[Doton] earth with shinta

[Asmodai]

shikamaru waits for his sensei to come *yawn

I might as well take a nap -.-

 

[Shinta]

*Shinta falls out of a nearby tree with a loud crash. He stands up, brushes himself off and makes his way towards Shikamuru, acting as if nothing has happened.*

Alright... so I'm supposed to be teaching you Doton. Let us start with you telling me what you know of Doton; it's strengths and weaknesses perhaps? Perhaps you could give me your opinion on the Earth element such as how you might use it in battle? (Try not to copy/paste answers from a wikia or something).

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As a sidenote, at your current rank of Jounin, You can learn up to four (4) basic elements and up to A-rank jutsu in those elements. See the

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Thread for more information. I'd advise you not to spam too much for the post count as by simply posting in training and making/participating in threads in the battle arena, should give you enough posts to learn up to s-rank in no time at all.

 

[Asmodai]

*Shinta falls out of a nearby tree with a loud crash. He stands up, brushes himself off and makes his way towards Shikamuru, acting as if nothing has happened.*

Alright... so I'm supposed to be teaching you Doton. Let us start with you telling me what you know of Doton; it's strengths and weaknesses perhaps? Perhaps you could give me your opinion on the Earth element such as how you might use it in battle? (Try not to copy/paste answers from a wikia or something).

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As a sidenote, at your current rank of Jounin, You can learn up to four (4) basic elements and up to A-rank jutsu in those elements. See the

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Thread for more information. I'd advise you not to spam too much for the post count as by simply posting in training and making/participating in threads in the battle arena, should give you enough posts to learn up to s-rank in no time at all.

shikamaru wakes up as he hear loud noise from under the tree, "is that sensei?" shikamaru approaches it is indeed his sensei "err.. are you OK?"

without wasting time his sensei start the training right away, "right, doton... I honestly don't know much..doton is strong against lightning cause it can absorbs it? maybe...that's all I guess I hope you could teach me more, sorry for my lack of knowledge in this. how might use it battle? let's see doton is a solid and hard element I would probably use it for most of my defense from other jutsu.

note: my target for now is sannin rank

 

[Shinta]

*Shinta listens to his young students response with the utmost concentration in order to gain an understanding of the kind of person he was about to teach.*

Right, so you've actually got that a little backwards. Earth is in fact weak to lightning due to the shear destructive force that is lightning. However, Earth is strong against water as it is able to physically block and to some extent absorb the force of the water element.

So a quick revision:

- Fire is strong against Wind and weak to water;
- Wind is strong against Lightning and weak to fire;
- Lightning is strong against Earth and weak against wind;
- Earth is strong against water and weak against lightning, and finally;
- Water is strong against fire and weak against earth.

So lets put that in terms of out RP. If my opponent uses a B-rank earth jutsu against me I have a number of options to counter: I can use a b-rank fire jutsu (which is considered neutral to earth) to counter the earth, or I could use an A-rank water (Which is weak to earth) to counter the earth, or use a C-rank lightning (which is strong against earth) to counter the earth. Any of those counters would simply result in a stalemate between the jutsu.
If I wanted to overpower the same B-rank earth jutsu, I'd have to use one of the following: An A-rank jutsu that is considered neutral to earth (Fire or Wind); an S-rank Water jutsu (two ranks higher is enough to overpower the earth); or a B-rank or greater lightning jutsu (as lightning is strong against earth, the same ranked jutsu would overpower the earth and continue on).

Any questions on what I just explained?

 

[Asmodai]

*Shinta listens to his young students response with the utmost concentration in order to gain an understanding of the kind of person he was about to teach.*

Right, so you've actually got that a little backwards. Earth is in fact weak to lightning due to the shear destructive force that is lightning. However, Earth is strong against water as it is able to physically block and to some extent absorb the force of the water element.

So a quick revision:

- Fire is strong against Wind and weak to water;
- Wind is strong against Lightning and weak to fire;
- Lightning is strong against Earth and weak against wind;
- Earth is strong against water and weak against lightning, and finally;
- Water is strong against fire and weak against earth.

So lets put that in terms of out RP. If my opponent uses a B-rank earth jutsu against me I have a number of options to counter: I can use a b-rank fire jutsu (which is considered neutral to earth) to counter the earth, or I could use an A-rank water (Which is weak to earth) to counter the earth, or use a C-rank lightning (which is strong against earth) to counter the earth. Any of those counters would simply result in a stalemate between the jutsu.
If I wanted to overpower the same B-rank earth jutsu, I'd have to use one of the following: An A-rank jutsu that is considered neutral to earth (Fire or Wind); an S-rank Water jutsu (two ranks higher is enough to overpower the earth); or a B-rank or greater lightning jutsu (as lightning is strong against earth, the same ranked jutsu would overpower the earth and continue on).

Any questions on what I just explained?

shikamaru pay attention to his sensei explanation and nod as sign of he understand it.

"alright, I understand it but it will take some time for me to remember this."

I only have one question, earth is solid and other elements like water, wind, and fire is not solid, I mean if I throw a dirt/earth through fire wouldn't it will phase it? so when this two elements clash wouldn't earth phase through fire? same goes with wind and water.

 

[Shinta]

That is a good point, earth should be able to continue through the fire, smothering it out in the process. However, you need to remember that we are dealing with a point of anime logic and it reality it just works simply because it does work.
However, in the case of wind vs fire; assuming they are the same rank and power, you can think of it like the fire burns the earth completely until only smoke is left. Water is also a solid, in this case I mean tangent as in having a physical form but I get what you mean.
In the case of wind, it doesn't have a physical form but it can produce a physical force, enough to negate the force of an equal ranked water and even earth jutsu.

As we go through each jutsu, we can go more in depth into the results of said jutsu and another elemental jutsu clashing with it. Any of this make sense?

 

[Asmodai]

That is a good point, earth should be able to continue through the fire, smothering it out in the process. However, you need to remember that we are dealing with a point of anime logic and it reality it just works simply because it does work.
However, in the case of wind vs fire; assuming they are the same rank and power, you can think of it like the fire burns the earth completely until only smoke is left. Water is also a solid, in this case I mean tangent as in having a physical form but I get what you mean.
In the case of wind, it doesn't have a physical form but it can produce a physical force, enough to negate the force of an equal ranked water and even earth jutsu.

As we go through each jutsu, we can go more in depth into the results of said jutsu and another elemental jutsu clashing with it. Any of this make sense?

shikamaru raise up his hand

"yes sir, I understand"

 

[Shinta]

Right, so we may as well start with the some earth jutsu...

Spoiler

(Doton No Jutsu) - Earth Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Descripton: Creates small pillars of earth, small tools, and small shields of earth

Earth Release Technique: Is your most basic earth jutsu that allows you to manipulate earth around you to create some useful tools. To achieve this you must channel your earth chakra and direct it into the ground, concentrating it into the desired location, where you will use your chakra control to shape the earth into the intended shape.

For instance, if I wanted to create a small spike that erupts from the ground just in front of you, I would start by sending my chakra into the ground and concentrate on the mental image of what I'm after. Then, when I am ready, I would use my chakra to push up on a section of earth to cause the spike to lift up out of the ground.

*As Shinta explains how he would perform the jutsu, a small section of earth about the size of a baseball-bat with a tapered point at the top, erupts suddenly from the ground one metre in front of Shikamaru.*

So, give that a try and tell me why you think this jutsu is useful?

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For the initial few jutsu, I'd like you to be as detailed as possible when describing what you're doing with your chakra and the effect you're creating from the jutsu. After we get into some of the c-rank jutsu, I'll probably ask you to stop RP-performing the jutsu, unless you otherwise want to.

 

[Asmodai]

Right, so we may as well start with the some earth jutsu...

Spoiler

(Doton No Jutsu) - Earth Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Descripton: Creates small pillars of earth, small tools, and small shields of earth

Earth Release Technique: Is your most basic earth jutsu that allows you to manipulate earth around you to create some useful tools. To achieve this you must channel your earth chakra and direct it into the ground, concentrating it into the desired location, where you will use your chakra control to shape the earth into the intended shape.

For instance, if I wanted to create a small spike that erupts from the ground just in front of you, I would start by sending my chakra into the ground and concentrate on the mental image of what I'm after. Then, when I am ready, I would use my chakra to push up on a section of earth to cause the spike to lift up out of the ground.

*As Shinta explains how he would perform the jutsu, a small section of earth about the size of a baseball-bat with a tapered point at the top, erupts suddenly from the ground one metre in front of Shikamaru.*

So, give that a try and tell me why you think this jutsu is useful?

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For the initial few jutsu, I'd like you to be as detailed as possible when describing what you're doing with your chakra and the effect you're creating from the jutsu. After we get into some of the c-rank jutsu, I'll probably ask you to stop RP-performing the jutsu, unless you otherwise want to.

as shikamaru listen to his sensei explanation suddenly a small section of earth about the size of a baseball-bat with a tapered point at the top, erupts suddenly from the ground one metre in front of Shikamaru.

"what is that? an enemy? wait.. it just you sensei?"
shikamaru ask with a boring face




OK, let's do this"
shikamaru preparing himself.



shikamaru start focusing his chakra through his hand then he touch the ground while channeling his chakra through the ground in front of him while imagining a figure then a figure start to emerge from a ground in a form of a man when the figure start to reach the same height as the original man shikamaru raise his hand from the ground, in front of he can see a man figure standing, that man figure is none other than his sense I himself,
shikamaru take a close look at the figure
"hurm...it's as the same as you sensei"

"OK, this jutsu is really useful because you can make any shape that you want and can be use for defense or attack purpose depending how you shape the jutsu and this jutsu require no handseal so it can be use quickly"

shikamaru explaining while trying to create another figure of his sensei.

 

[Shinta]

Hmm, interesting use, but lets put some technical limits on that jutsu shall we? For one, the earth statue would only the colour and texture of the ground you create it from. Meaning from a distance, it would be pretty obvious that it is an earth statue of some sort. Seconde, a size-restriction... a chair in terms of how wide/deep the object it and nothing taller than the average person (1.7-ish meters).

Also, do you understand the format of the jutsu template? Rather, what range, chakra cost etc are referring to/mean?

 

[Asmodai]

Hmm, interesting use, but lets put some technical limits on that jutsu shall we? For one, the earth statue would only the colour and texture of the ground you create it from. Meaning from a distance, it would be pretty obvious that it is an earth statue of some sort. Seconde, a size-restriction... a chair in terms of how wide/deep the object it and nothing taller than the average person (1.7-ish meters).

Also, do you understand the format of the jutsu template? Rather, what range, chakra cost etc are referring to/mean?

"I don't get it about size restriction, maybe you could tell me more about it?"

shikmaru asking while confuse

"yeah I understand the template,
chakra cost is how many chakraI would use in order to perform the technique.
damage points is how much damage the jutsu dealt.
hurm.. about range could you tell me how far is mid , short -etc

 

[Shinta]

So by size restriction I mean more of a size limit. It's a D-rank jutsu that costs little chakra so obviously you can't create something the size of a Skyscraper. Instead you'd only be able to create something about as tall as you are for example. Does that make sense?

As for the ranges, the way I was taught was as follows: Short-range is 0-5 Meters, Mid-range is 6-15 Meters and Long range is anything greater than that.

 

[Asmodai]

So by size restriction I mean more of a size limit. It's a D-rank jutsu that costs little chakra so obviously you can't create something the size of a Skyscraper. Instead you'd only be able to create something about as tall as you are for example. Does that make sense?

As for the ranges, the way I was taught was as follows: Short-range is 0-5 Meters, Mid-range is 6-15 Meters and Long range is anything greater than that.

"understood, now shall we move to the next tech"

shikamaru asking while smiling

 

[Shinta]

Spoiler

(Doton: Gansetsukon) - Earth Release: Rock Section Cane
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Offense
Range: Short (Mid on throw)
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: This technique allows the user to take a small chunk of rock and turn it into the shape of a staff. The user can then use it as a melee weapon or throw it with pinpoint accuracy at their opponent. A variation of this technique allows the user to create several staffs and launch them at the target, but with less accuracy.

So with this jutsu you simple pick up a rock and channel your earth chakra into it. You then use shape manipulation on the chakra in the rock, so lengthen it into the shape and size of a fighting staff or spear.
If used as a melee weapon it would of course only have the reach of short-range but if thrown, it can strike targets up to mid-range.

So, give it a try and tell me your thoughts on this jutsu; strengths/weaknesses, advantages/disadvantages and general usability in battle.

 

[Asmodai]

Spoiler

(Doton: Gansetsukon) - Earth Release: Rock Section Cane
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Offense
Range: Short (Mid on throw)
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: This technique allows the user to take a small chunk of rock and turn it into the shape of a staff. The user can then use it as a melee weapon or throw it with pinpoint accuracy at their opponent. A variation of this technique allows the user to create several staffs and launch them at the target, but with less accuracy.

So with this jutsu you simple pick up a rock and channel your earth chakra into it. You then use shape manipulation on the chakra in the rock, so lengthen it into the shape and size of a fighting staff or spear.
If used as a melee weapon it would of course only have the reach of short-range but if thrown, it can strike targets up to mid-range.

So, give it a try and tell me your thoughts on this jutsu; strengths/weaknesses, advantages/disadvantages and general usability in battle.

"oh.. it seems this tech can turn rock into weapon"

shikamaru take a chunk of rock from the ground and focuses his chakra into his hand then channel to the rock after that he manipulate the rock and change it into the form of spear. he then throw the spear towards his sensei clone after the clone taking the hit the clone dispersed.

"the strength of this tech is it can cut through C-rank water defense. the weakness is that it can be easily be destroy with D-rank and above lightning tech"

"the advantage of this tech is that it can be use as melee and can also be throw to mid range and it can be use quickly because it require no handseal. the disadvantage is it can easily be counter with lightning jutsu

"usually it would be use as melee weapon but it can also be throw with good accuracy, it will be good if you want to Pierce C-rank water defense jutsu."

shikamaru explaining while trying to make another spear.

 

[Shinta]

It's also a handy jutsu as, even though it is a D-rank, it is much stronger than even chakra infused kunai/swords etc.

In our RP, Ninja tools/weapons and Chakra infused ninja tools/weapons are always beaten by even something as simple as an e-rank jutsu offensive jutsu.

Moving on...

Spoiler

( Doton: Iwa Rendan ) - Earth Release: Rock Barrage
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short – Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra into their arm and then release their chakra creating a ring of rocks that are then flung at the opponent.

A simple jutsu that will require you to apply elemental manipulation on your earth chakra, in order to actually create earth that will form in a ring around your arm. By your will you will suddenly pulse your chakra in order to send the rocks flying at your opponent.

Now if you could give me a response answering the same things you did for the previous jutsu please. ^^

 

[Asmodai]

It's also a handy jutsu as, even though it is a D-rank, it is much stronger than even chakra infused kunai/swords etc.

In our RP, Ninja tools/weapons and Chakra infused ninja tools/weapons are always beaten by even something as simple as an e-rank jutsu offensive jutsu.

Moving on...

Spoiler

( Doton: Iwa Rendan ) - Earth Release: Rock Barrage
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short – Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra into their arm and then release their chakra creating a ring of rocks that are then flung at the opponent.

A simple jutsu that will require you to apply elemental manipulation on your earth chakra, in order to actually create earth that will form in a ring around your arm. By your will you will suddenly pulse your chakra in order to send the rocks flying at your opponent.

Now if you could give me a response answering the same things you did for the previous jutsu please. ^^

"OK understood"
shikamaru response to his sensei tips.

"right for another tech"

shikamaru touch the ground and start to channel his chakra to the ground as he touch the ground. the ground start to form to rise and form a ring around shikamaru arm. he then aim his hand towards his sensei Clone and he release a pulse of chakra around his arm resulting the earth ring flying towards the clone hitting it making the clone disperse.

"the strength of this tech is it can destroy C-rank water defense. the weakness is that it can be easily be destroy with D-rank and above lightning tech.
the advantage of this tech is it require no handseal making it quick to be use the disadvantage of this tech is it can only be shoot to mid range making it useless againts long range opponent"

"this tech usually be use as an attack where the user would shoot the rock towards opponent. but I think it can also be use to defend from incoming attack if the attack specify to body part. example if opponent throw a shuriken towards my head I can raise my arm that is protected with rock to defend against the shuriken and after that I can proceed to shoot the rock. "

 

[Shinta]

Very good, very good. Guess we'll move onto C-rank jutsu now.

Spoiler

(Doton: Ganban Kyu) - Earth Release: Bedrock Coffin
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Mid/Long
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: After performing the Rat hand seal, the user to control multiple sections of rock and move them around their opponent. The user then forms two gigantic sections that crush the opponent.

As well as what I usually get you to answer for jutsu, I want you to start trying to find pictures for the jutsu. You're best bet it to google them and if a page that says Narutopedia comes up, then you can use that... also, it means you can read a little more on the jutsu. Sometimes you can find a clip of the jutsu being performed on youtube as well if you'd like a better understanding of what the jutsu looks like...

Now onto teaching. You'll release your earth chakra (after performing the rat hand seal) into the ground and use it to suddenly push up two (or more) large sections of rock. You can then move these in a limited area to trap and then crush your opponent.

 

[Asmodai]

Very good, very good. Guess we'll move onto C-rank jutsu now.

Spoiler

(Doton: Ganban Kyu) - Earth Release: Bedrock Coffin
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Mid/Long
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: After performing the Rat hand seal, the user to control multiple sections of rock and move them around their opponent. The user then forms two gigantic sections that crush the opponent.

As well as what I usually get you to answer for jutsu, I want you to start trying to find pictures for the jutsu. You're best bet it to google them and if a page that says Narutopedia comes up, then you can use that... also, it means you can read a little more on the jutsu. Sometimes you can find a clip of the jutsu being performed on youtube as well if you'd like a better understanding of what the jutsu looks like...

Now onto teaching. You'll release your earth chakra (after performing the rat hand seal) into the ground and use it to suddenly push up two (or more) large sections of rock. You can then move these in a limited area to trap and then crush your opponent.

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The earth rise up
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then it crushes them.

"OK let's do this."

shikamaru start by performing a rat hanseal then he channel his chakra to the ground. then two large section of rock start to rise up. then shikamaru manipulate the rock to move towards the clone then crush the clone making the clone disperse.

"strength of this tech is can be use to defense againts B-rank and lower water jutsu. weakness of this tech it can easily be destroyed by D-rank and above lightning jutsu. advantage of this tech is you can move the rock at will so you can use it to defense or attack. disadvantage of this tech is the opponent can see the incoming rock making it easy to defend with.

in battle this tech can be use to defend or attacking it can also limit my enemy movement by blocking them. "

 

[Shinta]

Spoiler

(Doton: Moguragakure no Jutsu) – Earth Release: Hiding like a mole technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user changes earth into fine sand by channeling chakra into it, allowing the user to dig through it like a mole. While underground one can sense what is happening on the surface and use the information to launch a surprise attack on the enemy. Once can also hide deep in the ground, escaping to a depth where the enemy cant reach. It also appears that after digging, the ground can be returned to its original state, leaving no trace of where the user entered the earth. While inside the earth, the user cannot make handseals and can only use Earth techniques below C-Rank. If he tries to do a higher ranked technique, he'll disrupt the Hiding like a mole technique and be left crushed.

This jutsu involves you sending your chakra into the ground you want to dig in, to change the ground into a soft sand that you can easily dig through. Your chakra is what is changing the rock into sand but only in the immediate area you want to dig, allowing you to easily tunnel underground with your hands (like actual digging, like a kid in a sand pit-style) to either take your opponent off guard or to escape etc.
This jutsu also allows you to sense what is happening on the surface while you are tunnelling, in order to locate your target more effectively or better avoid them. However in order for you to sense your target, they actually need to be touching the ground ie. if they are riding on a flying-summon or standing on a tree-branch, you won't be able to detect them.

What are some major concerns when using this jutsu in plain sight of your opponent?

Also, here is a D-rank jutsu that is commonly used with this technique:

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(Doton: Shinju Zanshu no Jutsu) - Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user, emerging from the ground below the target area, pulls down the opponent so that only their head is above ground. Unable to move, the opponent can easily be decapitated or tortured.
Note: user must already be underground through the use of (Doton: Moguragakure no Jutsu) – Earth Release: Hiding like a mole technique

Pretty sure Kakashi used this early on in the series... again my memory is pretty dull. However, once you have used Hiding Like a Mole Technique, you will approach your target from beneath and grab their ankles, pulling them into the ground up to their neck, thus trapping them. You them emerge from the ground and do whatever you want to them while they are helplessly trapped in the ground.

So for both of these, well I'm sure you know how I want your replies by now... and answer the question I posed for the Hiding Like a Mole Technique.