Eight gates guy vs jubbito

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So you're saying there immortal?? Madara himself said he almost died and he's considerably stronger than any form of jubbito, jubbi jinchuriki are tough to kill but not immortal
Madara has said alot of questionable things... Lets just say Gai could kill Juubito remember he still has a sharingan so if he could die he could use izanagi with his sharingan that is useless while in Juubi form since he cannot use Kamui...
 

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Gai was heavily exhausted, had a broken arm, and several broken ribcages before going 8th gate. Logic dictates that an 8th gate performance from him when starting fresh will be even more impressive.

Madara stated that it was the "fates" that allowed him to survive, and that Gai nearly killed him. Gai has the potential to kill a Juubi Jinchuuriki before they can properly regenerate.
 
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To me that looks worse than night gai, who really cares about madara's statement when the damage speaks for itself.
We'll if Madara is stronger than juubito and he said it almost killed him than it kind if matters.

And actually it doesn't even look more impressive than night guy.

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Pay attention to what madara says and the after affect of night guy
 

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Gai was heavily exhausted, had a broken arm, and several broken ribcages before going 8th gate. Logic dictates that an 8th gate performance from him when starting fresh will be even more impressive.

Madara stated that it was the "fates" that allowed him to survive, and that Gai nearly killed him. Gai has the potential to kill a Juubi Jinchuuriki before they can properly regenerate.
Agree with this

Madara has said alot of questionable things... Lets just say Gai could kill Juubito remember he still has a sharingan so if he could die he could use izanagi with his sharingan that is useless while in Juubi form since he cannot use Kamui...
Well Mindless jubbito can't use izanagi so that's out of the question and I don't think jubbito(after he took control of Jubbi) would use izanagi on his precious eye that has one of the most hax techniques in the manga plus guy could also potentially speed blitz him before he has a chance to use izanagi as madara stated he couldn't even move when guy used event elephant
 

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We'll if Madara is stronger than juubito and he said it almost killed him than it kind if matters.
And where is it stated that madara's durability surpasses obito's?

And actually it doesn't even look more impressive than night guy.

Look at these links




Pay attention to what madara says and the after affect of night guy
Again that shows me nothing, the bijuudama obliterated more of juubito than night gai did to madara. Yeah obito's wound is cleaner but it's deeper, madara's wound looks bad but the damage is obviously of a smaller scale.

& Why am I paying attention to madara's words? They mean nothing when comparing the damage. How do you know if the damage from the juubidama wouldn't cause madara to say the same thing? Just because night gai put madara at near death doesn't mean that the juubidama wouldn't do the same or even worse.
 

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And where is it stated that madara's durability surpasses obito's?



Again that shows me nothing, the bijuudama obliterated more of juubito than night gai did to madara. Yeah obito's wound is cleaner but it's deeper, madara's wound looks bad but the damage is obviously of a smaller scale.

& Why am I paying attention to madara's words? They mean nothing when comparing the damage. How do you know if the damage from the juubidama wouldn't cause madara to say the same thing? Just because night gai put madara at near death doesn't mean that the juubidama wouldn't do the same or even worse.
Well madara has a more complete Juubi then obito did so it's pretty clear his durability should be higher......

I'll make this clear

Rikodu madaras durability> juubitos
Night guy almost killed madara In fact madara said it was up to the fates to decide if he dies or not

So..............

Night guy will extremely injure jubbito if not kill him
 

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Well madara has a more complete Juubi then obito did so it's pretty clear his durability should be higher......

I'll make this clear

Rikodu madaras durability> juubitos
Night guy almost killed madara In fact madara said it was up to the fates to decide if he dies or not

So..............

Night guy will extremely injure jubbito if not kill him
You cant just say madara > Obito in everything because he has more of the Juubi.

Anyway, Gai has nothing to get through an Omnyoudon sphere, or tank 4 Juubijuudamas.
 

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You cant just say madara > Obito in everything because he has more of the Juubi.

Anyway, Gai has nothing to get through an Omnyoudon sphere, or tank 4 Juubijuudamas.
Well madara is faster (feats)

Madara Has better reaction time ( madara cut minatos arm and kicked him away before he could even use ftg... while obito could only cut minatos arm and minato flew away with ftg... Tobirama teleported sm naruto and he rasenganed obito.... no one but eight gate guy could touch madara)

Madaras stronger ( stated by Minato and it's clear cause he has a more complete jubbi)

More of the jubbi>>> less of the jubbi in every way
 

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Well madara has a more complete Juubi then obito did so it's pretty clear his durability should be higher......

I'll make this clear

Rikodu madaras durability> juubitos
You have no proof that madara's durability is higher just because he has more of kurama's chakra. You're speculating that more chakra would make for more defense. Sure madara has more chakra which would make for more devastating attacks but that in no way means that his defenses are greater than obito's.

Night guy almost killed madara In fact madara said it was up to the fates to decide if he dies or not

So..............

Night guy will extremely injure jubbito if not kill him
As I said a dozen times over, with this logic you're saying that night gai is more powerful than a juubidama which is preposterous to say the least.
 

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You have no proof that madara's durability is higher just because he has more of kurama's chakra. You're speculating that more chakra would make for more defense. Sure madara has more chakra which would make for more devastating attacks but that in no way means that his defenses are greater than obito's.

As I said a dozen times over, with this logic you're saying that night gai is more powerful than a juubidama which is preposterous to say the least.
madara has a more complete jubbi, obito just had a tail of the hatchibi and barely any kurama chakra. So madara clearly should be more enchanced than obito in every aspect. It's common sense. How many times do I have to repeat myself???? You can't compare a jubidama and night guy. There both affective in different ways, an example is minato can teleport a jubbidama but he can't teleport night guy because there completely different techniques. Night guy would pierce through obitos heart but jubbidama isn't a attack that pierces through people..... It nukes people, I can actually see this happening if guy hits obito with the night guy
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Except obito would also be half dead laying on the ground.
 

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mindless obito = unpredictable dude.....

Controlled Obito = ends it before it gets serious

So Obito both ways.. As a Jinchuriki Obito can't lose.. Notice that both of the time 8th gate has been used.. its been used to delay for time... Whether it be Dai or Gai..
 

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mindless obito = unpredictable dude.....

Controlled Obito = ends it before it gets serious

So Obito both ways.. As a Jinchuriki Obito can't lose.. Notice that both of the time 8th gate has been used.. its been used to delay for time... Whether it be Dai or Gai..
There is no way mindless obito can defeat eight gate guy... No way
 

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madara has a more complete jubbi, obito just had a tail of the hatchibi and barely any kurama chakra.
So what, only a portion of the juubi's chakra is needed in order to summon the actual juubi. The juubi's durability doesn't change, only the level of it's power does. As I said you are simply speculating that the juubi's durability increases with the addition of more chakra.

So madara clearly should be more enchanced than obito in every aspect. It's common sense. How many times do I have to repeat myself????
How many times do I have to repeat myself, all you have is more chakra. Give me the proof that shows the juubi's durability increasing with the addition of more chakra.

Stop speculating that madara's body is somehow more durable than obito's when the only enhancement he has is more chakra.

Its common sense that madara has tougher skin because he has more chakra? What on earth is common about that? The only thing that's increasing here is his firepower.

You can't compare a jubidama and night guy. There both affective in different ways, an example is minato can teleport a jubbidama but he can't teleport night guy because there completely different techniques.
Completely irrelevant, the damage is what we're comparing, not the method of delivery. One is taijutsu & one is ninjutsu so of course they're different attacks but one clearly caused more damage than the other.

Night guy would pierce through obitos heart but jubbidama isn't a attack that pierces through people..... It nukes people,
There is no difference. Night gai obliterated part of madara's body, the juubidama obliterated half of obito's. So what if night gai is a piercing attack? How does that make it more powerful than a nuke? Logic makes no sense.

I can actually see this happening if guy hits obito with the night guy
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Except obito would also be half dead laying on the ground.
Well what you see & what the facts consist of are two different things then.

Obito tanks it like he tanked a juubidama which obliterated half of his body, nothing is suggesting otherwise.
 

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So what, only a portion of the juubi's chakra is needed in order to summon the actual juubi. The juubi's durability doesn't change, only the level of it's power does. As I said you are simply speculating that the juubi's durability increases with the addition of more chakra.



How many times do I have to repeat myself, all you have is more chakra. Give me the proof that shows the juubi's durability increasing with the addition of more chakra.

Stop speculating that madara's body is somehow more durable than obito's when the only enhancement he has is more chakra.

Its common sense that madara has tougher skin because he has more chakra? What on earth is common about that? The only thing that's increasing here is his firepower.



Completely irrelevant, the damage is what we're comparing, not the method of delivery. One is taijutsu & one is ninjutsu so of course they're different attacks but one clearly caused more damage than the other.



There is no difference. Night gai obliterated part of madara's body, the juubidama obliterated half of obito's. So what if night gai is a piercing attack? How does that make it more powerful than a nuke? Logic makes no sense.



Well what you see & what the facts consist of are two different things then.

Obito tanks it like he tanked a juubidama which obliterated half of his body, nothing is suggesting otherwise.
I don't know if you will ever understand this but a more complete jubbi>>> less complete jubbi in power and chakra!!!!! It's like your saying that the one tail of the Hachibi that obito had has less chakra but the same amount of power as the full hatchibi that madara has. That's not the case it increases in chakra and power. will you please use your common sense, holy shit!

And a good boy just explained this I'm quoting him "That was godou-dama and it was aimed to blow up only half of his body; the half the juubi was taking over." If the Jubbidama was aimed at his full body it would explode on obito and he'd be dead

And btw if naruto and sasuke can pierce through him and do that then so can night guy
 
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That was godou-dama and it was aimed to blow up only half of his body; the half the juubi was taking over.
The point is that it did more damage than night gai.

I don't know if you will ever understand this but a more complete jubbi>>> less complete jubbi in power and chakra!!!!!
& A more complete kurama >>>> a less complete kurama but 100% doesn't have any extra durability. The only difference was the size & firepower, kurama didn't becomes less durable, it's still made up of the same material that 100% is made out of, learn to understand that concept.

Power & chakra =/= durability. They're completely different things, a more complete juubi only increases in firepower & chakra. It's skin doesn't become harder depending on how much chakra it has, which is what you're speculating.

It's like your saying that the one tail of the Hachibi that obito had has less chakra but the same amount of power as the full hatchibi that madara has. That's not the case it increases in chakra and power. will you please use your common sense, holy shit!
Now you're just being a plain idiot, & what the hell are you getting upset about? Lol Me, use common sense? How about I ask the same of you since you're clearly lacking in that category.

Where did I ever say that more chakra doesnt = more power? Please show me. I'm not talking about power I'm talking about DURABILITY, get it through your thick skull.

Is 100% kurama more durable than 50% kurama? NO, it's only smaller & has less firepower. It's still made up of the same material [fur/skin/bones etc.] unless you can somehow prove otherwise. 100% Kurama doesn't have any armored plating that 50% lacks, so it has no extra durability.

And a good boy just explained this I'm quoting him "That was godou-dama and it was aimed to blow up only half of his body; the half the juubi was taking over." If the Jubbidama was aimed at his full body it would explode on obito and he'd be dead
So what? The juubidama still blew up more of obito than night gai did to madara. I have no idea what the relevance in this is, there is none.

And btw if naruto and sasuke can pierce through him and do that then so can night guy
Where did I say that night gai can't pierce obito? I fail to see the relevance in this as well..
 

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Juubito wins if bloodlusted. Truth is, madara wasn't even fully bloodlusted against gai-and yet he still survived gai's onslaught.(he wasn't toying with him, but it's stupid to think he was going all out.)
 

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Juubito wins if bloodlusted. Truth is, madara wasn't even fully bloodlusted against gai-and yet he still survived gai's onslaught.(he wasn't toying with him, but it's stupid to think he was going all out.)
Hurray for speculation

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Obito coughs up blood and gets blown in half, if he's as durable as Madara he should survive and be able to deal with guy while he's a red pulp
 
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