Edo Hiruzen vs Mū

[Beans2]

Location: Gaara vs Kimimaro
Intel: Manga
Distance: 50m
Restrictions: RDS, edo regen

 

[Lord Tywin]

Is there a scenario that Hiruzen doesn't go past mid diff?
edit: he low diffs tbh

 

[Curse Mark]

Hiruzen wins

 

[MickNerks]

Hiruzen 4TW.

Seriously I do see Edo Hiruzen taking this with (worst case) Mid Dif

 

[Beans2]

Hiruzen 4TW.

Seriously I do see Edo Hiruzen taking this with (worst case) Mid Dif

Is there a scenario that Hiruzen doesn't go past mid diff?
edit: he low diffs tbh

How does Hiruzen kill Muu?

 

[Lord Tywin]

How does Hiruzen kill Muu?

What Muu can even do against Hituzen? His entire Arsenal is countered. Invisibility doesn't work because of clones and Hiruzen's smelling prowess. Jinton is interrupted by his elementals. Cqc is suicide too

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Hiruzen 4TW.

Seriously I do see Edo Hiruzen taking this with (worst case) Mid Dif

How does hurizen hit mu in the air ? Or when has he shown feats to out speed jinton and what if he does it like how onooki did it cut down Forrest ?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

What Muu can even do against Hituzen? His entire Arsenal is countered. Invisibility doesn't work because of clones and Hiruzen's smelling prowess. Jinton is interrupted by his elementals. Cqc is suicide too

If it's not the cube it can be cast damn near instantly as onooki showed when kages got in flower world this is interesting cuz ppl (myself included) when Edo Madara was strongest char at that point of the war ranked Mu way higher then hurizen

I'm curious do u guys think he can beat gaara as well ?

 

[Glo Senpai]

Invisibility is useless via Hiruzen sniffing him out but I won't agree with ninjutsu being executed faster then Jinton. Nothing in Hiruzen's elemental arsenal has shown to be as fast as Jinton. If anything is going to interrupt Jinton, it's going to be clones, which is the main reason Hiruzen takes this.

 

[Glo Senpai]

I'm curious do u guys think he can beat gaara as well ?

Gaara pimp slaps Edo Hiruzen.

 

[super yang]

I'm curious do u guys think he can beat gaara as well ?

yes...

How does hurizen hit mu in the air ? Or when has he shown feats to out speed jinton and what if he does it like how onooki did it cut down Forrest ?

enma staff would blitz him in the air & jin'ton would be interupted & intercepted by ninjutsu clones

 

[Genyūmaru1]

I laughed @ Edo Hiruzen beating Gaara. Sit the f*ck down.

OT: Mu wins here. Edo Hiruzen even though sensing his location via smell is possible he has no way to possibly reach Mu @ such high altitude no matter how much you fanboy him. His elemental jutsu are easy to dodge, especially if Mu is beyond the long range stipulations - On top of Hiruzen having linear elemental jutsu applications anyway.

Mu uses a large scale Jinton, and utterly destroys Hiruzen.

 

[Beans2]

What Muu can even do against Hituzen? His entire Arsenal is countered. Invisibility doesn't work because of clones and Hiruzen's smelling prowess. Jinton is interrupted by his elementals. Cqc is suicide too

Don't think Muu can be smelled considering an Iwa jonin was capable of concealing his scent and Muu is hyped to completely erase his presence

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Muu can just go invisible and weigh down all of Hiruzen's clones, one at a time until they're all immobile so then he can wipe them out with Jinton

 

[Curse Mark]

Don't think Muu can be smelled considering an Iwa jonin was capable of concealing his scent and Muu is hyped to completely erase his presence

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Muu can just go invisible and weigh down all of Hiruzen's clones, one at a time until they're all immobile so then he can wipe them out with Jinton

Know what's weird? That he didn't recognize Oro's scent at the chuunin exams. And saw him several times. Even Kakashi recognized him.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Don't think Muu can be smelled considering an Iwa jonin was capable of concealing his scent and Muu is hyped to completely erase his presence

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Muu can just go invisible and weigh down all of Hiruzen's clones, one at a time until they're all immobile so then he can wipe them out with Jinton

i doubt Teen Kakashi's smelling prowess equals to Hiruzen. Hiruzen was under genjutsu and still smelled his opponent. Muu is simple invisibility.
Weighting down isn't going to do much when Hiruzen can cancel his clones and make more. I still don't see Hiruzen having trouble getting close to him while invisible

 

[Curse Mark]

i doubt Teen Kakashi's smelling prowess equals to Hiruzen. Hiruzen was under genjutsu and still smelled his opponent. Muu is simple invisibility.
Weighting down isn't going to do much when Hiruzen can cancel his clones and make more. I still don't see Hiruzen having trouble getting close to him while invisible

If Muu's jutsu only makes him invisible it should be no different than the genjutsu that stopped Hiruzen from seeing the edo kages, right?

 

[Lariatoo]

Hiruzen actually wins this...
He really don't need to see where Mū is.
Just make four clones and spam Bijuu sized Fire on all dorections.

 

[NarutoX28]

Hiruzen would still be at a disadvantage when reacting to something he can't see which is something SM Jiraiya even implied.

 

[Uchihakil]

Muu destroys hiruzen, enma is disintegrated with jinton leaving hiruzen with his elemental attacks, muu also posses 5 elements, + muu can not be sensed/smelled without one being a contact sensor, we already saw how he shat on ohnoki's clones, hiruzen clones are'nt any different, + jinton ploughs through any attack and will reach hiruzen (doton aint saving him neiither is enma from jinton) muu can simply touch enma and make it too heavy for hiruzen to use (all he needs is a touch) it took kcm naruto, gaara and ohnoki to beat muu (even with all these 3 kage level ninja's, he still managed to escape) I know a > b > c logic does'nt apply all the time, but gaara alone is enough to give hiruzen a tough fight, and gaara and ohnoki could'nt do jack till naruto showed up (despite gaara being a contact sensor and ohnoki having flight as well as jinton and knowledge on muu) muu is underrated as usual

 

[Beans2]

i doubt Teen Kakashi's smelling prowess equals to Hiruzen. Hiruzen was under genjutsu and still smelled his opponent. Muu is simple invisibility.
Weighting down isn't going to do much when Hiruzen can cancel his clones and make more. I still don't see Hiruzen having trouble getting close to him while invisible

Bold is just an assumption though, characters like Kiba have been known to smell chakra so it's likely Hiruzen locates his opponents by smelling their chakra as well. Muu, who extinguishes his chakra, won't be detected.

If Muu weighs down a clone then the clone will be immobile. Hiruzen doesnt know the clone is weighted. So Muu just rinses and repeats until he eventually hits the real one.