[Tai] EIG with Madara
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z.z ohaidere. First, congratulations on winning the EIG as your prize! Due to winning this, you get to enjoy training with me! Isn't that fun? :3
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Yep....anyway, EIG. Before we start, you must understand that the EIG are a serious and difficult field to learn, even more so to master. That being said, I want you to tell everything you know about the EIG and each gate. 
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First, the Eight Inner Gates resemble the grand circuit in Chinese medicine. The meridians which are the acupuncture points in which Qi (in this case, chakra) flow through naturally. With EIG it's slightly different with the points, however it follows the same pattern just in reverse order going from the crown of the head down the spine, abdomen, to the stomach, and up to the heart.
The first two gates are located in the brain. The first gate unlocks the full potential of what one's body is naturally capable of meaning their potential for speed and strength while the second gate merely pushes that envelope to give more power and more speed through the reserves of chakra that are released as a result. A shinobi can use the Lotus technique after unlocking the first gate, however, there is nothing really special about the other 7 gates aside from the last two.
Gates three and four are located in the spine; their function is more of the same as with the second gate, releasing the reserves of chakra these gates normally hold back to increase the user's speed and power beyond their natural physical limits which is limited only in the first gate. After the third gate is opened the skin turns red, I believe from the blood rush in their body going crazy. It's at this point muscles begin to tear from the unnatural strain on the body.
Gates five is located in the abdomen and six in the stomach. Again, nothing different from gates 2, 3 and 4 in pushing bounderies of strength and speed, only furthering the physical damage one does to their body as it cannot stand the limits of such power.
Gate 7 is located in the stomach as well, this being the last stepping stone to the final gate and causes perhaps the greatest amount of damage bar the gate of death. For...whatever reason that can only be explained by Naruto logic, this gate causes florecent sweat of blue or green or whatever that immediately evaporates into the air from the high amount of energy being generated which causes and aura to appear around the user that looks like chakra when it's only evaporated sweat that looks exactly like chakra (Naruto logic huh...). After this gate is closed off the user is basically screwed. Movement is damn near immpossible from the limits exerted and all the tissue and being torn to ribbons. It causes excruciating pain for the user to move or even be touched
Eight Gate is located in the heart which is the last gate that gives like 100x the strength and speed of the user and inevitably kills them afterward as the body would. I assume the red aura is their blood evaporating which may be one reason they die afterward but I would assume it's because they basicaly destroy all the tissue and muscle in their body, most prominently the heart which is necessary for the basic functions like living....
The more gates you open, the stronger and faster you become and more powerful techniques you can perform at the cost of severely injuring yourself from the over exertion of the limits of your body and eventually killing you if you release the final gate. the names of the gates I don't remember all of them
Opening
Healing
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Closing
Joy
Wonder
Death
don't remember the third and fourht
The first two gates are located in the brain. The first gate unlocks the full potential of what one's body is naturally capable of meaning their potential for speed and strength while the second gate merely pushes that envelope to give more power and more speed through the reserves of chakra that are released as a result. A shinobi can use the Lotus technique after unlocking the first gate, however, there is nothing really special about the other 7 gates aside from the last two.
Gates three and four are located in the spine; their function is more of the same as with the second gate, releasing the reserves of chakra these gates normally hold back to increase the user's speed and power beyond their natural physical limits which is limited only in the first gate. After the third gate is opened the skin turns red, I believe from the blood rush in their body going crazy. It's at this point muscles begin to tear from the unnatural strain on the body.
Gates five is located in the abdomen and six in the stomach. Again, nothing different from gates 2, 3 and 4 in pushing bounderies of strength and speed, only furthering the physical damage one does to their body as it cannot stand the limits of such power.
Gate 7 is located in the stomach as well, this being the last stepping stone to the final gate and causes perhaps the greatest amount of damage bar the gate of death. For...whatever reason that can only be explained by Naruto logic, this gate causes florecent sweat of blue or green or whatever that immediately evaporates into the air from the high amount of energy being generated which causes and aura to appear around the user that looks like chakra when it's only evaporated sweat that looks exactly like chakra (Naruto logic huh...). After this gate is closed off the user is basically screwed. Movement is damn near immpossible from the limits exerted and all the tissue and being torn to ribbons. It causes excruciating pain for the user to move or even be touched
Eight Gate is located in the heart which is the last gate that gives like 100x the strength and speed of the user and inevitably kills them afterward as the body would. I assume the red aura is their blood evaporating which may be one reason they die afterward but I would assume it's because they basicaly destroy all the tissue and muscle in their body, most prominently the heart which is necessary for the basic functions like living....
The more gates you open, the stronger and faster you become and more powerful techniques you can perform at the cost of severely injuring yourself from the over exertion of the limits of your body and eventually killing you if you release the final gate. the names of the gates I don't remember all of them
Opening
Healing
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Closing
Joy
Wonder
Death
don't remember the third and fourht
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Okay, for the most part. A few things were off here and there, but you have the general gist of it correct. The Eight Inner Gates are a series of limiters the body has that naturally prevent one from accessing all of your chakra at once. To prevent too much strain on one individual gate, there are 8 of them throughout the body. These gates are located in various places, each with a different name and location. One may ask about the Gates and wonder what would the purpose of these gates. And the reason of that is simple: without these restraints, the body would consume and utilize too much chakra and life energy, shortening the life span. I associate EIG with Yang as it is a very physical ability, and is closely related to the life of a Shinobi. While not directly stated how, we know that these gates activation is learned through extensive physical training and immense force being channeled to these gates. As you said, essentially utilizing our physical energy into them to do this. But merely channeling the chakra will not be enough. That is the point of the heavy training of course. By undergoing training, you build your physical energy so that you have a high level of energy. As I believe, each gate requires a higher amount of physical energy to be channeled into it. And as such, you must build a higher tolerance to pain and become more accustomed to this training.
As for the individual gates themselves, you have the names off. The first one if the Gate of Opening and the second the Gate of Healing. The third and fourth are the Gates of Life and Pain. The 5th and 6th Inner Gates are named teh Gates of Limit and View (in Viz Manga, they are called Gate of Closing and Gate of Joy. The first 4 or 5 gates bing little change other than, ofc, the massive power and speed boost. The 6th gate, when open, releases such amounts of energy from the user, that it causes nearby water to swirl around the user in a vortex (imo, itwould likely cause wind to form around them in a similar way, but that has never been shown so its more of a theory). The 7th gate is named the Gate of Wonder, or the Gate of Shock as well. As you stated, the sweat that is released from the user is evaporated at such a rate that it causes it to leave behind an aura around the user, much in regards to the Saiyan ki cloaks that Super Saiyans generally show. Last, but most importantly, is the Gate of Death. As it is opened, all restraints on the body are removed and you gain access to all of the power and chakra you have within your body, but in exchange for this power, you subsequently die from this. As your blood literally boils, it seeps though your skin and pores and even hair and gives off the appearance of a flaming red chakra cloak. Now, with each level, you unlock more and more power and chakra which shows little damage to your own body initially but the longer these gates are active, the more damage is done. As a new member learning them, your body has yet to become accustomed to this pain and as such, you arent going to be able to sustain them long or even multiple times.
Also, as you likely know, this training also bestows leg weight training auto so here are your weights and upon completion, you gain an automatic +10 to your taijutsu.
*throws leg weights*
Put them on and run around for a bit and perform some basic tai movements with them. After that, I want you to answer me this question: In what way do you think we access these gates? How do you believe we "open" each gate, or for sake of metaphor, what is the key to each gate?
As for the individual gates themselves, you have the names off. The first one if the Gate of Opening and the second the Gate of Healing. The third and fourth are the Gates of Life and Pain. The 5th and 6th Inner Gates are named teh Gates of Limit and View (in Viz Manga, they are called Gate of Closing and Gate of Joy. The first 4 or 5 gates bing little change other than, ofc, the massive power and speed boost. The 6th gate, when open, releases such amounts of energy from the user, that it causes nearby water to swirl around the user in a vortex (imo, itwould likely cause wind to form around them in a similar way, but that has never been shown so its more of a theory). The 7th gate is named the Gate of Wonder, or the Gate of Shock as well. As you stated, the sweat that is released from the user is evaporated at such a rate that it causes it to leave behind an aura around the user, much in regards to the Saiyan ki cloaks that Super Saiyans generally show. Last, but most importantly, is the Gate of Death. As it is opened, all restraints on the body are removed and you gain access to all of the power and chakra you have within your body, but in exchange for this power, you subsequently die from this. As your blood literally boils, it seeps though your skin and pores and even hair and gives off the appearance of a flaming red chakra cloak. Now, with each level, you unlock more and more power and chakra which shows little damage to your own body initially but the longer these gates are active, the more damage is done. As a new member learning them, your body has yet to become accustomed to this pain and as such, you arent going to be able to sustain them long or even multiple times.
Also, as you likely know, this training also bestows leg weight training auto so here are your weights and upon completion, you gain an automatic +10 to your taijutsu.
*throws leg weights*
Put them on and run around for a bit and perform some basic tai movements with them. After that, I want you to answer me this question: In what way do you think we access these gates? How do you believe we "open" each gate, or for sake of metaphor, what is the key to each gate?
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Meh, I got the names right for the most part, just used some interchanble names from the Viz version...
I assume you won't let me cheat and use the Force to help me get used to these weights >.> *I say as I place the extremely heavy weights on his legs*
*I began to stretch and do some leg extensions first before commiting myself to running, not wishing to pull anything majorly before the training began. I began with some suicides with the weights on, getting used to weight and progressivly getting faster and faster. I then began doing leg exercises with squats and balancing exercises while I contemplated your question.*
If I had to guess I'd say go all balls out and push your body beyond what it can normally take so that you just burst through those SOBs essentially saying to your body "Screw you, I want to do this so I'm going to and you're not going to stop me"
*shrugs*
I assume you won't let me cheat and use the Force to help me get used to these weights >.> *I say as I place the extremely heavy weights on his legs*
*I began to stretch and do some leg extensions first before commiting myself to running, not wishing to pull anything majorly before the training began. I began with some suicides with the weights on, getting used to weight and progressivly getting faster and faster. I then began doing leg exercises with squats and balancing exercises while I contemplated your question.*
If I had to guess I'd say go all balls out and push your body beyond what it can normally take so that you just burst through those SOBs essentially saying to your body "Screw you, I want to do this so I'm going to and you're not going to stop me"
*shrugs*
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Right. The Eight Inner Gates are a series of limiters the body has that naturally prevent one from accessing all of your chakra at once. To prevent too much strain on one individual gate, there are 8 of them throughout the body. These gates are located in various places, each with a different name and location. One may ask about the Gates and wonder what would the purpose of these gates. And the reason of that is simple: without these restraints, the body would consume and utilize too much chakra and life energy, shortening the life span. I associate EIG with Yang as it is a very physical ability, and is closely related to the life of a Shinobi. While not directly stated how, we know that these gates activation is learned through extensive physical training and immense force being channeled to these gates. As you said, essentially utilizing our physical energy into them to do this. But merely channeling the the chakra will not be enough. That is the point of the heavy training of course. By undergoing training, you build your physical energy so that you have a high level of energy. As I believe, each gate requires a higher amount of physical energy to be channeled into it. And as such, you must build a higher tolerance to pain and become more accustomed to this training.
To begin, we start with the first gate. The Kaimon, located in the left side of the brain. This gate removes the limits on the chakra in the brain that naturally prevents us from using all of our strength. By removing this restraint, you start on the path to using your full power. Now, as you are meditating already, your spiritual energy is at a peak, whereas your physical energy is more dormant here. The way I was trained, we forcibly injected chakra into you, centered around that gate to allow you to access that first gate. I will do that now, and then later, have you try to recreate that feeling. Ready?
*thumps Reborn on to the head, directly above the 1st gate, releasing chakra into the gate to force it open*
Now run around and tell me how that feels so far.
To begin, we start with the first gate. The Kaimon, located in the left side of the brain. This gate removes the limits on the chakra in the brain that naturally prevents us from using all of our strength. By removing this restraint, you start on the path to using your full power. Now, as you are meditating already, your spiritual energy is at a peak, whereas your physical energy is more dormant here. The way I was trained, we forcibly injected chakra into you, centered around that gate to allow you to access that first gate. I will do that now, and then later, have you try to recreate that feeling. Ready?
*thumps Reborn on to the head, directly above the 1st gate, releasing chakra into the gate to force it open*
Now run around and tell me how that feels so far.
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After receiving the flick to my head I feel a slight sting with the addition of chakra behind it which causes a mild pain for a moment. However once the gate is opened I suddenly feel a surge of chakra running through my body which makes my body feel lighter as well as physically more stimulated from the body's full access to it's muscles limits.
I begin to run, pushing off with my right leg which has increased considerably in strength. My body moves faster than before. Once I stop I take my right leg and launch a few concentrated kicks out in front of me which snap and strike faster and with more force in the air, having the air move moderately around my leg. I do the same with my other leg and get the same results. I launch a few quick jabs at a faster speed.
"My body feels a combination of lighter and firmer as if I can move like the wind without much restriction while my muscles are tighter just like the feel you get from when you leave the gym"
I begin to run, pushing off with my right leg which has increased considerably in strength. My body moves faster than before. Once I stop I take my right leg and launch a few concentrated kicks out in front of me which snap and strike faster and with more force in the air, having the air move moderately around my leg. I do the same with my other leg and get the same results. I launch a few quick jabs at a faster speed.
"My body feels a combination of lighter and firmer as if I can move like the wind without much restriction while my muscles are tighter just like the feel you get from when you leave the gym"
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Gym? What's that? OH, you mean the place where you get those badges for having pit bull fights with other "pokemon" trainers?
Good, by now the chakra I forcibly injected should be running out and the gate forced open should be closing soon. What I want you to do now is try to recreate that feeling using only chakra and pressure, focusing on that point I released chakra into. It requires tremendous effort. After you force it open, perform a few taijutsu moves on that wooden dummy in the corner.
Good, by now the chakra I forcibly injected should be running out and the gate forced open should be closing soon. What I want you to do now is try to recreate that feeling using only chakra and pressure, focusing on that point I released chakra into. It requires tremendous effort. After you force it open, perform a few taijutsu moves on that wooden dummy in the corner.
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No that's stupid, I don't promote animal violence that rewards you in badges instead of money. That's just stupid
So what exactly do I do again? Stand in one place and start shouting in anger thinking of a friend who's been killed for the umtheenth time until my hair and aura goes blond? Or what
So what exactly do I do again? Stand in one place and start shouting in anger thinking of a friend who's been killed for the umtheenth time until my hair and aura goes blond? Or what
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Focus chakra on that point where I forcibly entered chakra, the location of your first gate. By flooding it with chakra, you force it open and are able to use the first gate's benefits.
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I get extra credit if I turn my hair blond tho right? Wait no, Gai went red after 8 Gates which means highest we can go is Kaio-ken
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Remembering where the location from where the sudden surge occured I began to focus souly on that chakra point in the left side of my brain. I channel my chakra and energy to that point until it finally bursts through, releasing a sudden surge of energy through my body just like before, maximizing the limitations of my muscles, increasing my power and speed.
Assuming the wooden dummy is like the one used in Wing Chun I begin slow letting out simultaneous low kicks and strikes, low and high strikes, blocks, forward punches. I pick up the pace increasing my speed and power while still maintaining the precision of my attacks. My strikes and kicks become blurs as they increase and the power begins to wear on the dummy until it eentually breaks into several pieces my energy becomes too much for it to withstand.
Ref to the types of techniques and pacing and because Jacki Chan is the shit
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Remembering where the location from where the sudden surge occured I began to focus souly on that chakra point in the left side of my brain. I channel my chakra and energy to that point until it finally bursts through, releasing a sudden surge of energy through my body just like before, maximizing the limitations of my muscles, increasing my power and speed.
Assuming the wooden dummy is like the one used in Wing Chun I begin slow letting out simultaneous low kicks and strikes, low and high strikes, blocks, forward punches. I pick up the pace increasing my speed and power while still maintaining the precision of my attacks. My strikes and kicks become blurs as they increase and the power begins to wear on the dummy until it eentually breaks into several pieces my energy becomes too much for it to withstand.
Ref to the types of techniques and pacing and because Jacki Chan is the shit
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I've seen better. But good work.
Now that you have opened the first gate on your own, we are able to start training! The first thing you learn is relatively easy to do, learning to use your newfound speed. As you will notice, you are now faster than before. This will allow you to outrun certain attacks using sheer speed. I'm going to release several small bursts of fire, I want you to use your new speed to outrun the fireballs as they approach you. It will give you the chance to become accustomed to the new speed as well.
*releases multiple fireballs towards you*
o-o
I've seen better. But good work.
Now that you have opened the first gate on your own, we are able to start training! The first thing you learn is relatively easy to do, learning to use your newfound speed. As you will notice, you are now faster than before. This will allow you to outrun certain attacks using sheer speed. I'm going to release several small bursts of fire, I want you to use your new speed to outrun the fireballs as they approach you. It will give you the chance to become accustomed to the new speed as well.
*releases multiple fireballs towards you*
o-o
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I'll let you know when I'm here to impress you
After you speak I begin to stretch my legs in preparation for your generic fireball attacks. Once they're released, I take my sprinter's stance and I jet away from the fireballs closing in on me. I make use of my speed running like Kunta Kinte did before he got caught, like Usain Bolt, like any average <insert stereotyped demographic here> runs from the police on instinct. Effectively I "outrun" your fireballs with my enhanced speed.
After you speak I begin to stretch my legs in preparation for your generic fireball attacks. Once they're released, I take my sprinter's stance and I jet away from the fireballs closing in on me. I make use of my speed running like Kunta Kinte did before he got caught, like Usain Bolt, like any average <insert stereotyped demographic here> runs from the police on instinct. Effectively I "outrun" your fireballs with my enhanced speed.
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Why are you running like an Irishman? O_O
With this new tool, you can use it to effective move at high speeds, speeds equal to whichever gate you opened while using this. An ideal jutsu for quick escapes or for supplementing taijutsu attacks. Now, before we continue further, I should detail the key traits of the first gate for you.
Requiring a chained weapon, you attack them and deal a barrage of strikes with the weapon and then use said chain to bind and launch them into the air where you then attack them once more and knock them back to the earth. I'd suggest a kusarigama for this jutsu.
(Hachimon: Gourai Rensa) - Eight Gates: Strong Thunder Lotus Chain
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: N/A
Damage Points: 40
Description: A taijutsu attack were the user opens the first gate and does a combo with a chained weapon to wrap up his opponent and launch them into the air.After that the user will launch himself in the air and begin a barrage of strikes,
knocking his opponent back towards the ground. He will then finish them off with a strong strike right into the ground itself.
Note: Requires 1st gate opening
(Chiratsuki Kaihi) Flicker Evasion
Type: Defensive
Rank: B-Rank
Range: Short-Long
Chakra: N/A
Damage: N/A
Description:
A skill usable by all EIG users and masters, once one has opened at least one of the EIG, he will move at high speeds to dodge, attack or defend from techniques. The ability pertains to movement in the battle field, meaning running, walking, jumping, dashing, etc and its speed depends on the Gate currently opened.
Note: This version can only be used by EIG masters with at least one gate opened
Type: Defensive
Rank: B-Rank
Range: Short-Long
Chakra: N/A
Damage: N/A
Description:
A skill usable by all EIG users and masters, once one has opened at least one of the EIG, he will move at high speeds to dodge, attack or defend from techniques. The ability pertains to movement in the battle field, meaning running, walking, jumping, dashing, etc and its speed depends on the Gate currently opened.
Note: This version can only be used by EIG masters with at least one gate opened
With this new tool, you can use it to effective move at high speeds, speeds equal to whichever gate you opened while using this. An ideal jutsu for quick escapes or for supplementing taijutsu attacks. Now, before we continue further, I should detail the key traits of the first gate for you.
The Kaimon, or the Gate of Opening, is the first inner gate, which you just opened, and upon opening it, you gain an increase in strength and and a slight increase in speed. Now, a note that I should add, EIG users have a passive increase in taijutsu damage, +10 if Im correct. This, plus the +15 damage boost for the first gate being opened, gives one a +25 taijutsu damage after the first gate is open, but the +10 is only valid after training is done. With this increase in damage, the subsequent attacks one can perform are enhanced and more deadly. Even basic taijutsu such as D or C ranked taijutsu becomes more dangerous with this boost. One of these jutsus, is named Primary Lotus but before we reach that one, there is a lesser Lotus related jutsu.
Requiring a chained weapon, you attack them and deal a barrage of strikes with the weapon and then use said chain to bind and launch them into the air where you then attack them once more and knock them back to the earth. I'd suggest a kusarigama for this jutsu.
(Hachimon: Gourai Rensa) - Eight Gates: Strong Thunder Lotus Chain
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: N/A
Damage Points: 40
Description: A taijutsu attack were the user opens the first gate and does a combo with a chained weapon to wrap up his opponent and launch them into the air.After that the user will launch himself in the air and begin a barrage of strikes,
knocking his opponent back towards the ground. He will then finish them off with a strong strike right into the ground itself.
Note: Requires 1st gate opening
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This was the technique used in the third Naruto Movie by Lee. The Crescent Moon Kingdom I believe.
Now three questions; the +10 is a a passive addition I gain at the end of the training for all taijutsu techniques? Like freeform, canon tai, NB tai, Tai related CFS etc? Also is this only when I have the gates opened or is it even without the gates active.
Do you want me to demonstrate the jutsu you gave me above or just let you know if I understand it or not like with our Sound Training?
Now three questions; the +10 is a a passive addition I gain at the end of the training for all taijutsu techniques? Like freeform, canon tai, NB tai, Tai related CFS etc? Also is this only when I have the gates opened or is it even without the gates active.
Do you want me to demonstrate the jutsu you gave me above or just let you know if I understand it or not like with our Sound Training?
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1&2. All taijutsu, yes. Including freeform, NB Tai, CFS, etc. Any taijutsu is granted a passive +10.
3. Well, both will suffice here.
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*Sees no Shadow clone around to demonstrate jutsu one...* Okay then sensei, whatever you say
*I take out a kusari-gama and toss it around you suddenly and use it to launch you into the air. With the enhanced speed granted from the gate I follow in pursuit and get above you rather quickly and before releasing my barrage I say the words of the Great Kamina, leader of team Daiguren!* Let's see you grit those teeth Ojii-sama!! *I then release a barrage of punches and kicks as we head down to the ground though I'd hardly believe you'd just let me do any of this...* :/
*I take out a kusari-gama and toss it around you suddenly and use it to launch you into the air. With the enhanced speed granted from the gate I follow in pursuit and get above you rather quickly and before releasing my barrage I say the words of the Great Kamina, leader of team Daiguren!* Let's see you grit those teeth Ojii-sama!! *I then release a barrage of punches and kicks as we head down to the ground though I'd hardly believe you'd just let me do any of this...* :/
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