[VS] Edo Dan Kato VS 100,000 Zetsu clone

[RicardoA]

1)ahm... i mean 3rd was alive when he was fightin 10k shinobi and not edo with ultimate chakra.... ofc he would get tired after 3 days... but edo wont.. thats what i mean... what u said i didnt get it why u even said all this? #5

I thought you implied the 3rd Ay was weaker in his edo form... Nevermind xD
There's still a limit to how much chakra an edo can continuously spend at a time (

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2) yup edo chakra reg very fast... not only this their charka pool is much larger than alive Shinobi....

Their chakra pool is the same as when they were alive.

3)yes panel time isnt anything when u have seen that guy used that Jutsu and Manga/DB says that he can use that Jutsu..... but for ppl its important.... everytime u see Dan Thread he will see he gets underastmated by ppl... only bc of panel time.... if we have ever seen his fights.... when Manga says that he killed MANY shinobi with his tech if we ever have seen it.... he wont get underastemated so much.... it like this just think about ppl only say what they see... they cant think lil more....

I know, its weird. But even when you look at his portrayal, you're overestimating his overall prowess as a shinobi. He was an above average/reknown jonin with a particularly nasty jutsu and potencial to become Hokage on the long run, that's it.
He's not 'kage level' and i've got my doubts on s-rank. Even if he were, those levels of shinobi aren't nearly enough to match this army either.

4)^^^^ above....... yes would be funny to see when they see their enemy body is there doesn't move and they still dieing somehow xD

Huh, isn't the ghost visible? I remember Madara was surprised when he saw an unconscious Tsunade move, but i've got the idea that Choza was visuall aware of everything when Dan activated the jutsu.
Regardeless, that would be funny indeed Lol

 

[Red Slayer]

I thought you implied the 3rd Ay was weaker in his edo form... Nevermind xD
There's still a limit to how much chakra an edo can continuously spend at a time (

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Their chakra pool is the same as when they were alive.



I know, its weird. But even when you look at his portrayal, you're overestimating his overall prowess as a shinobi. He was an above average/reknown jonin with a particularly nasty jutsu and potencial to become Hokage on the long run, that's it.
He's not 'kage level' and i've got my doubts on s-rank. Even if he were, those levels of shinobi aren't nearly enough to match this army either.



Huh, isn't the ghost visible? I remember Madara was surprised when he saw an unconscious Tsunade move, but i've got the idea that Choza was visuall aware of everything when Dan activated the jutsu.
Regardeless, that would be funny indeed Lol

1)sorry bro but this isnt even point.... they made as many clone as they could as and edo...

2)mm ha ? can u proof that?

3)yes he was around Jounin-maybe S-class and he had potential to make Kage as an Alive Shinobi.... i put Edo Form Dan bc i think that his Jutsu wont stop bc his Chakra wont run out...


4)yes Choza saw him... just like Other Edo SHinobi.... but i think all this happand bc of ET.... why Madara or other Kages couldn't see Him before Dan took control over in Tsunade Body?


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there is nothing written about how that Jutsu hurts its user ect....

I just was lil sad about Dan he is forgotten by everyone but he is really cool Character and his Jutsu is badass and unique...

 

[RicardoA]

1)sorry bro but this isnt even point.... they made as many clone as they could as and edo...

They made as many clones as they could while maintaining an extremely strong barrier. Multitasking.
This was to make a point about edos and their chakra pools. Constant struggle takes its toll on them as well. Here's another example (

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2)mm ha ? can u proof that?

Not atm.
But think about it, why not? I don't recall any remarks stating otherwise.
They certainly don't have larger chakra pools though.

3)yes he was around Jounin-maybe S-class and he had potential to make Kage as an Alive Shinobi.... i put Edo Form Dan bc i think that his Jutsu wont stop bc his Chakra wont run out...

Just because he won't get permanently exhausted and die from chakra loss doesn't mean he won't run out of chakra for a while.
I feel like we're going over the same points over and over again _@:

4)yes Choza saw him... just like Other Edo SHinobi.... but i think all this happand bc of ET.... why Madara or other Kages couldn't see Him before Dan took control over in Tsunade Body?

That makes sense, i think.

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there is nothing written about how that Jutsu hurts its user ect....

Who claimed his jutsu hurts the user?

I just was lil sad about Dan he is forgotten by everyone but he is really cool Character and his Jutsu is badass and unique...

I don't think he's forgotten, he's just not as prominent = D

 

[Red Slayer]

They made as many clones as they could while maintaining an extremely strong barrier. Multitasking.
This was to make a point about edos and their chakra pools. Constant struggle takes its toll on them as well. Here's another example (

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Not atm.
But think about it, why not? I don't recall any remarks stating otherwise.
They certainly don't have larger chakra pools though.



Just because he won't get permanently exhausted and die from chakra loss doesn't mean he won't run out of chakra for a while.
I feel like we're going over the same points over and over again _@:



That makes sense, i think.



Who claimed his jutsu hurts the user?



I don't think he's forgotten, he's just not as prominent = D

1)yes they made as many clone as they could.... but they didnt ran out of Chakra....

2)ofc u cant how can u proof something that is against Manga using manga as a backup xD.... Manga says they have ultimate Chakra(its doesnt say they have ultimate chakra bc its reg very fast...)
yes we douing that u saying that Edo dont have ultimate chakra and they will rur out of chakra like they were alive.... but cant proof it ofc...

3)if his chakra us ultimate he cant run out of it so easily he will last pretty long with that tech....


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yup he is forgotten Imo im sure more than half of Naruto's fans doesnt even know who he is :X or barely remmeber...

 

[RicardoA]

1)yes they made as many clone as they could.... but they didnt ran out of Chakra....

Of course they didn't run out of chakra, they're not amateurs. If there's any character(s) that knows how much chakra it takes for them to use their own jutsus its them Lol Had Hashirama and Tobirama popped a few more clones, they would've blown the Hokage's formation. I think this was made pretty clear.
Again, edos have chakra limitations as well.

2)ofc u cant how can u proof something that is against Manga using manga as a backup xD.... Manga says they have ultimate Chakra(its doesnt say they have ultimate chakra bc its reg very fast...)
yes we douing that u saying that Edo dont have ultimate chakra and they will rur out of chakra like they were alive.... but cant proof it ofc...

You mean unlimited... That doesn't mean their chakra is always at 100%. Now, that's going against the manga.
You claimed an edos chakra pools are higher. What made you reach that conclusion then?

3)if his chakra us ultimate he cant run out of eat so easily he will last pretty long with that tech....

That doesn't even make sense >_>
I feel like you're just ignoring several key factors here.

 

[Red Slayer]

Of course they didn't run out of chakra, they're not amateurs. If there's any character(s) that knows how much chakra it takes for them to use their own jutsus its them Lol Had Hashirama and Tobirama popped a few more clones, the barrier would've popped as well.
Again, edos have chakra limitations as well.



You mean unlimited... That doesn't mean their chakra is always at 100%. Now, that's going against the manga.
You claimed an edos chakra pools are higher. What made you reach that conclusion?



That doesn't make sense. I feel like you're just ignoring several key factors here.

1)idk what are u trying to proof here?

2)im saying what Manga says..... Edo Shinobi Chakra is ultimate.....

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3)what factors im ignoring?

 

[RicardoA]

1)idk what are u trying to proof here?

You're referring to edos as if they're limitless machines. I'm just showing pieces of evidence that tell otherwise.

2)im saying what Manga says..... Edo Shinobi Chakra is ultimate.....

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Their chakra pools are not static. They always get fully replenished but they're not always at 100%
You keep misinterpreting what unlimited means in this context.

3)what factors im ignoring?

Where to start :|

 

[Red Slayer]

You're referring to edos as if they're limitless machines. I'm just showing pieces of evidence that tell otherwise.



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Their chakra pools are not static. They always get fully replenished but they're not always at 100%
You keep misinterpreting what unlimited means in this context.



Where to start :|

lol now thats pretty funny i showed u Manga scan which 100% on my side and proves my points.... and u ignoring it and saying its not true.... Lol keep denying truth... i have nothing more to say... and yeah just prove me wrong using MANGA scans and dont deny what it says dont use ur person claims.... thats where u have to start... scans scans...

 

[RicardoA]

lol now thats pretty funny i showed u Manga scan which 100% on my side and proves my points.... and u ignoring it and saying its not true.... Lol keep denying truth... i have nothing more to say... and yeah just prove me wrong using MANGA scans and dont deny what it says dont use ur person claims.... thats where u have to start... scans scans...

You provided a scan that tells what everyone already knows. I didn't deny anything.
My points are beyhond the whole 'unlimited chakra pool' thing and i did provide links < That's everything you've been ignoring. I say ignoring because you're not even countering or proving otherwise. You just keep going on about the same thing over and over again.

The matchup itself is just absurd.
100.000 zetus have the military prowess of like what, three hidden villages? And a Jonin/s-level character is supposed to be up to the challenge because he's an edo (like that's a major boost)?
I like to read different opinions but this is matter of common sense and understanding how both characters have been portrayed. Dan would lose everytime no matter how you look at it.
Its not even kage A vs kage B, no, its like Scott Pilgrim vs the world.

 

[Red Slayer]

You provided a scan that tells what everyone already knows. I didn't deny anything.
My points are beyhond the whole 'unlimited chakra pool' thing and i did provide links < That's everything you've been ignoring. I say ignoring because you're not even countering or proving otherwise. You just keep going on about the same thing over and over again.

The matchup itself is just absurd.
100.000 zetus have the military prowess of like what, three hidden villages? And a Jonin/s-level character is supposed to be up to the challenge because he's an edo (like that's a major boost)?
I like to read different opinions but this is matter of common sense and understanding how both characters have been portrayed. Dan would lose everytime no matter how you look at it.
Its not even kage A vs kage B, no, its like Scott Pilgrim vs the world.

Lol yes i provided manga scan which tells truth and yes i thought everyone knew that... but looks like there is somone who doesnt...

what links u provide? u shoewed me how Tobirama and Hashirama made clones... and they said its there limit but there isnt any hint that it was bc of Chakra... Madara already said Edo has unlimited Chakra and it has been many times in Manga too...
if Match up is absurd than why u argue here already 3 days? and Zetsu isnt Jounin Lvl even Chunin lvl shinobi can take out several Zetsu.... yes Beind and Edo is Major Boost Immortal with unlimited Chakra... wow u even say its not boost...
other things what u said is complatly bullsh1st... dunno why u even said them... and Pilgrim thing is pretty funny :/

still NO SCANS STILL NO PROOFS ONLY PERSONAL BIAS CLAIMS....

 

[RicardoA]

Lol yes i provided manga scan which tells truth and yes i thought everyone knew that... but looks like there is somone who doesnt...

Wha? You're just repeating yourself, plus what i wrote, plus a few twists. Jesus xD
It doesn't matter what you provide if you're going to misinterpret your own scans/links and reach fallacious conclusions.

what links u provide? u shoewed me how Tobirama and Hashirama made clones... and they said its there limit but there isnt any hint that it was bc of Chakra...

They. Were. Multitasking.
You really think the guys with Bijuu chakra levels and able to crack a wall from a distance can only create five and two clones at a time, respectively?
I provived a link where Tobirama complained he could only create two clones, while, he was keeping an extremely high level barrier up together with the other Hokages. Can it be more obvious why he couldn't do any better?

Madara already said Edo has unlimited Chakra and it has been many times in Manga too...

Context. C-o-n-t-e-x-t. Take it into account.
Curious thing is that Madara's comment can be considered literal, yet you still don't get it.
Again, unlimited =/= infinite or even just static. It still drops, and if it drops too much an edo can be defenseless.

if Match up is absurd than why u argue here already 3 days?

What does one thing got to do with the other? You adress my posts, i reply.

and Zetsu isnt Jounin Lvl even Chunin lvl shinobi can take out several Zetsu.... yes Beind and Edo is Major Boost Immortal with unlimited Chakra... wow u even say its not boost...
other things what u said is complatly bullsh1st... dunno why u even said them...

This is not 1 Zetsu, its 100.000 and...
...I didn't claim it wasn't a boost, i implied it wasn't a major one.
You kinda lost your focus here >_>

and Pilgrim thing is pretty funny :/

I absolutely enjoyed the movie. I'm so glad I ended up watching it by chance.
Good to know you know about Pilgrim as well = D

still NO SCANS STILL NO PROOFS ONLY PERSONAL BIAS CLAIMS....

There's absolutely no bs in my arguments :|

 

[Red Slayer]

Wha? You're just repeating yourself, plus what i wrote, plus a few twists. Jesus xD
It doesn't matter what you provide if you're going to misinterpret your own scans/links and reach fallacious conclusions.



They. Were. Multitasking.
You really think the guys with Bijuu chakra levels and able to crack a wall from a distance can only create five and two clones at a time, respectively?
I provived a link where Tobirama complained he could only create two clones, while, he was keeping an extremely high level barrier up together with the other Hokages. Can it be more obvious why he couldn't do any better?



Context. C-o-n-t-e-x-t. Take it into account.
Curious thing is that Madara's comment can be considered literal, yet you still don't get it.
Again, unlimited =/= infinite or even just static. It still drops, and if it drops too much an edo can be defenseless.



What does one thing got to do with the other? You adress my posts, i reply.



This is not 1 Zetsu, its 100.000 and...
...I didn't claim it wasn't a boost, i implied it wasn't a major one.
You kinda lost your focus here >_>



I absolutely enjoyed the movie. I'm so glad I ended up watching it by chance.
Good to know you know about Pilgrim as well = D



There's absolutely no bs in my arguments :|

woah man u really got wild here and losing ur mind... starting to talk to much bullsh1t.... its not my fault that u cant follow Manga...
if u dont like something creat ur own manga and leave Naruto alone.... unimited chakra=endless chakra... if u use Jutsu it takes chakra but it wont run out no matter how many jutsu u will use... its rather obvious... all ur bias opinion is useless and no one cares about it... i follow manga and use it as a backup not my own opinions.... about Hshirama and Tobirama problem wasnt chakra prob was barrier.... part 1 not even genin uzumaki naruto made big amount of clone and u think Tobirama 2d Hokage would ran out of chakra if he would made 3 clone while using barrier too? prob was complatly other thing... if u still think that he would ran out of chakra give 100% proof of that or just stop(i dont need ur opinions just manga plss)
Immortality and unlimited chakra is major boost even noob can say... and again dont have PROOFS(using Manga scans) ??? Leave... and dont reply again with ur opinions...

 

[Red Slayer]

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Enhancements and bye....

 

[RicardoA]

woah man u really got wild here and losing ur mind... starting to talk to much bullsh1t.... its not my fault that u cant follow Manga...
if u dont like something creat ur own manga and leave Naruto alone....

And i'm the one going wild and losing my mind... Great.

unimited chakra=endless chakra... if u use Jutsu it takes chakra but it wont run out no matter how many jutsu u will use... its rather obvious... all ur bias opinion is useless and no one cares about it... i follow manga and use it as a backup not my own opinions....

I'm not even stating my opinion Lol The manga made it very clear how strong a Zetsu army is.
Don't be a selective reader, make unbalanced match ups then lash out because you can't have a proper discussion.

about Hshirama and Tobirama problem wasnt chakra prob was barrier....

...and why do you think the barrier was a problem?

part 1 not even genin uzumaki naruto made big amount of clone and u think Tobirama 2d Hokage would ran out of chakra if he would made 3 clone while using barrier too? prob was complatly other thing...

Because the contribution he gave to the barrier is totally equivalent to a couple shadow clones, right...
I didn't claim he would run out of chakra, but it was made pretty clear that that was his limit. Had he made more clones the formation would've been broken and the barrier would pop. What do you think would happen?
Gosh, what's so hard to understand about this?

if u still think that he would ran out of chakra give 100% proof of that or just stop(i dont need ur opinions just manga plss)

Lol i don't even... I never claimed he ran out of chakra at that moment. That instance just goes to show edos have limitations as well, something you keep denying.
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After that specific moment he pretty much ran out of chakra.

Immortality and unlimited chakra is major boost even noob can say... and again dont have PROOFS(using Manga scans) ??? Leave... and dont reply again with ur opinions...

1) I'm nothing using my opinions.
2) I already provived evidence that disproves your opinion.
3) If you don't want me to reply don't quote me. Simple as that.

And please keep calm. Don't need to be rude if no one is agressive to you. Geez >_>

 

[RicardoA]

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Did Dan have any desease?
Is regeneration the problem here?
Can he use Tobirama's Gojō Kibaku Fuda?
Can he use Madara's Tengai Shinsei?
Is Infinite Tsukuyomi in play here?
Was he revived 'beyond his prime'?

I know how ET works and i don't see your point... Not only has the 'enhancements section' got nothing to do with Dan, even if it had, none of those 'advantages' would allow him to win. Some would even make the job easier for the Zetsu army .

 

[Xlad]

Dan Kato gets shitted on.

 

[Red Slayer]

And i'm the one going wild and losing my mind... Great.



I'm not even stating my opinion Lol The manga made it very clear how strong a Zetsu army is.
Don't be a selective reader, make unbalanced match ups then lash out because you can't have a proper discussion.



...and why do you think the barrier was a problem?



Because the contribution he gave to the barrier is totally equivalent to a couple shadow clones, right...
I didn't claim he would run out of chakra, but it was made pretty clear that that was his limit. Had he made more clones the formation would've been broken and the barrier would pop. What do you think would happen?
Gosh, what's so hard to understand about this?



Lol i don't even... I never claimed he ran out of chakra at that moment. That instance just goes to show edos have limitations as well, something you keep denying.
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After that specific moment he pretty much ran out of chakra.



I'm nothing using my opinions.
I already provived evidence that disproves your opinion.
If you don't want me to reply don't quote me. Simple as that.

And please keep calm. Don't need to be rude if no one is agressive to you. Geez >_>

1)hahah yes u are :/

2)Zetsu army is strong but they cant kill something that cant be killed.... Dan Jutsu is Haxed and Edo makes it posible for dan to use it w/o stop...

3) i have no idea why tobirama couldnt use More clone but it Prob defently wasnt Chakra....

4)Parrir would pop maybe who knows but not bc of Chakra...

5)haha Tobirama had Madara Black rods in his Back 2 min ago which destoys Chakra... thats why... now u trying to use Manga wrongly....

6)U provided Nothing but absurd.... Madara already Neged u Sorry....


im not agresive u just cant admit that u are wrong... and i hate this in ppl....

 

[Red Slayer]

Did Dan have any desease?
Is regeneration the problem here?
Can he use Tobirama's Gojō Kibaku Fuda?
Can he use Madara's Tengai Shinsei?
Is Infinite Tsukuyomi in play here?
Was he revived 'beyond his prime'?

I know how ET works and i don't see your point... Not only has the 'enhancements section' got nothing to do with Dan, even if it had, none of those 'advantages' would allow him to win. Some would even make the job easier for the Zetsu army .

and why all this?


no u dont know.... the advantige that he has is unlimited chakra that will make him to win....

 

[RicardoA]

2)Zetsu army is strong but they cant kill something that cant be killed.... Dan Jutsu is Haxed and Edo makes it posible for dan to use it w/o stop...

So, edo Dan > anyone bar Truth Seeking Ball users because he can't be killed?
What happened to the sealing option? I mean, I know Zetsus never shown the ability to seal anything but if you weren't going to give them that option why make this thread?
Seems like there's some bias going on.

3) i have no idea why tobirama couldnt use More clone but it Prob defently wasnt Chakra....

He couldn't make more clones because he was keeping a barrier up. A barrier that can only be created by the four Hokages... There's no other plausible reason. The barrier was hyped, the Hokages were hyped... Don't understand what's so hard to get about this.
They sent the Alliance to do the rest of the work for a reason.

4)Parrir would pop maybe who knows but not bc of Chakra...

You keep missing the point. This goes to show (once again) that edos have their limits as well, something you keep denying because "Edo Shinobi Chakra is ultimate".

5)haha Tobirama had Madara Black rods in his Back 2 min ago which destoys Chakra... thats why... now u trying to use Manga wrongly....

He had two chakra receivers pinned on his back that paralyzed his movements and didn't let him knead chakra. Completely different.

6)U provided Nothing but absurd.... Madara already Neged u Sorry....

K?
Something more absurd than this match up? Doubt it u.u

im not agresive u just cant admit that u are wrong... and i hate this in ppl....

You can play the whole "you're wrong, i'm right" game all you want it won't get you anywhere.
I admit i'm wrong when i'm proven wrong. I do it all the time, that's why i like to hear/read different opinions. You just didn't give any reason that made me change my mind, even made up stuff. Some of your arguments don't even make sense and you complain about me using my opinions when you've been doing that all this time.

and why all this?

You posted a link and emphasized a certain content. None of which were relevant. Those questions were to put that in evidence.

no u dont know.... the advantige that he has is unlimited chakra that will make him to win....

I know 100.000 Zetsus >>>> 10.000 fodders > 3rd Raikage >> Dan. That's not my opinion, that is supported by the manga. There's no arguing against this and that's why i won't admit i'm wrong.
You want people to post 'Dan wins' i get it, but in that case make reasonable match ups.

I say we agree to disagree because clearly we're not getting through to each other.

 

[Red Slayer]

So, edo Dan > anyone bar Truth Seeking Ball users because he can't be killed?
What happened to the sealing option? I mean, I know Zetsus never shown the ability to seal anything but if you weren't going to give them that option why make this thread?
Seems like there's some bias going on.



He couldn't make more clones because he was keeping a barrier up. A barrier that can only be created by the four Hokages... There's no other plausible reason. The barrier was hyped, the Hokages were hyped... Don't understand what's so hard to get about this.
They sent the Alliance to do the rest of the work for a reason.



You keep missing the point. This goes to show (once again) that edos have their limits as well, something you keep denying because "Edo Shinobi Chakra is ultimate".



He had two chakra receivers pinned on his back that paralyzed his movements and didn't let him knead chakra. Completely different.



K?
Something more absurd than this match up? Doubt it u.u



You can play the whole "you're wrong, i'm right" game all you want it won't get you anywhere.
I admit i'm wrong when i'm proven wrong. I do it all the time, that's why i like to hear/read different opinions. You just didn't give any reason that made me change my mind, even made up stuff. Some of your arguments don't even make sense and you complain about me using my opinions when you've been doing that all this time.



You posted a link and emphasized a certain content. None of which were relevant. Those questions were to put that in evidence.



I know 100.000 Zetsus >>>> 10.000 fodders > 3rd Raikage >> Dan. That's not my opinion, that is supported by the manga. There's no arguing against this and that's why i won't admit i'm wrong.
You want people to post 'Dan wins' i get it, but in that case make reasonable match ups.

I say we agree to disagree because clearly we're not getting through to each other.

1)Zetsus Never shown to have sealing Jutsu... Manga doesnt give any so how can i give them.... if u didnt like the Match up u should have to post....

2)i dont really understand what is ur point here.... really .... there is nothing here that has conaction to Ckakra... Tobirama Never said that he couldnt make more clone bc of Chakra nor did Hashirama.... if u have scan where they said it plss show.... if not that point is invalid...

3)Nop edos has no limits... there are chakra is unlimted Like Manga said... keep deny it....show me 1 edo shinobi which ran out of Chakra....its not my pro that u cant understand Manga correctly...

4)ofc lol he couldnt mold chakra he couldnt use it.... only thing he could is to use ftg only once barely not bc he didnt had Chakra.... Black rods disable for Tobirama to use chakra omg is that also really hard to nderstand .... and went against Manga ...already several times...


5) Dont like Match up? Leave... good bye #1


6)Lol u admit that u are wrong OMG the best joke ever... u even Change Manga so many times... use it wrong way... went agaisnt it... and everything was obvious there and easily understanding.... lol... no u just cant admit that u are wrong.... and its ur weakness... u make fan of urself bc of ur stubborn self Manga says Edo has unlimted Chakra... u say No they havent.... Tobirama got several Blacck rods in his back( Black rods practically resticts chakra... user cant mold chakra and use it anymore) Tobirama Barely could use FTG 1 times.... but u ignored Black rod thing and saying that Tobirama didnt had enough Chakra... WTF Yes when u said all this u just make fun of urself... sorry....


7)Lol LOL LOL i made u read enhancements section only bc of 1st sentence... there is written ''Unlike while they were still alive, the reincarnated have unlimited chakra[31]'' (i copy past it) but ofc u ignored that fact and start talking about other things was written there... xD funny at best... again u went against Facts... i already lost my count how many times u did that...


8)stupid A,B,C Logic doenst work in Naruto... only Troll members using it... maybe u are one of them who knows....
Lol sorry but u have no idea what i want.... when i was making thread... i knew 100% that almost everyone would go aginst Manga in this kind of situation and would Say Zetsu stomps... im not surprised at all... i dont care what other will say... when im sure that im right no one can change my opinion... doesnt matter how many ppl will go against me...

i have nothing against this... u can agree or disagree me... its ur opinion and u can have it...(but just for Info Manga disagrees u and agrees me)....


P.S i already proved my points using Manga... u didnt show any proof from manga that agrees u opinion... i wont continiue this Debate unless u show me Facts from Manga.... facts that 100% PROVES UR OPINION..... if u reply with same things again i wont reply and count that im right....