Naruto prevails. What small tactic could have any chance of changing the tide of this fight?
 

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Me, simple minded? Why can't you comprehend that small tactics don't matter for Rikudou level fights? It does not matter at all.

Rewrite the battle, but without the Bijuu. Sasuke battles Naruto's avatar, they stalemate. Naruto fuses his clones to gain his Ashura's avatar and nukes Sasuke's inferior chakra construct. Sasuke falls and Naruto prevails. What small tactic could have any chance of changing the tide of this fight?

1. Rinnegan Genjutsu. "But Kurama breaks it!" Yes I know, but what people like you always forget is that there is a margin of about 5 seconds, in which the Jinchuriki is still incapacitated, while the Bijuu releases the Genjutsu.
2. Amenotejikara. So fast that conscious RSM Naruto barely dodged Sasuke's strike.
3. Senjutsu Chidori Sharp Spear. Powerful enough to bisect JJMadara even without added Senjutsu

And that's just one scenario.

Small tactics are everything in hypothetical scenarios. It's not my fault that Kishi downplayed OP jutsus for big flashy explosions in his plot.
 

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Being part of the Sasuke fan base sometimes makes me cry. Why won't you imbeciles realizes that without his Bijuu Susano'o he's below Naruto? Get over it.

Because naruto always has another live being helping with strategy and insight

Remove the biju from both and it's highly likely sasuke wins (Not kurama chakra only his consciousness)

This thread isn't completely off base but for the most part as long as the kyubi is advising naruto sasuke can only tie
 

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That bonehead negs everyone who doesn't share his views.

No. Just morons who like to ***** and whine instead of bring relevant information. You might note that Korasi has received no such neg. I respect his opinion, unlike the opinions of the two of you.
 

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1. Rinnegan Genjutsu. "But Kurama breaks it!" Yes I know, but what people like you always forget is that there is a margin of about 5 seconds, in which the Jinchuriki is still incapacitated, while the Bijuu releases the Genjutsu.
2. Amenotejikara. So fast that conscious RSM Naruto barely dodged Sasuke's strike.
3. Senjutsu Chidori Sharp Spear. Powerful enough to bisect JJMadara even without added Senjutsu

And that's just one scenario.

Small tactics are everything in hypothetical scenarios. It's not my fault that Kishi downplayed OP jutsus for big flashy explosions in his plot.

I'm going to sleep, so I'll make a much longer detailed post when I get on tomorrow but I'll address these quickly.

1. You're entirely correct, but it still doesn't mean Sasuke is killing him within that 5 seconds. Naruto tanked a Chidori with no damage to him at all. Sasuke doesn't have any attack fast enough that I know of, besides Chidori, that doesn't involve spawning Susano'o (arrows) which would be detrimental to Naruto in the time it would take for Kurama to break him out of Genjutsu.
2. Why are you forgetting to mention that Sasuke used a diversion (Katon) and that Naruto didn't even have his RSM cloak activated? In a supposed hypothetical scenario (intel) Naruto knows that's coming and also has RSM up before Sasuke even tries.
3. And remind me how that's even touching Naruto? Did you forget he can use Kurama's chakra as a proxy? The same chakra that laughs off Amaterasu, and in a weaker form tanks Juubi sized Katon with ease and the Juubi's Tenpenchi with no damage at all?
 

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No. Just morons who like to ***** and whine instead of bring relevant information. You might note that Korasi has received no such neg. I respect his opinion, unlike the opinions of the two of you.

I'm not the one writing fanfiction scenarios about a fight that already happened, bonehead.

 

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I'm going to sleep, so I'll make a much longer detailed post when I get on tomorrow but I'll address these quickly.

1. You're entirely correct, but it still doesn't mean Sasuke is killing him within that 5 seconds. Naruto tanked a Chidori with no damage to him at all. Sasuke doesn't have any attack fast enough that I know of, besides Chidori, that doesn't involve spawning Susano'o (arrows) which would be detrimental to Naruto in the time it would take for Kurama to break him out of Genjutsu.
2. Why are you forgetting to mention that Sasuke used a diversion (Katon) and that Naruto didn't even have his RSM cloak activated? In a supposed hypothetical scenario (intel) Naruto knows that's coming and also has RSM up before Sasuke even tries.
3. And remind me how that's even touching Naruto? Did you forget he can use Kurama's chakra as a proxy? The same chakra that laughs off Amaterasu, and in a weaker form tanks Juubi sized Katon with ease and the Juubi's Tenpenchi with no damage at all?

Naruto dodged a Chidori. He didn't tank it in any regard.

RSM sensing is the only thing that kept him alive against his strike. The diversion was foolish, as Naruto's line of sight has nothing to do with his ability to dodge, so regardless of the diversion, Naruto was at his peak in terms of reaction time.

The same way I just mentioned. Genjutsu to knock him down, Amnotejikara to close the distance, and Chidori to end it. No consciousness, no Bijuu cloak, no surviving. (Not to mention that JJMadara likely has even better durability feats than Naruto's RSM cloak, but that's another debate in and of itself.)

EDIT- Thank God. It's 2:00am here, so I'm off too. Quote me if you want to continue tomorrow.
 
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Me, simple minded? Why can't you comprehend that small tactics don't matter for Rikudou level fights? It does not matter at all.

Rewrite the battle, but without the Bijuu. Sasuke battles Naruto's avatar, they stalemate. Naruto fuses his clones to gain his Ashura's avatar and nukes Sasuke's inferior chakra construct. Sasuke falls and Naruto prevails. What small tactic could have any chance of changing the tide of this fight?

Sasuke s/t on ps + chidori can shit on AAC
Avatars and susanoo will even out
The fights come down to human combat period
 

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No. Just morons who like to ***** and whine instead of bring relevant information. You might note that Korasi has received no such neg. I respect his opinion, unlike the opinions of the two of you.
So I got negged because I didn't agree with your shitty argument that chakra is chakra?
Seriously dude did you even read the Rasenshuriken training portions of the manga?? you know there's a reason why Naruto had to train in slicing the leafs and got advice for someone with the same nature type as him even though there was two other guys with multiple nature types.
 
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So I got negged because I didn't agree with your shitty argument that chakra is chakra?
Seriously dude did you even read the Rasenshuriken training portions of the manga?? you there's a reason why Naruto had to train in slicing the leafs and got advice for someone with the same nature type as him even though there was two other guys with multiple nature types.

Told you, that guy's a bonehead.
 

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C2 Sasuke = 2 Tail Naruto Lol. 3 tomoe+C2 Sasuke=> 1 tail Naruto

MS Sasuke = SM Naruto By feats SM Naruto shits on MS Sasuke, especially half-blind Sasuke.

EMS Sasuke = BM Naruto EMS Sasuke too much featless with compare to BM Naruto

EMS Sasuke < BSM Naruto

Rinnegan Sasuke > RSM Naruto No,"I need the Bijuus"

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lolollool no son,stop fapping

CM sasuke>1 tail naruto high diff
SM naruto>MS sasuke extreme diff
KCM naruto=legged sousano sasuke
BM Naruto>Ems
BSM>EMS
RSM>Rinnegan sasuke mid diff
Fail.
Being part of the Sasuke fan base sometimes makes me cry. Why won't you imbeciles realizes that without his Bijuu Susano'o he's below Naruto? Get over it.
it was a draw
Dam tras, tell'em.




What my bro Korasi said.

There's no way that rinnegan sasuke is = or > RSM naruto without absorbing all bijuus.
Sasuke = Naruto rinnegan was equal to rsm and bijuu susano'o equal to NE Avatar Kochi portrays Naruto and sasuke as equals yet people say Naruto or Sasuke is stronger smh.
 
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Rinnegan Sasuke< RSM Naruto

Rinnegan+tailed beasts chakra Sasuke=RSM Naruto

No, Rinnegan Sasuke + 8.5 bijuu = War exhausted RSM Naruto without killing intent, even than sasuke lost. Mangafacts :)
 

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Does you'll think that VOTE 2 fight really end that way logically? it because I think for the sake of ending his manga Kishi just wrote that fighting plots very lightly.

I didn't think what I really saw in those chapters is the true fight or how fight should be done.

Kishi is renown for botching his fights writing many time.

I will not take this fight as cannon because I knew Kishi way of writing.

I admitted that adult Sasuke and Naruto is equal but not in VOTE 2 fight.

Rikudou Kurama Naruto stronger than Rinnegan Sasuke with Bijuus chakra, Bullsh*t.
 
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Manga has ended but sasuke fappers don't accept the truth.

Rinnegan sasuke is weaker than RSM naruto.he needed 9 bijuus to fight against naruto who only had half kyuubi.

In the last, KCM naruto has defeated Tensiegan user who is meant to be equal to the rinnegan user.

So that means future KCM naruto has become stronger than Rinnegan user.
 

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Jesus Christ.

Rinnegan Sasuke has Bijuu Chakra, that's it, it's far more a part of his power than Kurama asspulling enough Senjutsu chakra into Naruto's hands to combat Indra's arrow. The Indra Susano'o involves a portion of chakra taken from the Bijuu, manipulated on the level of the Sage, and converted into Sasuke's own chakra type. It is as much a part of Sasuke's power as is Naruto taking chakra from nature. This whole argument is based on pure semantics that has absolutely no meaning or relevance to their fight.
 
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