EMS amaterasu superior

[slimreaper]

Lol'd at people saying a manga page was outdated. Looks like we can't use any feats from part 1 since they're outdated.

when we have a newer page clearly contradicting it? try again noob

 

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when we have a newer page clearly contradicting it? try again noob

Is it a new page released by Kishi. I mean the exact same panels just revised, like you suggest. Otherwise how can you say it's, "outdated".

 

[slimreaper]

Is it a new page released by Kishi. I mean the exact same panels just revised, like you suggest. Otherwise how can you say it's, "outdated".

until you can disprove its validity I have the proof and you don't. if proven wrong I will gladly retract my statement. But until then the first pic is outdated and will be treated as such

 

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until you can disprove its validity I have the proof and you don't. if proven wrong I will gladly retract my statement. But until then the first pic is outdated and will be treated as such

Sasuke's EMS bled... How are you disproving manga fact by saying it's outdated. If manga can be outdated, then I ca refute anything you say, by saying it's outdated.

Genma > Itachi. Itachi is dead, instant win for Genma. Itachi being alive is outdated, sorry.

 

[slimreaper]

Sasuke's EMS bled... How are you disproving manga fact by saying it's outdated. If manga can be outdated, then I ca refute anything you say, by saying it's outdated.

Genma > Itachi. Itachi is dead, instant win for Genma. Itachi being alive is outdated, sorry.

What you are saying doesn't make any sense. How can you beat someone who is dead? how can you fight someone who is dead? sure genma is alive but you have no manga scans to suggest genma is greater than a living itach. and comparing a living genma to a dead itachi is apples and oranges.

On to the point at hand. I have manga proof that disputes your claim that sasuke still bleeds. Considering my proof is the most recent form, how is this even disputable? you are using horrible examples.

part 1 scans are outdated if they have a newer scan that clearly says different from them. EX: Hiruzen is the God of shinobi. You don't dispute that Hashirama is actually greater than Hiruzen do you? Why would you dispute that sasuke doesn't bleed? When I have actually proof that he no longer does.

 

[adeshina365]

About the Amaterasu bleeding issue.

Remember folks, Sasuke specifically says that he hadn't fully adapted to the EMS before he joined up with Itachi. It makes sense that as time goes on, he'll get more adjusted to the EMS and any remaining strain will disappear.

The latest scan that he uses Amaterasu is proof of that. Since its the latest scan, Sasuke's eyes no longer bleed from Amaterasu.

 

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What you are saying doesn't make any sense. How can you beat someone who is dead? how can you fight someone who is dead? sure genma is alive but you have no manga scans to suggest genma is greater than a living itach. and comparing a living genma to a dead itachi is apples and oranges.

On to the point at hand. I have manga proof that disputes your claim that sasuke still bleeds. Considering my proof is the most recent form, how is this even disputable? you are using horrible examples.

part 1 scans are outdated if they have a newer scan that clearly says different from them. EX: Hiruzen is the God of shinobi. You don't dispute that Hashirama is actually greater than Hiruzen do you? Why would you dispute that sasuke doesn't bleed? When I have actually proof that he no longer does.

1. That was the point. Itachi being alive is outdated. I'm applying your logic to different scenarios, and as you've understood, it sounds stupid.

2. "Sasuke still bleeds" That was never my claim. My claim was EMS can still bleed despite it being EMS. Your claim was EMS doesn't bleed, while mine was, it has, which is proven by manga fact. So basically if Sasuke's chakra reserves get extremely low, his eyes will likely start to bleed again, as it's straining his body to use it.

3. Hiruzen is still the god of Shinobi, he merely shares the title... :|

/yourlogic

 

[slimreaper]

1. That was the point. Itachi being alive is outdated. I'm applying your logic to different scenarios, and as you've understood, it sounds stupid.

2. "Sasuke still bleeds" That was never my claim. My claim was EMS can still bleed despite it being EMS. Your claim was EMS doesn't bleed, while mine was, it has, which is proven by manga fact. So basically if Sasuke's chakra reserves get extremely low, his eyes will likely start to bleed again, as it's straining his body to use it.



3. Hiruzen is still the god of Shinobi, he merely shares the title... :|

/yourlogic

the entire point of this thread was to clarify that EMS amaterasu is greater than MS amatetasu, because it doesn't have the same tell. your only answer is that sasuke may bleed if tired. that is speculation, so you don't disprove the Op.

sure genma is greater than dead itachi

The difference between your example and mine is mine are directly connected and contradicting. You are using examples that are in no way related and aren't suggested in the manga.

As far as hiruzen "sharing" the title

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NO Fukking way

 

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the entire point of this thread was to clarify that EMS amaterasu is greater than MS amatetasu, because it doesn't have the same tell. your only answer is that sasuke may bleed if tired. that is speculation, so you don't disprove the Op.

sure genma is greater than dead itachi

The difference between your example and mine is mine are directly connected and contradicting. You are using examples that are in no way related and aren't suggested in the manga.

As far as hiruzen "sharing" the title

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1. Lol, what's the tell? You've completely lost me? Do you just mean the bleeding? Regardless of the bleeding, wouldn't it be obvious one he lunges one side of his face at you and his eye starts bulging out of his head.

2. No, you misunderstood your own logic! Genma > Itachi because he is dead!

3. Hiruzen shares the title...? It's like being titled Professor. You aren't the best Professor, but you're still a professor. Hiruzen isn't the best god of shinobi, but he's still a god of shinobi. The reason he gets that title is because he has accomplished so much with absolutely no power-ups. The only thing the Sarutobi clan is known for is their Katon, as are the Uchiha. Hiruzen is a God of Shinobi.

 

[slimreaper]

1. Lol, what's the tell? You've completely lost me? Do you just mean the bleeding? Regardless of the bleeding, wouldn't it be obvious one he lunges one side of his face at you and his eye starts bulging out of his head.

2. No, you misunderstood your own logic! Genma > Itachi because he is dead!

3. Hiruzen shares the title...? It's like being titled Professor. You aren't the best Professor, but you're still a professor. Hiruzen isn't the best god of shinobi, but he's still a god of shinobi. The reason he gets that title is because he has accomplished so much with absolutely no power-ups. The only thing the Sarutobi clan is known for is their Katon, as are the Uchiha. Hiruzen is a God of Shinobi.

1. he doesn't have to lunge he can just shoot it without motion
2. sure whatever. the point is I have the newest scan there for until disproved it is the most recent development in the manga so it is "more cannon"
3. Hirzuen is never referred to as "a god of shinobi" he is referred to as "the god of shinobi". "THE" meaning singular

 

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1. he doesn't have to lunge he can just shoot it without motion
2. sure whatever. the point is I have the newest scan there for until disproved it is the most recent development in the manga so it is "more cannon"
3. Hirzuen is never referred to as "a god of shinobi" he is referred to as "the god of shinobi". "THE" meaning singular

1. Scan of him shooting it without his eye bulging out, or him moving at all...?
2. "More canon" /thread
3. Well that was before Hashirama was even introduced. Now wouldn't you say that is, "outdated".

 

[Xāvî1]

Does it really matter what is done is done so deal with it

 

[KidGamer65]

lmao, some of the posts regarding Sasuke bleeding or not are straight up idiotic. Obviously you can't use and older scan for this because a newer scan shows that he didn't bleed. (Unless its corrected later) By that dumb logic I can post a scan of Naruto's 5 minute BM time limit and say its still true just because it was shown in the manga despite a newer page saying its 8 minutes.

 

[Exaar]

That is old and outdated manga page, the latest manga page suggests the bleeding doesn't occur.
It makes sense since EMS was said to give no drawbacks to body.

You do realize kishi does leave out small details when he draws stuff?, Like Sasuke's Eyes not bleeding when using Amaterasu.
Sasuke's Eyes have already showed Sign's of bleeding, So for me that was a simply drawing error for kishi.

 

[slimreaper]

1. Scan of him shooting it without his eye bulging out, or him moving at all...?
2. "More canon" /thread
3. Well that was before Hashirama was even introduced. Now wouldn't you say that is, "outdated".

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hashi was introduced, he fought hiruzen. Kishi intended for hiruzen to be god of shinobi in part 1. he then contradicts himself. Hashirama is now considered god of shinobi