[VS] Edo Madara > Hashirama

[Auju]

Edo madara has the rinnegan which he did not have during the fight with hashi.
So i think he can now defeat hashi with the power of the six paths

 

[KidGamer65]

Hashirama>Edo Madara. Stated by the latter himself.

 

[blazekev90]

Logically, yes Edo Madara is by far greater than the 1st Hokage.

 

[silmarill]

I think they are more about equal, anyone thinks Madara would one shot Hashi when Kishi' lets them fight clearly dont have a grasp on Kishi's character portrayel.

 

[Waltz]

Hashirama>Edo Madara. Stated by the latter himself.

Your joking right? thats hyperbole which would be proven false if anyone else defeats him. His statement was Hashirama is the onle one capable of stopping ...doesn't necessarily mean he's going to/will do so single handedly. If hashirama is alive and not an edo, Madara takes this quite comfortably,

 

[Courtship dating]

Hashirama>Edo Madara. Stated by the latter himself.

No it wasn't.

He stated that Hahsirama "could defeat him" which means he still views Hashirama as a threat in battle he never said that he was superior to his Edo form.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

lolno.

Hashi owns Madara.

 

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we dont know if madara has mastered all the seven paths ........ all he has done is summon a meteorite ............
if yes he surely fodderizes hashirama ..............

 

[pateuvasiliu]

With what?

What can Rinnegan do to fight this?

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[- Їиfєяио -]

With what?

What can Rinnegan do to fight this?

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im not sure if madara has mastered all the paths .............
if he has then ......... almighty push and almighty pull applied in opp ends will just break it into two .........

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Are you fuc king serious? No Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei can pull that thing off the ground. It dwarfs mountains.

Hell, it's 100 times larger than the Kyuubi and the 50% Kyuubi broke out of Chibaku Tensei.

Don't go there, man. Nothing the manga has shown can stop that thing. Even the Juubi is smaller than that, and the Sage needed to trap it inside the moon to imprison it.

 

[KidGamer65]

No it wasn't.

He stated that Hahsirama "could defeat him" which means he still views Hashirama as a threat in battle he never said that he was superior to his Edo form.

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No. Madara states that only Hashirama could ever stop him. Inb4 you say he was referring to the old days where they used to clash constantly, he then proceeded to say "and he is no longer here with us" Obviously implying that if Hashirama were here he could stop Madara.

Your joking right? thats hyperbole which would be proven false if anyone else defeats him. His statement was Hashirama is the onle one capable of stopping ...doesn't necessarily mean he's going to/will do so single handedly. If hashirama is alive and not an edo, Madara takes this quite comfortably,

Hyperbole is an exaggeration of something, Madara saying Hashirama can stop him is not an exaggeration nor is there any reason to believe its a hyperbole.


If he said Hashirama can stop him it obviously doesn't mean Hashirama, with help can stop him otherwise he never would have said Hashirama can stop him without mentioning others.

 

[Champ]

Already know this he is a fusion between the two, it's like Goku beating Vegito

 

[Naruto9001]

What people need to understand is Edo Madara's statement is true since he cant summon the Kyuubi anymore which nerfs his power sure he has Preta Path, Mokuton and Meteors now but none of that compares to the destructive power the Kyuubi has so I would actually put Prime Madara stronger than Edo Madara or at the least equal to since he has unlimited chakra and an undying body.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Madara said that hashi can stop him. so unless you can prove that he was drunk when he said that .... hashi is still better than edo madara. you must have a valid reason to dismiss this statement.

 

[Waltz]

Hyperbole is an exaggeration of something, Madara saying Hashirama can stop him is not an exaggeration nor is there any reason to believe its a hyperbole. If he said Hashirama can stop him it obviously doesn't mean Hashirama, with help can stop him otherwise he never would have said Hashirama can stop him without mentioning others.

"Only hashirama is capable of stopping me" [

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] is an exaggerated claim that hasirama is the only individual capable of stopping him in his tracks so to speak. It has already been discredited by

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. Obito has stopped madara from doing as he pleases for the time being so in a sense it nullifies that statement and is no different from Nagato claiming through Deva path that he is God, Jiraiya

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that he would kill itachi and Kisame on the spot, ect.

 

[KidGamer65]

"Only hashirama is capable of stopping me" [

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] is an exaggerated claim that hasirama is the only individual capable of stopping him in his tracks so to speak. It has already been discredited by

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. Obito has stopped madara from doing as he pleases for the time being so in a sense it nullifies that statement and is no different from Nagato claiming through Deva path that he is God, Jiraiya

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that he would kill itachi and Kisame on the spot, ect.

The part about only Hashirama being able to stop him may have been a hyperbole but the overall idea of Hashirama being able to beat Madara can't be deemed hyperbole just because of that. Why bring Obito into this? He has no relevance to this discussion as Madara was clearly talking about Hashirama is the only one who can beat him in a fight, as he was comparing how the Gokage can't beat him to how Hashirama can beat him. The Obito and Madara situation is not related to a battle so no, that statement is not invalid.

Nagato claiming he is God is very very different from Madara saying Hashirama can beat him. Nagato claiming he is God is an obvious unsupported hyperbole. Madara saying Hashirama can beat him is fact because Madara who knows his own limits and Hashirama's limits stated that Hashirama can beat him. Same thing with Jiraiya saying he will kill Kisame and Itachi. Completely unsupported.

When two people are rivals, fight frequently and know each other's limits. When one says the other can beat him, then its true.

Already know this he is a fusion between the two, it's like Goku beating Vegito

Obviously he isn't a fusion of the two and its not like Goku beating Vegito.

Can Madara use every single one of Hashirama's abilities and techniques? No. So that invalidates your little comparison.

 

[Champ]

Obviously he isn't a fusion of the two and its not like Goku beating Vegito.

Can Madara use every single one of Hashirama's abilities and techniques? No. So that invalidates your little comparison.

You spout non sense with no proof. Hashirama powers are infused in him, with his unlimted charka he can recreate anything Hashirama has done with Mokuton.

 

[KidGamer65]

You spout non sense with no proof. Hashirama powers are infused in him, with his unlimted charka he can recreate anything Hashirama has done with Mokuton.

:sy: I can say the same for you. Without access to his SM he can't use Hashirama's Sage Mokuton techniques, Example: Shinsennjuu so no Hashirama+Madara does NOT equal Edo Madara.

Who's spouting nonsense now?

 

[Champ]

:sy: I can say the same for you. Without access to his SM he can't use Hashirama's Sage Mokuton techniques, Example: Shinsennjuu so no Hashirama+Madara does NOT equal Edo Madara.

Who's spouting nonsense now?

I know Edo Madara is above him. Does Hashirama have unlimited chakra like Madara? No. he has to go into Sage mode so it can add chakra and boost his technique, like Jiraiya who needs to be in Sage mode inorder to make a Big ball rasengan Naruto doesn't. With unlimit chakra there's nothin Madara can't recreate with Mokuton.