Edo Itachi and Edo Minato VS Edo Nagato and Obito

who wins?

  • Edo Itachi and Edo Minato

    Votes: 11 55.0%
  • Edo Nagato and Obito

    Votes: 9 45.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Team 1 destroys both scenarios, seriously. Itachi and Minato are just a perfect team. Minato has Naruto's KCM and BM plus Hiraishin, that alone makes him hax as hell. He can teleport himself in Bijuu Mode or his Bijuu Damas, he can boost Itachi with Kyuubi's Chakra to increase his stamina, power and skills by several times while marking him as well, so he can teleport to Itachi any time or teleport him away. Itachi could summon a swarm of crows with a few of them being marked and send them to Nagato. Or he shots a Bijuudama to Nagato to force him to absorb it and then teleporting Itachi together with his Susanoo near Nagato and let him blitz him with Totsuka, as the Bijuu Dama contains Minato's Chakra and he is able to teleport objects to sources of his Chakra.
Agreed. Team one is way too versatile and has way too many options to possibly lose here along with their own superior skill.
 

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Team one should win, mid-high difficulty both scenarios.

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Since in Edo Tensei body, this should mean that Minato possesses his Kyūbi. Minato starts off in full Bijū, with two clones which one acts as Hiraishin support and the other however in KCM uses Rasengan from close range. The original stays far off gathering Senjutsu and uses continuous Bijūdama's enhanced with Senjutsu, of course. These are launched at Obito, while Itachi from the start 'paralyzes' Nagato with . For about five minutes, Obito will have to fight himself these two along with the vessel. If Nagato comes back, Itachi stabs him . The vessel from the start, is Hiraishin'd or Amaterasu'd by either parties--either way, it won't be staying for long. While Minato is in BSM, he cannot absorb the Bijūdama's directed at him because it would turn him stone immediately--he'd have to pass it through. Not to mention, while he's distracted by Minato, a clone of Minato that is in KCM fights him CQC. Obito will be fairly concentrated on Minato who is extremely fast and would probably not notice Itachi coming from behind. After turning tangible, a quick Amaterasu would burn him until he gets rid of it in (most likely warps it to Kamui). A Totsuka or Bijūdama ends it after he comes back.​
 

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- he doesn't "need" kunai to teleport, only things that are connected to him or his chakra. Besides, in BM minato has the strength to hurl Kunai's a mile away from the battlefield. How far do you think Minatos kunai will fly if he smacks it with one if his tails? Not that minato doesn't have markings elsewhere in the first place . He can teleport to clones too or even the ground he's touched. And since the location is by the ocean he can just throw a kunai into the water.
Minato doesn't need kunai? Yeah he kinda does, how is minato going to teleport around the field otherwise? He isn't going to mark the battlefield if he has kunai set up, & if those kunai get destroyed then he has no places to teleport to. Minato doesn't mark the area around him, especially with kunai set up, so yes he does need them if he wants a chance to properly evade every single time.

So minato can hurl kunai a mile away? But I'm the one that's supposed to be making the baseless assumptions? Lol Can you show me minato throwing a kunai a mile away? Bijuudama's/chakra blasts easily cover the range that minato can throw those kunai, smacking them with his tails isn't knocking them out of bijuudama range unless you have some sort of proof which shows us the contrary. But bijuudamas can be launched in far off locations anyways so it's not like throwing them far away will change the outcome.

Clones die, rocks he's touched [assuming he touches any which is not how he fights with kunai set up] get obliterated, & throwing it in the water is useless, nagato is a sensor plus he can raise rocks & debris out of the water. [ ] All nagato has to do is use BT or even CBT to raise all the boulders/kunai, in fact this can work for all of minato's kunai, no proof is telling me that minato can throw tiny objects harder than the force of nagato's gravity can pull, well at least for his CBT.

- lol, the avatar is very much physical and only the Jin (ie BM minato and BM Naruto) have shown the ability to allow someone to enter it. Obito teleporting inside is just a baseless assumption. That's like saying Obito can teleport inside killer bee in BM. When I see him teleport inside another being then I'll believe it. And even if he could, that means he'd be directly in contact with Minatos chakra which means he can instantly teleport to him and slice his head off (you must think Obito is real stupid).
The avatar is chakra manifested, it is malleable, meaning he can teleport inside. Saying he can't teleport inside it is like saying he can't teleport anywhere on earth because there is "air" in the way. The chakra is not solid so he can teleport inside of it, being physical means nothing, it's not a solid, it's either a liquid or gaseous state. Obito can teleport through gas, water is similar to gas in that it's easily malleable & can be pushed away if something occupies the same space. Obito would simply get stuck inside a solid which is why he wouldn't be able to teleport inside one. Killerbee's BM is a solid mass, so it's hardly a valid comparison especially since we've never seen it do do what kurama can do [store people inside of him].

You saying that only the jin can let people enter/exit the avatar is actually a baseless claim. Show me where that's confirmed, we just see naruto give his teammates the chance to enter, there's nothing saying that they won't be able to enter if naruto says no. So please stop calling my claims baseless when you can't even prove your own. We've seen people enter the chakra, they are able to float inside of it, this implies that the chakra from BM is not solid, therefore obito can teleport inside & the chakra occupying his space will be pushed away.

If obito teleports into the avatar with chakra rods in hand he can immediately activate the chains as soon as he enters, so minato being in contact with his chakra at that point wouldn't help, if he teleports to obito then all obito has to do it let go of the rods & become intangible, minato can't hit him & the seal's chain is now activated. As minato tries to deal with the initial rods obito will then just spam more.

- chakra rods can be spammed according to you right? Because I never saw them spammed.
Really? Well then you must not be looking hard enough. ;)

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How do you think he peppered gyuki?

I'll tell you what can be spammed - FTG.
Not without proper kunai prep, CBT gets rid of kunai, bijuudamas get rid of them, gedo mazou gets rid of them, etc. Plenty of ways to get rid of the kunai, but regardless, spamming is useless when obito can casually teleport inside or just as easily approach it from below ground.

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- Another baseless assumption, saying minato won't dodge an attack flying directly towards him. He's very aware of what kushina's chains can do to a tailed beast, so him seeing chains/rods wouldn't take common sense for him to realise that they could be dangerous of touched. And even of they touch him, they won't drain all his chakra instantly, he can just teleport out of it as long as he still has chakra. Not to mention that minato can still use a space time barrier which will est up every projectile thrown at him. He can makes barriers large enough to consume a tailed beast bomb and Juubi tailed beast bomb, so chakra roads aren't getting anywhere near him.
Baseless assumption? It really looks as though you don't know the meaning of that phrase. Every single one of my of my arguments has foundation & I haven't made anything up [unlike you & that 1 mile throwing distance assumption]. Just because you disagree with my points doesn't mean they're baseless... U_U U_U

Minato isn't dodging every single attack when he has to deal with bijuudamas & the gedo mazou plus multiple path summons & many more obstacles on top of that. Saying that minato will be able to see & dodge every single chakra rod is probably as baseless as you can get, can you show me proof that minato can dodge multiple attacks comming from multiple directions at multiple different times...? See? u_u Now I don't want to hear anymore about this "baseless" nonsense, minato isn't a god, he isn't omnipresent, he can be hit & when the time comes he will choose whether being hit by a rod or a bijuudama is the better choice.

Chakra rods & chakra chains are two different things, kushina has chains, not rods. Obito uses his rods to activate the chains, if minato sees the rods he isn't going to even consider the fact that they can do what kushina's chains do, so no it doesn't take common sense it takes prior experience with the weapon, something that minato doesn't have.

If minato teleports the rods are coming with him, plus they don't drain chakra, they bind bijuu powers & movements, so minato will be stuck as a useless chakra avatar that's being bound by chains, maybe he can teleport around still but he's unable to do anything else, this leaves him wide open for a warp. S/t barrier is bypassed via intangibility/teleportation. No proof that the barrier covers all angles so attacking from behind/above/below is still viable. Not to mention s/t barrier needs a destination, if minato has no kunai set up then s/t barrier isn't working.
 
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