Edo Tensai CANT be used 1V1 (100% Proof)

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Every pain has been prepared beforehand with chakra rods. Every major summoning scroll has been prepared beforehand with a blood contract. I can't see how you are not getting this?

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT

regular summoning like the toads and snakes DOES NOT REQUIRE SACRIFICES

i never said kabuto couldnt use summoning tech but he can summon EDO's without a sacrifice for each one
 

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You're not getting his point, Saku. Ninja prep up in many ways. Minato is not nearly as useful without his prepped kunais. Forming contracts with your summons requires preparation and training which is no different than Kabuto's training and contracts with Impure World Resurrection. It's just a more complex process. Naruto, Sasuke, Nagato, Madara, Obito...They've all used prep time for some of their skills.
 

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You're not getting his point, Saku. Ninja prep up in many ways. Minato is not nearly as useful without his prepped kunais. Forming contracts with your summons requires preparation and training which is no different than Kabuto's training and contracts with Impure World Resurrection. It's just a more complex process. Naruto, Sasuke, Nagato, Madara, Obito...They've all used prep time for some of their skills.

no you're going TOO far into it....if iwanted to go that deep into it, ill say dragon sage mode couldnt be used because it needs prep time,BUT I DIDNT BECAUSE THATS NOT THE PREP TIME IM TALKING ABOUT

im talking about kabuto not have prep time to CAPTURE SACRIFICES

if kabuto can start the fight with 30 sacrifices THEN that is the same has having a 31 vs 1 thread

kabuto need an entire ritual before edo tensai can be used

kabuto NEEDS to have LIVING HUMAN sacrifices
 

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no you're going TOO far into it....if iwanted to go that deep into it, ill say dragon sage mode couldnt be used because it needs prep time,BUT I DIDNT BECAUSE THATS NOT THE PREP TIME IM TALKING ABOUT

im talking about kabuto not have prep time to CAPTURE SACRIFICES

if kabuto can start the fight with 30 sacrifices THEN that is the same has having a 31 vs 1 thread

kabuto need an entire ritual before edo tensai can be used

kabuto NEEDS to have LIVING HUMAN sacrifices

I could prove you wrong ... but:

SakuXSasu
NaruXHina

/thread
 

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Who's kabuto? That fodder everyone puts their hand on to either say better luck next time or take back their chakra?
 

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Its called preparation......and when most people make top lists or even vs threads they normally put both characters at there full strength or prime meaning kabuto gets edo's.

If this were true then Konan would be #3.
 

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all the people that put kabuto #1 on the top 10 ninja list because "all kabuto has to do is clap his hands and 30+ EDOs appear"are wrong

edo tensai CANT the used 1v1 because edo tensai REQUIRES SACRIFICES

if kabuto get into a fight, who is he gonna sacrifice when no one is around?????? only him and his opponent are there

KABUTO IS #6 ON THE TOP 10 NINJA

_O-epic fail dude edo is a prep jutsu meaning it is already set and ready to go. kabuto #1
 

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I could prove you wrong ... but:

SakuXSasu
NaruXHina

/thread

..................FAIL

naruto will be with sakura btw JUST WATCH

_O-epic fail dude edo is a prep jutsu meaning it is already set and ready to go. kabuto #1

:eek: if edo tensai is a prep required jutsu, how the hell will kabuto use it without having prep time in a 1v1????

FAIL
 

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minato doesnt NEED his kunai....HE MAKES FTG MARKING WITH HIS OWN HAND


the kunai's are just better

and you both missed the point

KABUTO NEEDS A SACRIFICE, danzo and minato doesnt

so you are saying minato would have won the fight against tobi without that ftg kunai ?

:sy:
 

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@ SakuXNaru


I know what angle you're trying to paint for this "no edo in 1v1". However your assumption, Kabuto is so stupid he wouldn't realize he needs prep time, is the reason it is flawed. Of course he would already come prepped and ready to SUMMON. Just like many before me have pointed out.

Orochimaru vs hiruzen (this is 1v1)


Kabuto's ultimatum to, know known to be Obito, Madara. (again 1v1)

/thread
 

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Alright, I guess I'll give my position on this. To say Kabuto isn't allowed to use his edo tensai in a "1v1" match is like saying a shinobi must come to the battle field without their weapons or tools already prepared at their hip. A shinobi's jutsu and techniques are their tools. Minato's FTG tags are allready prepared in every vs fight we see with him. Obviously he has all his kunai pre set with the seals on there. By the logic of the OP Kabuto doesnt get prep time because it's not manga. In that case, Minato doesn't get his ftg tags on his kunai before a battle and he must put the sealing formula on each of the tags, or Kabuto cannot have all the abilities of the sound four because those are variables that have been pre-set before the start of the battle that we automatically assume those people have. with Edo Tensai we automatically assume he has those sacrifices and Summons pre set because they're tools he's brought to the battle prepared, just like any other shinobi would.

It makes absolutly no sense to say he cannot have the summons already prepared because every shinobi has weapons prepared from basic, rudamentary explosives, knives, kunai, etc, etc to high class ranking jutsu Everybody has a certian level of preparations with them.

Long story short, this is hardly proof that edo tensai cannot be used in a 1v1 fight for the simple theory of every ninja having prepared tools, edo tensai happening to be a prepared tool for Kabuto therefore to restrict him would be to restrict everybody unless hypocritical. This is not fanboism, this is rather common sense.
 
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:eek: if edo tensai is a prep required jutsu, how the hell will kabuto use it without having prep time in a 1v1????

FAIL

smart one when we say 1 on 1 what we is mean that person against the other using all of the abilities we seen up till now. I dont know what u talking about when u say kabuto cant use edo because that is the same as saying naruto cant use the 9tail when it is a part of him as much as edo is a tool/jutsu that kabuto uses.if u say no interference then kabuto barly make the top 10.
 

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this isnt the manga

this is a simple 1v1 kabuto doesnt get prep time

So does this mean 1v2 or 1v3 Kabuto can use Edo Tensei? That makes no sense. I doubt two ninja would stand-by as Kabuto nonchalantly sacrifices their ally and resurrects a shinobi. This is more of a scenario case instead of a fact.
 

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@ SakuXNaru


I know what angle you're trying to paint for this "no edo in 1v1". However your assumption, Kabuto is so stupid he wouldn't realize he needs prep time, is the reason it is flawed. Of course he would already come prepped and ready to SUMMON. Just like many before me have pointed out.

Orochimaru vs hiruzen (this is 1v1)


Kabuto's ultimatum to, know known to be Obito, Madara. (again 1v1)

/thread

wtf are you talking about? this isnt a scheduled fight...its simply a 1v1..there is no time for prep time...it dont matter if kabuto has the DNA, he cant summon the edos without any sacrifices

ORO HAS PREP TIME...the manga give/allows prep time

You haven't "prooved" anything fool

well explain to where kabuto will get his sacrifices from

so you are saying minato would have won the fight against tobi without that ftg kunai ?

:sy:

LMFAO

so since you cant prove me wrong, you start putting words in my mouth??????????????

WHEN DID I SAY MINATO>ANYONE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i PROVED (AGAIN) minato can use flying thunder god WITHOUT prep time...like you wanted me to answer

YOUR A JOKE

smart one when we say 1 on 1 what we is mean that person against the other using all of the abilities we seen up till now. I dont know what u talking about when u say kabuto cant use edo because that is the same as saying naruto cant use the 9tail when it is a part of him as much as edo is a tool/jutsu that kabuto uses.if u say no interference then kabuto barly make the top 10.

you making up rules LMAO...a fight is when two or more ninja clash and battle with what they are capable of using, in order to winning

are you stupid? naruto doesnt need a sacrifice to use kyuubi

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Alright, I guess I'll give my position on this. To say Kabuto isn't allowed to use his edo tensai in a "1v1" match is like saying a shinobi must come to the battle field without their weapons or tools already prepared at their hip. A shinobi's jutsu and techniques are their tools. Minato's FTG tags are allready prepared in every vs fight we see with him. Obviously he has all his kunai pre set with the seals on there. By the logic of the OP Kabuto doesnt get prep time because it's not manga. In that case, Minato doesn't get his ftg tags on his kunai before a battle and he must put the sealing formula on each of the tags, or Kabuto cannot have all the abilities of the sound four because those are variables that have been pre-set before the start of the battle that we automatically assume those people have. with Edo Tensai we automatically assume he has those sacrifices and Summons pre set because they're tools he's brought to the battle prepared, just like any other shinobi would.

It makes absolutly no sense to say he cannot have the summons already prepared because every shinobi has weapons prepared from basic, rudamentary explosives, knives, kunai, etc, etc to high class ranking jutsu Everybody has a certian level of preparations with them.

Long story short, this is hardly proof that edo tensai cannot be used in a 1v1 fight for the simple theory of every ninja having prepared tools, edo tensai happening to be a prepared tool for Kabuto therefore to restrict him would be to restrict everybody unless hypocritical. This is not fanboism, this is rather common sense.

"hardly".....it is enough proof

edo tensai requires a sacrifice

all these other tools/weapons doesnt need a sacrifice
 

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So does this mean 1v2 or 1v3 Kabuto can use Edo Tensei? That makes no sense. I doubt two ninja would stand-by as Kabuto nonchalantly sacrifices their ally and resurrects a shinobi. This is more of a scenario case instead of a fact.

no your trying to change the battle standards and call this senseless.....if kabuto fight 1v1 (like the title says) he CANT sacrifice anyone because there is no one to sacrifice

kabuto used edo tensai in the manga because he had prep time and plenty fodder people to sacrifice

if kabuto fights with a partner THEN he can sacrifice his partner and use edo tensai
 

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This thread is fundamentally flawed.
People keep arguing that Kabuto will come prepared, and the basis of the thread is if Kabuto ISN'T prepared. So it's a stupid back and forth argument.

By his very nature, kabuto is ALWAYS prepared. He will run away if he isn't prepared and fight when he is.
 

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This thread is fundamentally flawed.
People keep arguing that Kabuto will come prepared, and the basis of the thread is if Kabuto ISN'T prepared. So it's a stupid back and forth argument.

By his very nature, kabuto is ALWAYS prepared. He will run away if he isn't prepared and fight when he is.

what???

kabuto is either prepared or he isnt...in a 1v1 there is no prep time, you just fight..this isnt a scheduled fight

how can kabuto come prepared?? a fight doesnt have prep time

people are taking my SIMPLE statement and put it into their head has something else or something
 

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wtf are you talking about? this isnt a scheduled fight...its simply a 1v1..there is no time for prep time...it dont matter if kabuto has the DNA, he cant summon the edos without any sacrifices

ORO HAS PREP TIME...the manga give/allows prep time



well explain to where kabuto will get his sacrifices from



LMFAO

so since you cant prove me wrong, you start putting words in my mouth??????????????

WHEN DID I SAY MINATO>ANYONE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i PROVED (AGAIN) minato can use flying thunder god WITHOUT prep time...like you wanted me to answer

YOUR A JOKE



you making up rules LMAO...a fight is when two or more ninja clash and battle with what they are capable of using, in order to winning

are you stupid? naruto doesnt need a sacrifice to use kyuubi



"hardly".....it is enough proof

edo tensai requires a sacrifice

all these other tools/weapons doesnt need a sacrifice

I guess my point completely went over your head, either that or you ignored it. Either or I expected as much.

My point still stands as is. No matter what the preparations may be for the tool to be used in a fight, it's still a preparation nonetheless meaning restricting Kabuto without doing the same for others is hypocritical. Since you don't take those other accounts into consideration into your argument, it's exactly that.

Night people.
 
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