Edo Itachi vs SM Kabuto

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Okay, so tweaking it further;


we change this:


to this:


Again, feel free to correct me; but if this is fine, what reason or reasons do you have for thinking this? (explain this to me as if I've never heard it before.)
I shall post tomorrow.
 

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@KidGamer I don't want to drag this too much especially on my phone but I'll just drop this topic for now.

@Beans Not sure why I should even believe that first scan is Susanoo being dispelled. When the Aura begins to look like that, you'll have a point. For now, just don't expect me to accept that. As for the Izanami aspect, I don't have the proper means to reply well but whatever.

@FT We speaking on this next week for sure bro ������. Never imagined Itachi winning this fight but we'll see.
I mean... if you want to, then go for it. Like I said, me, you, and KG have discussed this before, and I'm pretty sure you conceded that it could go either way high-difficulty.

The "Big Gun" (KG) concede his argument till further notice.

I dont see how you got to that conclusion.

And thats only 1 option ror Kabuto
Kabuto doesn't have options. You came in here thinking Mugen Onsa was going to one-shot. Oh, you thought.

Nah, but seriously, I don't see how Itachi loses. With his skillset, arsenal, unlimited chakra, and intel, Edo Itachi should be capable of preventing and/or countering pretty much everything Kabuto has to dish out. I haven't seen anything that I couldn't come up with a counter for.
 

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Nah, but seriously, I don't see how Itachi loses. With his skillset, arsenal, unlimited chakra, and intel, Edo Itachi should be capable of preventing and/or countering pretty much everything Kabuto has to dish out. I haven't seen anything that I couldn't come up with a counter for.
Check out my point to where KG concedes. And also my first post I'll quote:

I'm seeing Shadow Clones as the main argument on why Itachi takes this. Kabuto replicates this when he activates Orochimaru via DNA, who has full access to Orochimaru's jutsu/abilities.

Anyway Spider webs spams on Itachi, who canonically would of have been trapped with bone forest combo. He either gets trap in webs or taken out underneath with bones. Like canon, as canon limited Kabuto from not hurting Sasuke.

Manda 2 also crushes clones while Kabuto and his own clones deal with orignal, since the orignal can only wield spiritual items.
 

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I mean... if you want to, then go for it. Like I said, me, you, and KG have discussed this before, and I'm pretty sure you conceded that it could go either way high-difficulty.



Kabuto doesn't have options. You came in here thinking Mugen Onsa was going to one-shot. Oh, you thought.

Nah, but seriously, I don't see how Itachi loses. With his skillset, arsenal, unlimited chakra, and intel, Edo Itachi should be capable of preventing and/or countering pretty much everything Kabuto has to dish out. I haven't seen anything that I couldn't come up with a counter for.
Yet kabuto has always had a counter for every itachi tech bar izanami. You itachi fans are only mentioning the mein stream sm techs. Lol kabuto literally has wayyyyyyy more outs and ways of offing itachi it isn't even funny bro. It's literally too much to list. You've always argued with non kabuto fans but have never dealt with a kabuto fan that knows the ninja in and out! Kabuto mid diffs with any fanfic itachi anyone wants to use.
 

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Itachi:Solo Crow i choose you

Itachi: Solo Crow use Kotoamatsukami

Kabuto: Itachi your so cool your my hero

Itachi: You were bless to be trapped in my genjutsu i didn't want to have and kill you lol

Kotoamatsukami GG
 

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Check out my point to where KG concedes. And also my first post I'll quote:
I'm not going to go fishing throughout this entire thread bruh... In regards to your quote; it has been stated and shown multiple times in the manga that Orochimaru has absolutely nothing on Itachi. So I don't see anything in his arsenal being of use to you. Shadow clone are accomplishing what exactly? It's going to make Edo Itachi outlasting Kabuto easier.

You need to understand that Itachi was being extremely conservative in that fight, because he had to be careful not to kill Kabuto, had zero intel on him, had to worry about and defend Sasuke, and was prepping Izanami nearly the entire time. This is a completely different ball game, so Itachi isn't going to be simply caught in the same scenerio's that he was the first time. A simple 360 sweep of Totsuka blade would take care of the webs and bones, assuming he's put in that position. Manda 2 gets sealed.

Yet kabuto has always had a counter for every itachi tech bar izanami. You itachi fans are only mentioning the mein stream sm techs. Lol kabuto literally has wayyyyyyy more outs and ways of offing itachi it isn't even funny bro. It's literally too much to list. You've always argued with non kabuto fans but have never dealt with a kabuto fan that knows the ninja in and out! Kabuto mid diffs with any fanfic itachi anyone wants to use.
Nope, Itachi is invincible you see.
 
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I'm not going to go fishing throughout this entire thread bruh... In regards to your quote; it has been stated and shown multiple times in the manga that Orochimaru has absolutely nothing on Itachi. So I don't see anything in his arsenal being of use to you. Shadow clone are accomplishing what exactly? It's going to make Edo Itachi outlasting Kabuto easier.
Honestly wasnt the entire thread, it was just page 9. In short:

1. Kabuto doesn't hold back.

2. DB gives more detail of Kabuto with Den'ien'ei.
Utilising the power of senjutsu, Kabuto is able to freely use the abilities, talents, and kekkei genkai of the shinobi whose DNA he integrates within himself. As a strategic alternative, he can instead channel their collective abilities into mindless clones, respective to each shinobi, that are generated through his naval snake.
Meaning Kabuto can use their abilities along with using Sakon's body, on his stomach, and contribute work along with him.

3. Kabuto multitasking leaves no room for Itachi to counter. Example: Caught Itachi in a genjutsu while simultaneously summon Manda 2. The size sheer size and mass wipes and crushes everyone on the field, leaving no room and time for clones to break Itachi out.

Regarding @Bold though he said that doesnt change the fact he had trouble by an ability. Meaning Oral Rebirth (as he admitted difficult to detect and canonically got caught. And the fact that it doesn't mean he can counter Orochimaru body fluid poison.

Shadow Clones adds twice the stress Itachi can't handle. Kabuto alone was capable of catching Itachi and Sasuke off guard[ ]. Clones makes things much worst.

You need to understand that Itachi was being extremely conservative in that fight, because he had to be careful not to kill Kabuto, had zero intel on him, had to worry about and defend Sasuke, and was prepping Izanami nearly the entire time. This is a completely different ball game, so Itachi isn't going to be simply caught in the same scenerio's that he was the first time. A simple 360 sweep of Totsuka blade would take care of the webs and bones, assuming he's put in that position. Manda 2 gets sealed.
Honestly not relevant on how he takes down Kabuto, especially when Kabuto had the mindset of not going all out either, since he would never ever use jutsus that would hurt Sasuke. Kabuto counters everything Itachi possess. Itachi's only victory is to land Totsuka, which is a stretch of accomplishment

@Bold Nope not happening like in canon and plus I stated multiple webs shots[ ] Totsuka swining will just catch some of them while more is being produce to be fired. By both Kabuto, Cloness, and Sakon copy. He gets over whelmed. Plus if he counters it with Ammy, Sussanoo drops.

Manda usage was addressed in a different position.
 
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Honestly wasnt the entire thread, it was just page 9. In short:

1. Kabuto doesn't hold back.

2. DB gives more detail of Kabuto with Den'ien'ei.


Meaning Kabuto can use their abilities along with using Sakon's body, on his stomach, and contribute work along with him.

3. Kabuto multitasking leaves no room for Itachi to counter. Example: Caught Itachi in a genjutsu while simultaneously summon Manda 2. The size sheer size and mass wipes and crushes everyone on the field, leaving no room and time for clones to break Itachi out.

Regarding @Bold though he said that doesnt change the fact he had trouble by an ability. Meaning Oral Rebirth (as he admitted difficult to detect and canonically got caught. And the fact that it doesn't mean he can counter Orochimaru body fluid poison.

Shadow Clones adds twice the stress Itachi can't handle. Kabuto alone was capable of catching Itachi and Sasuke off guard[ ]. Clones makes things much worst.
He can though. With full intel and nothing holding him back, you really think Itachi is going to sit and easily allow Kabuto to execute something like Tayuyas genjutsu, for example? He stated Oral Rebirth was difficult to detect, but at the same time was nearly blind. He got caught by Kabutos while dropping his guard completely, and putting all his focus on initiating Izanami. Won't be so easy this time around. Orochimaru's poison gas didn't make it's way through susano'o shroud [ ]. Kage Bunshins can be immediately countered with Explosive/Crow Bunshin, among other methods. Itachi is the more proficient bunshin user anyways; even Kabuto didn't detect it's immediate use.


Honestly not relevant on how he takes down Kabuto, especially when Kabuto had the mindset of not going all out either, since he would never ever use jutsus that would hurt Sasuke. Kabuto counters everything Itachi possess. Itachi's only victory is to land Totsuka, which is a stretch of accomplishment

@Bold Nope not happening like in canon and plus I stated multiple webs shots[ ] Totsuka swining will just catch some of them while more is being produce to be fired. By both Kabuto, Cloness, and Sakon copy. He gets over whelmed. Plus if he counters it with Ammy, Sussanoo drops.

Manda usage was addressed in a different position.
The fact of the matter is, Itachi had to hold back immensely. No disputing that. A lot of the scenerios he was caught up in would of never occured in the first place, especially with given intel on it. Catching Kabuto with Totsuka really isn't that much of a stretch, considering Itachi already cannonically was able to create an opening for it. Added to the fact that I don't even think Kabuto has intel on it, unless you can prove otherwise.

In that case, Yata repels all of the webs right back at Kabuto, while Totsuka sweeps the bones. Or alternatively, Itachi his way through the webs with Yata Mirror in front of him, before the bones reach him. Magnatamas/ bunshins handle the clones. And I see no reason why susano'o would drop in it's lower stages when used in tandem with Amaterasu.
 

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He can though. With full intel and nothing holding him back, you really think Itachi is going to sit and easily allow Kabuto to execute something like Tayuyas genjutsu, for example? He stated Oral Rebirth was difficult to detect, but at the same time was nearly blind. He got caught by Kabutos while dropping his guard completely, and putting all his focus on initiating Izanami. Won't be so easy this time around. Orochimaru's poison gas didn't make it's way through susano'o shroud [ ]. Kage Bunshins can be immediately countered with Explosive/Crow Bunshin, among other methods. Itachi is the more proficient bunshin user anyways; even Kabuto didn't detect it's immediate use.




The fact of the matter is, Itachi had to hold back immensely. No disputing that. A lot of the scenerios he was caught up in would of never occured in the first place, especially with given intel on it. Catching Kabuto with Totsuka really isn't that much of a stretch, considering Itachi already cannonically was able to create an opening for it. Added to the fact that I don't even think Kabuto has intel on it, unless you can prove otherwise.

In that case, Yata repels all of the webs right back at Kabuto, while Totsuka sweeps the bones. Or alternatively, Itachi his way through the webs with Yata Mirror in front of him, before the bones reach him. Magnatamas/ bunshins handle the clones. And I see no reason why susano'o would drop in it's lower stages when used in tandem with Amaterasu.
All of this yet Kabuto Mid diffs his ass like the Patriots will the Giants Week 10!
 

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All of this yet Kabuto Mid diffs his ass like the Patriots will the Giants Week 10!
LMAOOOOOOOOO

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He can though. With full intel and nothing holding him back, you really think Itachi is going to sit and easily allow Kabuto to execute something like Tayuyas genjutsu, for example? He stated Oral Rebirth was difficult to detect, but at the same time was nearly blind. He got caught by Kabutos while dropping his guard completely, and putting all his focus on initiating Izanami. Won't be so easy this time around. Orochimaru's poison gas didn't make it's way through susano'o shroud [ ]. Kage Bunshins can be immediately countered with Explosive/Crow Bunshin, among other methods. Itachi is the more proficient bunshin user anyways; even Kabuto didn't detect it's immediate use.
Sit there? No. Is he stopping it anyway? No. Not unless Itachi execute something faster then Susanoo arrow. Plus the fact that he got extra eyes for support so theres no losing track of him. Being nearly blind isnt an excuse, he had plenty of time to check on Sasuke's body and chakra signature around the location (he out right told sasuke he was low on reserves). Plus in Kabuto scenario, I was leaning towards Itachi against Kabuto inside Izanami. Orochimaru poison gas didnt get through because it was never used, simple. No body cut from Orochimaru then no poison is exposed.

Dont see what Itachi Bushins do here. Only effective counter is Explosive ones. But I am addressing my clones using long range so its irrelevant to get close.


The fact of the matter is, Itachi had to hold back immensely. No disputing that. A lot of the scenerios he was caught up in would of never occured in the first place, especially with given intel on it. Catching Kabuto with Totsuka really isn't that much of a stretch, considering Itachi already cannonically was able to create an opening for it. Added to the fact that I don't even think Kabuto has intel on it, unless you can prove otherwise.
Itachi making an opening was because Kabuto decided to stand around and see what the Uchiha chemistry were, since he thought they had none[ ]. Shown middle panel, seeing that attack from a mile away[ ]. Not only does Itachi have anything that move faster then Arrow, Kabuto doesn't need to stand around in the same place, as he was only caught when distracted.

@Bold: Watching the fight were he was controlling Edo Nagato?

In that case, Yata repels all of the webs right back at Kabuto, while Totsuka sweeps the bones. Or alternatively, Itachi his way through the webs with Yata Mirror in front of him, before the bones reach him. Magnatamas/ bunshins handle the clones. And I see no reason why susano'o would drop in it's lower stages when used in tandem with Amaterasu.


I was under the impression that webs will stick on the shield. Ill drop that point and say they he drops them on the floor and ceilings so he cant go anywhere. Totsuka isn't sweeping the bones when its not stopping to trap Itachi, its going to continue and pierce him underneath. Maga is slower then Arrow so no it doesnt. And bushins I addressed.

@Bold I am going by canon materiel. Sasuke holding up V2 Susanoo with Ammy use means Susanoo gets a cool-time. Otherwise Itachi has to use it with ribcage.
 

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Awww, someones still mad from that other thread :( Tell you what, after you finish with the coloring, we can start teaching you the a-b-c's.
You and KG with the insults your still salty i owned you in that Itachi Taijutsu thread so you resorted to your insults L00l. Don't get mad at me because your getting clowned just like KG did he conceded for a reason. You jumping in defending Itachi will end the same way it did with KG you conceding. Instead of worrying about me im waiting for that reply to Ejblack.

Inb4 Icelerate...
 
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