[Discussion] Easy Unbiased Top Ten

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Characters are listed when they were at their strongest minus any edo tensei benefits(Non-edo BM Minato for example). Also, any condition that restricted someones health(Diseased Blind Itachi, Helpless cripple Nagato) are restricted as well. This is all in the favor of fairness and to lower the amount of inevitable excuses.

1)Rikudara-Obvious

2)Juubito-Obvious

3)Hashirama-Obvious

4)BSM Naruto

5)PS Sasuke-There are obvious signs of Sasuke having PS even though it wasn't completely shown. It was made pretty clear that PS Sasuke=BM Naruto but Sasuke lacks sage chakra.

6)Nagato-Above Kabuto because he has no good counter to CT.

7)DSM Kabuto-Above Minato because he has no real way to kill Kabuto and can beat Itachi+EMS Sasuke

8)BM Minato-KCM Minato is Tobirama's equal but BM gives Minato an advantage

9)Tobirama-So strong that he can compete with EMS Madara and has shown to be better than KCM Minato.

10)Itachi-Can't defeat the people above him due to his limited stamina compared to the rest and the fact that everyone above him has counters/experience against his technigues.

Possible Candidates
Kakashi-He is really confusing. First his kamui is fast, then its slow, he can spam it, the can't spam it etc.. Kakashi is honestly the hardest person to rank.

Guy-We need to see 8th gate feats first

Quick Note: It is almost impossible to be completely unbiased. However, I'm trying to use as little bias as I can. Feel free to use your debating skills to change my mind. Some members has done it before.
 

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It's pretty good.

My list:
1. Madara Uchiha
2. Obito Uchiha
3. Hashirama Senju
4. Naruto Uzumaki / Sasuke Uchiha
5. Sasuke Uchiha / Naruto Uzumaki
6. Nagato
7. Kabuto Yakushi
8. Itachi Uchiha (Healthy)
9. Minato Namikaze (Alive, no KCM/BM)
10. Tobirama Senju
 

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Not counting Edos:

1. Madara
2. Obito
3. Hashirama
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Sasuke/Naruto
6. Nagato
7. Kabuto/Killer Bee
8. Killer Bee/Kabuto
9. Itachi/Minato
10. Minato/Itachi
 

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My top 10: (no Edo Tensei)

1:madara
2:eek:bito
3:hashirama
4:naruto
5:sasuke
6:kabuto
7:minato
8:nagato
9:itachi
10:tobirama

With Edo Tensei allowed:
1:madara
2:eek:bito
3:hashirama
4:kabuto
5:eek:rochimaru
6:naruto
7:sasuke
8:minato
9:nagato
10:itachi
 
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Great list, but I would actually switch Tobirama and Itachi. Tobirama was never at any moment shown to be EMS Madara's equal, only Izuna's. Izuna was stated to be on par w/ MS Madara. EMS Madara>Tobirama. That and we haven't received many feats from Tobirama, so I would put him at the tenth spot. And I wouldn't use BM Minato considering that he had no such ability while alive and when he used sage mode he couldn't even maintain it long enough for battle, so I would put him at ninth & I guess move Itachi up to the eighth spot.
 

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Characters are listed when they were at their strongest minus any edo tensei benefits(Non-edo BM Minato for example). Also, any condition that restricted someones health(Diseased Blind Itachi, Helpless cripple Nagato) are restricted as well. This is all in the favor of fairness and to lower the amount of inevitable excuses.

1)Rikudara-Obvious

2)Juubito-Obvious

3)Hashirama-Obvious

4)BSM Naruto

5)PS Sasuke-There are obvious signs of Sasuke having PS even though it wasn't completely shown. It was made pretty clear that PS Sasuke=BM Naruto but Sasuke lacks sage chakra.

6)Nagato-Above Kabuto because he has no good counter to CT.

7)DSM Kabuto-Above Minato because he has no real way to kill Kabuto and can beat Itachi+EMS Sasuke

8)BM Minato-KCM Minato is Tobirama's equal but BM gives Minato an advantage

9)Tobirama-So strong that he can compete with EMS Madara and has shown to be better than KCM Minato.

10)Itachi-Can't defeat the people above him due to his limited stamina compared to the rest and the fact that everyone above him has counters/experience against his technigues.

Possible Candidates
Kakashi-He is really confusing. First his kamui is fast, then its slow, he can spam it, the can't spam it etc.. Kakashi is honestly the hardest person to rank.

Guy-We need to see 8th gate feats first

Quick Note: It is almost impossible to be completely unbiased. However, I'm trying to use as little bias as I can. Feel free to use your debating skills to change my mind. Some members has done it before.
tobirama cannot beat itachi and lacks feats and there is no proof izuna had susano or tsukoyami or amaterasu...


your list is right as for the rest but itachi > tobirama, also i noticed u said itachi cant beat those above him, which is not true because ka was programmed to solo sasuke, also itachi that u listed was partially blind and still had that disease which is why his stamina was low, but u listed a edo minato? u have to make things fair, u have a edo minato but a real itachi...the list as a whole is fine i just think the itachi part is wrong for the simple facts that i mentioned
 

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Tobirama can beat Itachi

Shadow clones counter genjustu, Gojou kibakufuda takes care of Susano'o, amaterasu and tosuka are evaded via FTG.
 
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