[VS] Edo Tobirama, Kisame and Mei vs. EMS Madara

[Unorthodox]

Well, no. Tobirama's FTG is extremely useful for evading attacks and quick offense. Edo Tensei may be useful also. Kisame's chakra absorption capabilities can come in handy. Mei is just...useless.

ftg isnt avoiding anything that makes new land mases with its blades absorbtion is useless to kisame is bisected

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

idk who wins but this is to KG who thinks PS solos everything

not that those 2 (kisame and mei sand a chance) cant kisame absorb some of the susanno (not saying all) also if madara tries to seal tobirama (assuming he has sealing method) how will he catch him..? tobirama>>madara in terms of speed not saying hes slow but with ftg tobirama should be able to effectively avoid madara. also he woiuld have to leave his susanno to try which is stupid with kisame and tobirama on field even if kisame was not here fail to c how tobirama gets caught in sealing method

even with sealing method madara is no gaara or nagato when it comes to sealing people ...

 

[RicardoA]

Well, no. Tobirama's FTG is extremely useful for evading attacks and quick offense. Edo Tensei may be useful also. Kisame's chakra absorption capabilities can come in handy. Mei is just...useless.

I thought like that too before the Gokage got whooped :|
Whether its Tobirama or Mei all their efforts are fruitless before the power of the strongest Uchiha U_U

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Kisame uses subterranean voyage and swims under Susano'o, then uses Daikodan. GG.

 

[KidGamer65]

idk who wins but this is to KG who thinks PS solos everything

lol, here we go again. People complaining and shit.....at least bring a good argument if you are going to complain.

not that those 2 (kisame and mei sand a chance) cant kisame absorb some of the susanno (not saying all) also if madara tries to seal tobirama (assuming he has sealing method) how will he catch him..? tobirama>>madara in terms of speed not saying hes slow but with ftg tobirama should be able to effectively avoid madara. also he woiuld have to leave his susanno to try which is stupid with kisame and tobirama on field even if kisame was not here fail to c how tobirama gets caught in sealing method

No, he can't. PS is

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than Kisame that is it ridiculous, if he gets close to try and absorb it, it either punts him away, stabs him, or swings its sword and chops him in half, with low difficulty.

PS has enough AoE to tear apart

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. Tobirama isn't dodging PS's slash, so he gets obliterated, then while he's regenerating, Madara heals him.

1. Why would he seal Tobirama before killing the ones he can kill with a flick of Susanoo's wrist?

2. Why would he go after Tobirama while he's still able to move?

Did you think before replying? Like I said, don't complain about how I allegedly (Lol) think PS solos everything when you have no valid argument.

even with sealing method madara is no gaara or nagato when it comes to sealing people ...

Put in a dead state and then seal away. Its not that hard. Madara shits on this crew.

 

[Inert Brian]

Theoretically GSB should be able to absorb Susano'o.

Kisame is the ultimate counter to Kurama. Tobirama can potentially kill EMS Madara before he resorts to PS.

If Kisame can absorb with GSB i'm going with team 1, otherwise PS takes this.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Madara stomps both scene's. Ps is all that's needed.

 

[Unorthodox]

Theoretically GSB should be able to absorb Susano'o.

Kisame is the ultimate counter to Kurama. Tobirama can potentially kill EMS Madara before he resorts to PS.

If Kisame can absorb with GSB i'm going with team 1, otherwise PS takes this.

madara with a little sensory abilities completely counterd tobirama he isnt blitzing a thang

WSB isnt absorbing ps the shockwaves ripples through it

 

[genii96]

lol, here we go again. People complaining and shit.....at least bring a good argument if you are going to complain.



No, he can't. PS is

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than Kisame that is it ridiculous, if he gets close to try and absorb it, it either punts him away, stabs him, or swings its sword and chops him in half, with low difficulty.

PS has enough AoE to tear apart

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. Tobirama isn't dodging PS's slash, so he gets obliterated, then while he's regenerating, Madara heals him.

1. Why would he seal Tobirama before killing the ones he can kill with a flick of Susanoo's wrist?

2. Why would he go after Tobirama while he's still able to move?

Did you think before replying? Like I said, don't complain about how I allegedly (Lol) think PS solos everything when you have no valid argument.



Put in a dead state and then seal away. Its not that hard. Madara shits on this crew.

if kisame makes the whole area a lake,then that makes the shockwave attacks much weaker.

Size dosent equate chakra volume. Kisame can absorb 6 tails at a time,ps is the manifestatuin of madara's chakra,so unless madara has more chakra than 6 tails hachibi,ps is getting absorbed,ofcourse kisame cant get close enough,unless he sneakes up somehow.

Hashirama evaded the waves by jumping,the waves travel through a medium,. Judging by the feats of ps,the waves are made only when the sword is swung at close proximity to the ground. An overhead sword swing didnt make a wave against madara.

A lake made by kisame would really reduce the blast.

Oh,and those shockwaves arent even that lethal,the gokage were just blown back back,hashirama wasnt killed either.

 

[lelerskates]

Without the lack of a sealing method for Madara, there is zero point in discussing this as he can't kill Tobirama.

So then why are you being ignorant in saying that Madara still wins? The irony.

 

[KidGamer65]

So then why are you being ignorant in saying that Madara still wins? The irony.

I assumed OP would give him one after my first post, even though the smart thing to do would to have given him one when he made the thread. But he didn't, so oh well.

if kisame makes the whole area a lake,then that makes the shockwave attacks much weaker.

No, it doesn't.

Size dosent equate chakra volume. Kisame can absorb 6 tails at a time,ps is the manifestatuin of madara's chakra,so unless madara has more chakra than 6 tails hachibi,ps is getting absorbed,ofcourse kisame cant get close enough,unless he sneakes up somehow.

Except 6 Tails of V2 B's chakra isn't equal to 6 Tails of Hachibi's chakra, or he wouldn't be able to enter V2 mode again in that same fight.

Hashirama evaded the waves by jumping,the waves travel through a medium,. Judging by the feats of ps,the waves are made only when the sword is swung at close proximity to the ground. An overhead sword swing didnt make a wave against madara.

He evaded one. Its clear he would have died had he not done something to sotp them.

Oh,and those shockwaves arent even that lethal,the gokage were just blown back back,hashirama wasnt killed either.

Except it didn't hit either of them. If you are going to tell me that a shockwave that cut a Mountain top and ravaged the landscape isn't lethal, then I'm not going to take you seriously.

 

[Oblivionx]

team 1 takes scenario 1... in scenario 2 it's 50/50 but madara will take it i think...
hashirama was able to run away from kyubi susano madara, tobirama has no problem dodging susano or shockwave... and ftg enables others to dodge it as well... combos from mei, kisame and tobirama might deal some damage to susano and even if they can't take it down.. tobirama being an edo outlast madara....

 

[genii96]

I assumed OP would give him one after my first post, even though the smart thing to do would to have given him one when he made the thread. But he didn't, so oh well.



No, it doesn't.


Except 6 Tails of V2 B's chakra isn't equal to 6 Tails of Hachibi's chakra, or he wouldn't be able to enter V2 mode again in that same fight.


He evaded one. Its clear he would have died had he not done something to sotp them.



Except it didn't hit either of them. If you are going to tell me that a shockwave that cut a Mountain top and ravaged the landscape isn't lethal, then I'm not going to take you seriously.

1) yes it does,example,sakura hits the ground,shockwave happens,sakura hits a lake,little happens. The shockwaves would be quite weaker on a lake than on the ground

2)dosent matter,the point is simple,if madara dosent have more chakra than 6 tails hachibi,ps gets absorbed quickly. I was talking about ps,not kurama,that sword is a non factor to a full bijuu,only gsb is

3) except hashi never stopped it,he just evadd until he went sm. He was surviving those waves until that time.

4) you dont understand,the waved travel through the ground,it is not like daytime trigger. If someine is hiding inside the ground,he gets cleaved,if he isnt,he gets blown way. Mountains are just elevated ground,they are connected to it,hence the shockwaves damaged them. the kages were not hit because they were above the ground,they were clearly in its path,as their back,sides and front were cut through.

Tobirama is a sensor,and an ftg user,he can easily notice when a shockwave making attack is coming,and evade. Madara's susanoo is slow,unlike sasuke's,so any argument about quick strike attacks wont help.

 

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[UchihaNagashi]

Restrict PS swing, Madara still wins. Restrict PS, he still wins. Restrict Susano'O, he still wins. Restrict Kurama, he still wins.

 

[GodKage]

team 1 high

 

[KidGamer65]

1) yes it does,example,sakura hits the ground,shockwave happens,sakura hits a lake,little happens. The shockwaves would be quite weaker on a lake than on the ground

This isn't a punch. If you punch the water nothing is going to happen, so that's a bad example.

2)dosent matter,the point is simple,if madara dosent have more chakra than 6 tails hachibi,ps gets absorbed quickly. I was talking about ps,not kurama,that sword is a non factor to a full bijuu,only gsb is

That isn't 6 Tails of Hachibi's chakra, so once again, your point is completely invalid. Don't know

3) except hashi never stopped it,he just evadd until he went sm. He was surviving those waves until that time.

Yeah, he evaded it once then stopped it by defeating Perfect Susanoo. There was only one attack from Madara's sword.

4) you dont understand,the waved travel through the ground,it is not like daytime trigger. If someine is hiding inside the ground,he gets cleaved,if he isnt,he gets blown way. Mountains are just elevated ground,they are connected to it,hence the shockwaves damaged them. the kages were not hit because they were above the ground,they were clearly in its path,as their back,sides and front were cut through.

That doesn't mean it won't work on water. The bold is obviously wrong as the two Mountain tops that were cut disagree. If they really did travel through the ground and the ground alone, then it'd have to travel up the Mountains, and it would have hit the Mountains lower to the ground than the ones that were cut, but those ones were untouched, and only the Mountain tops were cut.

Your logic is terrible. The Kages were on the ground when Madara attacked, but you are claiming that is the reason why they didn't get hit even though the ground itself was being carved up? They weren't the target of his attack, he had no intention of finishing them with that strike, that strike was to show his power. This "The Shockwaves that cut Mountain tops aren't lethal" argument is nonsense.

Tobirama is a sensor,and an ftg user,he can easily notice when a shockwave making attack is coming,and evade. Madara's susanoo is slow,unlike sasuke's,so any argument about quick strike attacks wont help.

Then Madara swings again and he dies. Madara's Susanoo's strikes being slow is already debunked by manga panels. [

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] The last panel indicates speed. Not to mention the attack itself traveled all that distance and cut those Mountains in a split second.

You telling me Tobirama will evade with Hiraishin doesn't mean anything, not when he has no tags out of Susanoo's assault range.

 

[ARGUS]

Madara wins this mid diff

-The team has no way to bypass susanoo after V3,,,,,,
-PS is on a whole other level as it not only overcomes the limit for FTG thorugh its enormous AOE,,but its lack of chakra oriented shockwaves are something that kisame cannot absorb,,,,,as the team is bisected by madara,,,,,