[Suggestion] Due to lack of activity, let's merge some sections

[Icelerate]

I think at this point, Naruto Discussion, Versus Colosseum and Naruto Questions can be merged together.

Naruto manga section as well

This one should have been done a long time ago.

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

Naruto manga section as well

 

[V h o]

Why? Seems like more work for no real change.

 

[Icelerate]

Why? Seems like more work for no real change.

To consolidate the forum and create larger discussions.

 

[~Ethereal~]

That would be so cool! I can post about my feelings in the general discussion section. :flowers

 

[Trúth]

Totally forgot versus colosseum existed.

 

[Avani]

Sure so that pointless versus threads take over the rest f the discussions end any remaining chance of proper discussion ever. No thank you.

The section may end up being merged at one point but mixing everything up doesn't create larger discussions just a hotch potch discussion forum where people have more difficulty in finding discussions they may prefer.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Expect a lot of poor logic/bad threads flow into the VS Colosseum.

 

[Icelerate]

Sure so that pointless versus threads take over the rest f the discussions end any remaining chance of proper discussion ever. No thank you.

The section may end up being merged at one point but mixing everything up doesn't create larger discussions just a hotch potch discussion forum where people have more difficulty in finding discussions they may prefer.

Yes because VS threads are more pointless than the other discussions when in reality that isn't the case. VS threads are a small fraction of discussions compared to NDS threads anyway. It would make the job of mods a lot easier as they won't have to worry about threads in the wrong sections.

Although discussions in unique sections can be archived in the sections we have now and then create a brand new unified section. This is to organize the old discussions.

Expect a lot of poor logic/bad threads flow into the VS Colosseum.

I agree but nowadays almost everyone of the VS crew is gone so they might as well merge them from now on.

 

[Avani]

Yes because VS threads are more pointless than the other discussions when in reality that isn't the case. VS threads are a small fraction of discussions compared to NDS threads anyway. It would make the job of mods a lot easier as they won't have to worry about threads in the wrong sections.

Although discussions in unique sections can be archived in the sections we have now and then create a brand new unified section. This is to organize the old discussions.

I agree but nowadays almost everyone of the VS crew is gone so they might as well merge them from now on.

Nope. It doesn't matter how active they are currently( although all these section are still more active than most other manga sections). Each of these section have enough of threads regarding an exclusive type of threads and keeping them in their sections is still neat and more organized. We are not talking about just 10- 20 of posts. Merging them all means having a lot more difficulty in finding any older relevant discussions too.

@ Bold: so you ask for all sections to be merged but you are actually asking us to make one more?

It's like burning the original documents because they take space but saving three photostat copies of each of them for archive purpose. Not to forget you are asking us to kill the most active sections and replace it with a general section for every random thing .

 

[Dannie]

Sure so that pointless versus threads take over the rest f the discussions end any remaining chance of proper discussion ever. No thank you.

The section may end up being merged at one point but mixing everything up doesn't create larger discussions just a hotch potch discussion forum where people have more difficulty in finding discussions they may prefer.

The VS threads aren't pointless just because YOU don't post in them.

 

[Avani]

The VS threads aren't pointless just because YOU don't post in them.

*Insert eye roll here*. It doesn't matter whether I post in them or not. We had suggestions to forbid them completely too. So it's not like everyone wants them around.

I completely agree with you. I absolutely loath any kind of vs threads, I find them the lowest possible and most deplorable form of a discussion topic on NB and I would rather see them disappear in all their forms of the face of NB for ever. VS threads disgust me. However that's just my personal opinion and for some reason many people like making them. Forbidding them is going to make a lot of people unhappy and those threads would regardless be made. Which means we would have to constantly infract, close and trash those threads with a lot of complaints as a result. So yeah that section will remain as it takes in a large portion of those threads. Of course there are still people making such threads in the other Naruto sections, but the amount is way lower and they can't even utter a rightful complaint when we trash those threads as they didn't bother posting it in the right section.

So as much as I hate those threads, that section remains right where it is.

And spam and flame wars? Well if characters originating from the exact same series, with other words the exact same universe/context or whatever you want to call it, meaning they are bound by the exact same rules and thus any disagreement between people originates from a different interpretation of the exact same things, already cause such spam and flame wars, imagine what happens when it considers two characters that are from two completely different contexts? That's a thousands times worse than any regular Naruto vs thread. Superman vs Goku makes Naruto vs Sasuke look like a discussion between two cute loli girl scouts talking about their favorite cookies.

Naruto vs threads between Naruto characters, even if those characters never met, can still in theory be held to a certain degree because everything we know about those characters originates from the exact same context. They are bound by the same rules. However crossovers are not bound by the same rules, they aren't bound by any rules and as a result nearly everything you know about those characters is void. It simply doesn't count. So it's impossible to even hold such discussions, but still people do it. How? They are twisting and distorting everything just so that it fits their own needs. Lets assume that genjutsu works on Luffy. Lets assume Naruto can see Ichigo. Yeah that's easy, but the reality of the situation is that you are making characters up in your head on the spot that do not exist anywhere. Those are not Naruto, Luffy or Ichigo, those are things you created yourself, but try to make it appear like they somehow exist somewhere as otherwise you have nothing to back up your own statements. In the end it comes down to the same principle of playing a game, but making the rules as you see fit while playing it. Making two non-existent characters and give them all the abilities you see fit isn't much different than a crossover.

There are no facts or arguments in discussions like these, people are interpreting everything extremely subjectively to fit their own opinions and because there isn't a common reference point -a shared context- to back up their supposed facts and arguments, they end up in a vicious cycle. The starting point of crossovers is non-existing and made up, while holding the discussions people are making everything up as they see fit and as a result these discussions lead to nowhere other than severe spam and flamewars. Making a thread where people can post anything they want like 'hopnbpougpsougdpsoup' has pretty much the same contents value as a crossover, only they are more sincere considering people acknowledge they are just writing random crap.

Everyone who does not understand this concept of 'context', which is the most fundamental aspect to hold andy kind of VS threads as everything originates from there, should not be participating in them as they simply do not know what they are talking about and because most crossovers do not have such a context, they are nothing more than eyesores filled with spam, thus forbidden.

They are staying in Versus Colosseum. Both sides can be happy and as I said earlier, it's more neat this way. Everyone can find the threads they like faster and find people who like similar threads too.

 

[Dannie]

*Insert eye roll here*.



They are staying in Versus Colosseum.

"I completely agree with you. I absolutely loath any kind of vs threads, I find them the lowest possible and most deplorable form of a discussion topic on NB and I would rather see them disappear in all their forms of the face of NB for ever. VS threads disgust me."

This is pretty funny considering he made the guidelines for the versus section. If he feels that way then why doesn't he just delete the entire section completely?

 

[Avani]

"I completely agree with you. I absolutely loath any kind of vs threads, I find them the lowest possible and most deplorable form of a discussion topic on NB and I would rather see them disappear in all their forms of the face of NB for ever. VS threads disgust me."

This is pretty funny considering he made the guidelines for the versus section. If he feels that way then why doesn't he just delete the entire section completely?

He explained that too. Read the whole post.

 

[Icelerate]

Nope. It doesn't matter how active they are currently( although all these section are still more active than most other manga sections). Each of these section have enough of threads regarding an exclusive type of threads and keeping them in their sections is still neat and more organized. We are not talking about just 10- 20 of posts. Merging them all means having a lot more difficulty in finding any older relevant discussions too.

That's why I suggested the archive system where all the former discussions are archived in the current sections while a new unified section is made to consolidate activity.

I don't see how VS threads are more pointless than pairing threads. Why Sakura, Hinata, etc. suck. Which characters are hot, etc.

VS threads require actual strategic thinking unlike most other threads.

 

[Avani]

Although discussions in unique sections can be archived in the sections we have now and then create a brand new unified section. This is to organize the old discussions.

That's why I suggested the archive system where all the former discussions are archived in the current sections while a new unified section is made to consolidate activity.

I don't see how VS threads are more pointless than pairing threads. Why Sakura, Hinata, etc. suck. Which characters are hot, etc.

VS threads require actual strategic thinking unlike most other threads.

You even don't see that you are asking the admins to kill the most active sections at the NB and at the same time actually asking us to make one more section for where you can throw every random discussion in while keeping the original ones...And some how it makes sense to you.

Can you explain exactly how it will "expand" the section? So far only thing expanding in you suggestion is number of section which will be a jumbled up one and confusing. Ironic seeing you ask us to merge them and then ask us to make one more for everything so that you don't have to choose a section.

Separate sections increase visibility of threads on first pages and makes it easier to look up them.

Pairing threads are mostly deleted apart from one sticky. So are other repetitive/ troll threads. Pairings are a legit discussion many like just like VS threads you like. We are not banning either but organizing them and giving people a place to discuss them.

So exactly what's your point by mentioning them?

 

[Dannie]

We had suggestions to forbid them completely too. So it's not like everyone wants them around.

Yes because clearly the current repetitive threads posted in the NDS everyday are proper discussions and not at all useless like the "versus section".

"Naruto is better than Sasuke"
"Sakura is a bad character"
"Hinata should have been the MC instead of Sakura"
"Sasuke would make a better Jin than Naruto"

I see better discussions posted in the versus colosseum than in the NDS. The NDS is just filled with pathetic baiting and not actual discussions and most of the time purposeful bashing from angry fapboys.

 

[Avani]

Yes because clearly the current repetitive threads posted in the NDS everyday are proper discussions and not at all useless like the "versus section".

"Naruto is better than Sasuke"
"Sakura is a bad character"
"Hinata should have been the MC instead of Sakura"
"Sasuke would make a better Jin than Naruto"

I see better discussions posted in the versus colosseum than in the NDS. The NDS is just filled with pathetic baiting and not actual discussions and most of the time purposeful bashing from angry fapboys.

That's why you have a neat VS section for you instead of having to sift through the threads you just mentioned to find the VS thread that may interest you.

Exactly what are you arguing here for?


@ the OP: Seriously check all the section and take note that you are asking to kill some of the most active sections of NB. Not sure what makes you think it's a good idea.

Even the one who hate the manga and prefer to bash it , still hang in ND only and won't post much in the manga sections they claim to prefer. That's how much it attracts.

 

[Jokule67]

The threads popping up ARE dead and boring. I'm a casual member so I just come on my phone and look at the top of the webpage for threads.

Maybe I should explore more but it would be nice to get better stuff right when I log in.

 

[Dannie]

That's why you have a neat VS section for you instead of having to sift through the threads you just mentioned to find the VS thread that may interest you.

Exactly what are you arguing here for?

Sorry I shouted. I love you. <3

bold: I don't know. It's late and I'm bored.

But I do think the idea should be given some consideration.