Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

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Hashirama was controlled sloppily by Orochimaru, if he was roaming free will he would have been stronger.

As for Hiruzen prime, his old age would have effected his stamina/chakra. Neither of which is an issue for an Edo. This is with the assumption Orochimaru lets them fight uncontrolled.

No, it affected everything according to Enma. He is definitely stronger in this state than in the fight with Oro, but he still lacks a young strong and fast body.
 

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lets wait & see shall we
 

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yah i do have the same avatar dont know why he is copying my ava xd

OT: Its obvious that you are hating on Uchihas there is no way Hiruzen stands any chance to Obito or Madara until i see this Godly Hiruzen I stand on my case hes and old fart that doesnt even deserve to be in the top 20 strongest ninja U_U

you also have forgotten that the old man is under edo tensie aka under oro's control not his own free will

I stole yours? pff Looks at date joined :sy: Also mine looks a 1000 times better than your pixelated avatar :cool:

Also no hate on Uchihas why would I hate two of my fav characters. I hate Sasuke and others but I like both Tobi and Madara. I've stated facts thats all

If Madara takes on Edo Hashirama, Edo Tobirama and Edo Hiruzen will be right behind em. While on the other side, it's Sensei Vs Student once again; Edo Minato Vs Obito. :cool: As much as I can see, Fuinjutsu is Edo Madara's weakness here. Hiruzen, Minato and Hashirama are skilled in this but I still don't know about Tobirama. U_U

Why not :cool:
 

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I don't know why, but I want Madara to wreck Hiruzen...like shame him so badly that it's not even a contest.
 

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we dont really have the same one if you look closely i edited mine and gave it more color ;) his is a lamer version
 

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Dan , a high level jounin. Believes that Sarutobi doesn't stand a chance. ^_^. Go figure.
 

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and my ava use to be bigger when i had a membership :( i still have to re-size it and make it a little bigger just been putting it off
 

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i wont say anything.let`s just wait and see,maybe there is sth behind that god of shinobi hype,maybe not
 

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No, it affected everything according to Enma. He is definitely stronger in this state than in the fight with Oro, but he still lacks a young strong and fast body.

His body can't fatigue, his joints won't ache, in what way is his body slower/weaker?
 

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The kages haven't started yet and it's still unknown if they will eventhough it's really doubtful that they won't try a thing. Maybe we should wait and see what happens, but i'm pretty sure that each Hokage will surprise us by some new tricks. Who could have imagine Madara to be this strong when he appeared? Nice thread anyway :)

Thanks :D

Madara will lough at hiruzen like a baws

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every hokage is 40/40 in Edo Mode :p :p :p so much for your theory :p

I suppose you're right :p

lets wait & see shall we

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It's funny because you have the same avatar. So strange he'd bash Madara :rofl:

No bashing! Just stating the obvious U_U
 

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Hhhmmm interesting theory.
But saying that prime Hiruzen would have a perfect 40??That's a hasty conclusion.The power of a jutsu doesn't necessarily has to do with big reserves of chakra,is about chakra control and manipulation.So a 5 in power as edo is not guaranteed.Plus Madara is edoed too,so with your logic his stats will grow stronger too.
This god of shinobi thing sounds really fishy to me.I believe that he was very strong and had a big arsenal of jutsus and that why he was called like that not because he was the stronger kage or shinobi that ever lived.
The thing with the 1000 illusions was mentioned by Ebisu to exaggerate the effort and the years that someone has to train to become Hokage.
About knowing all jutsus in Konoha, that doesn't necessarily means that he has mastered them all.I mean we only saw him using katon and doton who can he mastered all jutsus in konoha?
And lastly Oro's edo was incomplete so Hashirama and Tobirama weren't fighting with their full potentials.
 

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yeah yeah we all know, hiruzen > juubi
hiruzen > rikudo sennin
why? because hiruzen can blow some fire and spit out some earth
 

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Hiruzen who is hyped to be the strongest Hokage of the history and was the strongest of 5 Kages at the time his death!! Meaning Alive-Old Hiruzen was stronger than Onnoki, Ay U_U

Edo Tensei means an Immortal body with infinite chakra!

Edo Hiruzen stats :

Old Hiruzen has 34 in total. He has 3's in Speed, Stamina, Strength. It wouldn't be an exaggeration if one says that Prime Hiruzen had a perfect 40, I mean he was the God of All Shinobis for a reason.

Now make Stamina a 5 and strength a 5 [chakra infused] that makes him a 38 and with constant chakra infused speed makes him a perfect 40!

So statistically he is the strongest shinobi ever to appear in the Manga U_U

A few things about Hiruzen :

1. Knows every Jutsu form Konoha meaning he can perform shit load of Jutsus and knows how to counter the one's that he can't perform [KKG Jutsus and Character specific Jutsus] !

2. Knows more than 1000 illusions that could put Juubi is its place.

3. Knows how to counter all the MS/EMS techs [Official Fanbook 2 by Masashi Kishimoto] meaning he shits on Madara's PSS.


Now Hiruzen can overstep Wood style, EMS that pretty much shows why he was hyped and feared by all. The only thing that Hiruzen doesn't know is the Rinnegan abilities but it won't be long before he figures it out.

He can take on Madara and beat him. Obito also would fail if Hiruzen uses his shadow clone Jutsu. Making it hard for Tobi to use Kamui because if one Hiruzen clone goes into Kamui world or stays outside means KO Tobi!

Also both Madara and Obito haven't shown any sealing Jutsu so technically they shit their pants if they face Edo Hiruzen U_U

What do you think?

PS : This isn't a hate thread or a troll thread. So no flaming please!

'Hiruzen can jump over wood style'
How the **** does he beat advent of a flowering trees?
 

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Er, no.

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And this is coming from Dan who didn't even know that Madara was upgraded at that.
Not to mention that Dan was a jounin in Hiruzen's prime.
****ing hiruzen fan-nuts.
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His body can't fatigue, his joints won't ache, in what way is his body slower/weaker?

So Usain Bolt will still be as fast/strong as he is now at 70 granted his joints are fine and he is in good shape?

Stamina doesn't determine speed/strength, muscles do.
 

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I might add, the reason why Hashirama isn't considered the strongest is because kabuto said he was so strong he is considered a myth such as the SO6p
 

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I don't know why, but I want Madara to wreck Hiruzen...like shame him so badly that it's not even a contest.

:p Hiruzen would beat him :noc:


Dan , a high level jounin. Believes that Sarutobi doesn't stand a chance. ^_^. Go figure.

Nope he believes that only Hashirama can beat him, pff Tobi is above Madara so he fails U_U Also Kabuto and Orochimaru [with their edos] are above Madara as well

we dont really have the same one if you look closely i edited mine and gave it more color ;) his is a lamer version

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and my ava use to be bigger when i had a membership :( i still have to re-size it and make it a little bigger just been putting it off

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i wont say anything.let`s just wait and see,maybe there is sth behind that god of shinobi hype,maybe not



There definitely is.
 

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Hhhmmm interesting theory.
But saying that prime Hiruzen would have a perfect 40??That's a hasty conclusion.The power of a jutsu doesn't necessarily has to do with big reserves of chakra,is about chakra control and manipulation.So a 5 in power as edo is not guaranteed.Plus Madara is edoed too,so with your logic his stats will grow stronger too.
This god of shinobi thing sounds really fishy to me.I believe that he was very strong and had a big arsenal of jutsus and that why he was called like that not because he was the stronger kage or shinobi that ever lived.
The thing with the 1000 illusions was mentioned by Ebisu to exaggerate the effort and the years that someone has to train to become Hokage.
About knowing all jutsus in Konoha, that doesn't necessarily means that he has mastered them all.I mean we only saw him using katon and doton who can he mastered all jutsus in konoha?
And lastly Oro's edo was incomplete so Hashirama and Tobirama weren't fighting with their full potentials.

About Oro's edos it didn't matter because he ultimately used the RDS.

Er, no.

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And this is coming from Dan who didn't even know that Madara was upgraded at that.

That Fodder Dan also doesn't know about Hiruzen might I mention that he died at the hands of some fodders and wanted to be Hokage when the likes of Oro and Jiraya were right there. Also this Hiruzen is upgraded as well.

yeah yeah we all know, hiruzen > juubi
hiruzen > rikudo sennin
why? because hiruzen can blow some fire and spit out some earth

Nice try but fail.

'Hiruzen can jump over wood style'
How the **** does he beat advent of a flowering trees?

Enma + Knowledge nuff said.

Not to mention that Dan was a jounin in Hiruzen's prime.
****ing hiruzen fan-nuts.
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Bitch Please.

I might add, the reason why Hashirama isn't considered the strongest is because kabuto said he was so strong he is considered a myth such as the SO6p

Yet lost to old Hiruzen :rolleyes:
 
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Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare
What do you mean counter the EMS techniques?? I don't see him countering Perfect Susanoo.

Until now Hiruzen is all hype and nothing more. We might see what he can do in the near future (or not )




i agree with kyo4 about this thread
 
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